Hi everyone, I'm just here to ask what you think I should do in my situation.
I'm a Christian man from America and I raised my son(15) with Christian values but he's always been a little feminine.
One time I even drove past his school when I knew he would be outside having lunchbreak and I saw him hold hands with another boy..
I asked him about this when he came home and he just evaded the question and went to his room.
Homosexuality is a sin and I don't want my son to go to hell.
What did I do to deserve this?
I pray every night and I go to church at least once a week!
His mother and I are thinking of sending him to Christian summer camp, maybe they can help him?
I'm a Christian man from America and I raised my son(15) with Christian values but he's always been a little feminine.
One time I even drove past his school when I knew he would be outside having lunchbreak and I saw him hold hands with another boy..
I asked him about this when he came home and he just evaded the question and went to his room.
Homosexuality is a sin and I don't want my son to go to hell.
What did I do to deserve this?
I pray every night and I go to church at least once a week!
His mother and I are thinking of sending him to Christian summer camp, maybe they can help him?
And if my husband has a problem with me for leaving the church, he can go screw himself.
No matter how my kids live their lives, I hope that, when I am a parent, I will love them all the same. None of us are perfect, NONE of us. That same book in the bible advises against things that even the BEST Christians do on a REGULAR BASIS. If we all decided to start rejecting the sinners, the church would be empty, and heaven would be so too.
Love your son. Support him. Don't pray for him to be straight, pray for him to have a happy life. This is probably a very confusing time for your son and I am sure he is as distressed as you are.
You are a sinner, you have done things that were unfavorable in the eyes of Heavenly Father, yet he still stood beside you and still loved and supported you because you were his son. He never sent you away, and he was never ashamed of you. Be there for your son, as Heavenly Father has for you.
You should love your son regardless of his sexuality, and do your best to make him comfortable and happy. If he is gay, then there's going to be a lot of cruel and ignorant people that will make him hate himself for it, his own father shouldn't be one of them.
Let him know that you're proud of him no matter what, and he'll come out in his own time if he is gay.
And besides, to discriminate against someone is almost always an act of hate anyway. If you hate someone's sexuality, religion or ethnic/cultural background, you might as well hate that person.
If OP really is not a troll, then OP is saying that he is worried that his son is gay because he will go to hell, and OP doesn't think he deserves for his son to be gay. OP isn't just saying he doesn't approve of his son holding another boy's hand, he's saying that he doesn't think he deserves to have a gay kid- which is a terrible thing to think.
People aren't born with sex drives at all, i know because i studied sexual development, something you clearly did not.
As for animals, does this gay animal only screw the same sex all it's life? Aka actually gay? Not one, ever, anywhere.
And for the animal, how would know? There are billions of species, many of which are unkown to scientists currently, and through all those animals, how can you be sure that not a single one has ever had sexual intercourse with only the same sex?
Homosexuality is neither immoral nor a disease. Neither is it something you can treat or simply get rid of by talking him into liking girls.
If your son is gay, then this is the way he is and this is the way you should accept and love him as a parent.
If your god was as loving and caring as you believe him to be, he would love your son no matter what and so should you.
I'm sure you could find a priest to help him.
You can't choose whether or not you're born Christian, but you can choose not to be a bigot.
You can have a happy gay son or a repressed sad straight one who ends up gay anyway.
Do that for him. One day he will hold you in his arms and thank you for the good you've done! Let him grow in a positive environment! Remember, he did not choose you! You made him, and you have a duty to do right by him. He did not choose to be 'who is his'; no school, no book, no seminar, no pastor, no camp, NO one will change that.
I can tell you from experience, my caregivers' constant belittling, disapproval, and malicious verbal assaults on my being, my talents, and my value has put me in a dark place, where I cannot find love or peace in anything. And I'm not even gay.
but i do believe in equal rights, and people like you make me sick.. what makes gay people any less of a human being becuase of how they were born.
I went to a catholic school and was taught about religion, so im not someone who doesnt know what im talking about.
It teaches us to love one another for who we are and treat others how you would like to be treated.
Think about how hard it would be for your son to come out and say to you that he is gay.. knowing you will be disapointed in him and 'believe' he will go to hell, even though he has done nothing wrong.
He will live in shame and maybe if it gets so bad, he might one day kill himself.. seeing as he is going to hell anyway in your eyes..
Maybe this is a life lesson for you to accept 'gays' for who they are.. and all it took was your son to be gay for you to finally understand, they are just like you and i.
(just a note: i am a straight male)
Sorry if I offended at all.
Apparently you had a son. And since he already knows how you feel about gays he has to hide it from you.
they have the freedom to choose. Free will matters more than any other factor
but i do agree "praying it away" is dumb. pray for yourself instead to gain the wisdom to handle whatever troubles you have
tho i've seen a lot less of that of late. i wonder if they changed the rules in here in deleting people for disagreeing?
He's your son. You are supposed to support him no matter what. No wonder he avoided the question. He's probably scared of you. And he shouldn't be.
And I am a Christian. GAY PEOPLE CAN BE CHRISTIANS!!! "Christians" like you annoy the piss outta me. Get over it. If he's gay, then let him be gay. It's not his choice, but if he wants to embrace it, let him. He'll be happier that way instead of trying to hide it and live a lie.
And tommythecat, if you read, God gave that law to the Levites in the Bible in Leviticus. The purpose was to give the dying tribe another chance. He did it as a test of faith. Plus, he never said "homosexual" he said "Abusers", which is rape.
Get your facts right, k?
No actually, you're supposed to be excommunicated for it. God actually KILLED people who were gay.
Mr poof, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul
By the way, there is no god to kill anybody, so please insult someone else AFTER you learn a thing or two about common sense.
"But i do know the story of sodom from the bible"
It's over, you lost. I beat your whole argument with a single sentence.
To prove that you are wrong. And since when do you have to be christian to be educated or read a book!
That would make sense if it was a "claim" or "opinion", it's not, it's a proven fact.
What you were saying wasn't correct and i corrected you, yes i know the bible, yes i read.
And if you never have sex ever, your not really anything.
Ofcourse it's possible for a being that created and controls everything. He's god, he can do anything, including being all knowing, he created "knowing"!
The biggest contradiction is the statement that you just made, you actually think that if he existed your "human logic" could comprehend if he could be all knowing or not.
You are retarded.
Ofcourse he could be Omnipotent, he created omnipotence.
Think about it really hard, and you'll get it.
Also your bible has nothing in it against gay people... so your bigotry is yours alone, not your god's.
but is it really confirmed or did he admit it??
in my case, my parents think that I'm gay because of some of my actions, but swear to God i'm really not...
and maybe you should consider that thing too.
Being gay is also NOT a choice, it is genetic. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being gay. I would ask you to see a gay couple and how happy and loving they can be, do you really think God is against true love, regardless of who it is with?
Why don't you talk to your son about it before you ask random strangers on the Internet.
If he is your son , you shouldn't try to change him , despite your beliefs. Just try and support him. and another thing is (and don't get mad at me for saying this) you can't be so close-minded with your beliefs . A righteous god would never condemn someone for who they love.
As a Christian, you believe that God made everything, and man came from God. Gays are born gay, and you say he's always been feminine so im sure it was not a choice he made. So, God made your son gay, and yet this is a sin? Why would he be against his own creations? God is about LOVE, regardless of orientation. I hope you're trolling, if not, then I feel bad for you that you still have this mentality. You need to accept your son for who he is, and a