Those who are born in a cage yearn for the cage. If you've been treated badly, you fall into a pattern of almost wanting to be treated badly and you tell yourself it's love because it's all you've ever known. I didn't mean to make this sound quite so bleak. But sometimes life really is bleak.
Not sure about that, dappled. In my own life, I knew how I did NOT want to be treated coz of my upbringing.
I read something last night about how people with low self-esteem ASK others to treat them well - yeah right, that'd work!! However, people with high self-esteen SHOW other people that they will not tolerate being treated badly.
I can only liken this to being in the pub with the lads. I do not tolerate crude jokes in my presence - which they all respect. However, some other girls are treated like scum in the same company - and put up with it!!
Just my thoughts ....
Anyhow, I think a lot of women think they love these bullies but if they made a list of what they love and what they don't love about them, I bet the don't love side would be longer. You can't truly love someone if you don't actually like them!
Yeah, I agree, but I think we all know people who've stayed in an abusive relationship longer than they should and always thought the other person would change even though they know full well that they won't. Also people who move from one relationship like this to another, or people who do settle down with a nice person and then find something missing or boring. I don't think anyone (apart from masochists) consciously seeks someone to hurt them, but there does often seem to be an unconscious pattern where some people seek out what they are familiar with or - like you said - get what they think they deserve.
I've been in a case like this. I thought it was a rough patch and he'd go back to normal so I stuck around. Then I realized he was on his best behavior the first 2 months and this was his normal self.
We love who they were and have trouble realizing that what we loved is gone.
We cannot, that is why I ditched my fuckn horrible parents when I was fourteen, and found my wonderful and loving husband for 38 years and still am in love with him to this day.
I think its because we can still see things about them that we like, and we know that deep down they are good people. That can make the bad stuff they do seem ok.
Because if it wasnt ok, it would be your fault; you hope that only his good charactoristics will come through when youre with him so you can prove to yourself that if you can make it work youre successful and if you cant then youre weak.
I read something last night about how people with low self-esteem ASK others to treat them well - yeah right, that'd work!! However, people with high self-esteen SHOW other people that they will not tolerate being treated badly.
I can only liken this to being in the pub with the lads. I do not tolerate crude jokes in my presence - which they all respect. However, some other girls are treated like scum in the same company - and put up with it!!
Just my thoughts ....
Anyhow, I think a lot of women think they love these bullies but if they made a list of what they love and what they don't love about them, I bet the don't love side would be longer. You can't truly love someone if you don't actually like them!
People can be so complex.
We love who they were and have trouble realizing that what we loved is gone.
Because if it wasnt ok, it would be your fault; you hope that only his good charactoristics will come through when youre with him so you can prove to yourself that if you can make it work youre successful and if you cant then youre weak.