Do you think that people that say a man should never hit a woman, even if she is abusive to the man are complete scum? I have just had two people tell me that if a man hits a woman in any situation, even when he is being abused, he is a waste of space, regardless of the fact that women have been let off with murder for being abused, yet males that retaliate to the abuse are wastes of space?
I find it irritating that people will even say "just restrain her", yet will not do that when they are in a fight with a male that is physically weaker than them. Same logic. If we are to not retaliate with violence to women, then if a man weaker than you smacks you on the face, you are only allowed to restrain him at the most, that's all.
Ofcourse, to these manginas it is just different...Why? Because she's a woman.
IIN to find these people just as (to put it lightly in my opinion) scum?
I find it irritating that people will even say "just restrain her", yet will not do that when they are in a fight with a male that is physically weaker than them. Same logic. If we are to not retaliate with violence to women, then if a man weaker than you smacks you on the face, you are only allowed to restrain him at the most, that's all.
Ofcourse, to these manginas it is just different...Why? Because she's a woman.
IIN to find these people just as (to put it lightly in my opinion) scum?
I don't think a woman should hit a man either (I'm not rabid about it, despite having a great-grandfather who was killed by his wife and two friends who were scared for their lives by their partners).
Forget gender. If you threaten your partner, you're in the wrong. I think you should be treated the same way, regardless of gender. Man doing it, woman doing it, same sentence because it's the same thing.
Side note: when I say "ignorance", I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about everything in life.
Who cares what two people think or say? It's no biggie, really. Most of the time people speak with themselves in mind. If these two men think that, then let them. It's just their opinion, regardless if it's right/worng. It doesn't change anything.
No one should hit anyone unless it's absolutely necessary. In that case it's not beating someone, it's self-defense. Too bad humans over-think life and blow things into seismic proportions. A lot of times people fight and call it self-defense when in all truth they just want to brawl.
I wonder if that makes any sense. :\
There is no point of getting violent over something stupid. If you feel as if your anger is taking over, then just try walking away from the situation and solve it later when you are more calm and less overwelmed from whatever happened. People just never think about the fact that they ae overwelmed with the stress and anger and they just lash out at who ever is arguing with them. Just talk about it calmly come on... common sense people!
We need more people who can use logic to balance out their emotions. Is that going to happen, ever? I wouldn't bet on it... Too many people think about themselves too often, man or woman. Then, I wonder how much of it is true? If whatever percentage goes unreported, how do we know how much domestic violence affects people's lives?
"Research conducted by Murray A. Straus of the University of New Hampshire and Richard J. Gelles of the University of Rhode Island, both veterans of extensive research into family violence, found that approximately four million people each year are victims of some form of domestic assault, ranging from minor threats and thrown objects to severe beatings."
I don't know.. If someone throws an object at me, I'm not going bite their nose off or punch their lights out. If someone threatens me, I'm sure I would be able to tell if it's a bluff or not. If, it seems serious I would report it to the police. That's what every man/woman should do. But sometimes the authorities cannot protect you, so you just have to be more careful with who you affiliate yourself with. :\
The furthest I'll go, is dealing with people at my future bakery; my employees and my customers. I'm not planning on having a huge bakery and I plan to make sure that my employees don't have a criminal record and have a good attitude during the interview. I'm not going to hire some idiot just because I feel sorry for them. Yep that seems fine enough for me... plus dealing with family and friends that aren't that stupid too.
I do know something can still happen to anyone and me even if I try to ignore but I'm not going to make the situation any worse than it has to myself... I know when there is a will there is a way. :)
Although I did have a short termed gig as a club bouncer. And these skanks get wasted and then try to hit you with a stiletto heels or a purse. Well, luckily I am big enough to restrain most of the people, and I don't think my boss would like me to hit patrons.
But I think if someone would pull a knife or a gun on me I'd beat them into bloody pulp regardless of their sex.
Dear Horrible Person,
"Female domestic violence is nearly half-" BULLSHIT. The leading cause for injury for women is spousal violence. The leading cause for injury among men is accidents. 85% of domestic violence victims are WOMEN. One third of female homicide victims were killed by their spouse.
Domestic violence is one of the most under-reported crimes regardless of gender. DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS HORRIBLE REGARDLESS OF GENDER. Don't give us that "people think it's ok for women to hurt men" bullshit. The person that you care about (whether it be a man or woman) should not abuse you.
Oh Horrible Person I hoped that you were a person that actually cared about domestic violence. But alas you simply don't care about the abused women or men do you? I cannot help but see that you have a message under all this misinformation and that message is a anti-woman.
It makes a certain amount of sense for it to be taboo for men to hit women, but I really think that it should be taboo for anybody to hit anybody. I do think it's ok for a man to hit a woman in self defence.
And knowing the reasons why some women have been "let off" with murder for simply "being abused", how about the men that have been "let off" with murder for reasons of "passion" or for (my favorite) being too hyped up on coke and twinkies. Or the men that have gotten away with murder by "knowing people", paying cops off, by being in a gang, by far and wide men get away with murder like it's going out of style. But that's easy not to know if you don't study this stuff and if you rely on the news as your only source of factual information or the happenings of your surroundings. Do you have any idea how many cases that I have seen that have almost made me smack the shit out of myself out of amazement that it DIDN'T make the news?
I had a guy here a few weeks ago tell me that Casey Anthony got "let off" for murder because she cried, when in reality she was let off for murder because the state tried to charge her with 1st degree murder and no jury in their right mind would condemn anyone to death based off of circumstantial evidence, but he didn't know that, he cited the example anyway!
For fuck's sake, please don't use examples from a system that you obviously don't understand! I told him that and I'm telling you that, there is so much more to the CJ system than he or you even acknowledges, for fuck's sake, please study it before citing cases! It's not as simple as people think it is! Watching Law and Order and CSI really doesn't teach you anymore about law than Grey's Anatomy would teach me about how to perform surgery!
And as for men hitting women or women hitting men, we shouldn't hit each other, period. I don't find it wrong of a man to walk away from a fight, or a woman, for that matter. Don't talk to people who feel that anyone should stand around and let themselves have the shit beat out of them.
I don't quite like the rule about hitting minors (unless it's a child). This girl who insulted me is 2 years younger and I want to pop her teeth out. Well she's almost 18 so I can hit her now and not get in as much trouble... :)
if a woman thinks she could hurt me with some false sense of security then she'd be in for a nasty surprise.
There ARE men who don't fight back, who get abused and bruised by their women.
Why? Because they know two things
1) If he fights back he may do more damage to her than she did to him
2) If he fights back, society - and often the law - will automatically take her side even if she's the abuser.
Ah, edit... you're not calling the men scum. You're saying that the people who bash the men for self-defense are the scum.
You know I like that mentality.
I think you and I are on a similar page perhaps.
Although personally I prefer the idea of fixing this at the root... which is to say, having the abusive women STOP being abusive.
If they stopped trying to act like it's OK to beat up men cos the men aren't allowed to hit back... then this wouldn't be a problem.
(btw I'm a woman speaking)
It isn't going to do much damage to him? your whole logic here is that women are not dangerous at all. Ofcourse she can do damage to him. The only way they can't do damage to him is if they stop them ffrom doing it, which they aren't allowed to do, so the thing that makes them able to deal with the physical violence isn't allowed, and so they are easily hurt.
Well, you don't know what a real man is. You clearly are identifying a "real man" with what you want a man to be, a pushover to women. Since when did a man become a "real man" when he just puts up with a woman assaulting him? I could turn around and say the same "A real woman would never hit a man, even if he is assaulting her".
Your whole logic here is that men can't suffer from domestiv violence, and the only domestic violence they can suffer from is physical, which is very small, when in fact men can suffer form physical and mental domestic violence just as much as women can.
Your whole logic here is that it is acceptable to hit someone stronger than you, because they won't hit you back, it is wrong for them to hit you back. So next time someone weaker than you starts beating the crap out of you, just walk away, you have no right to defend yourself, according to your logic.
No one should hit anyone in the first place under normal circumstances, and just because you got hit it doesn't obligate you to hit back. You have the right to use appropriate force if you feel you need to, not excessive force-it's a right though, not an obligation. What's appropriate would vary with the parties involved, the severity of the attack, any weapons involved and so on. Sometimes, you can just walk away, sometimes all that is called for is restraint, sometimes you have to fight..... You have to use proper judgement for the situation at hand.
It's best to walk away and call the police (if you so desire), if that's feasible, let the police deal with it, and you remain 100% in the right, let the other party go to jail for hitting you, don't get into a brawl if it's avoidable. That goes for male/male, male/female, midget/cage fighter....whatever, whoever.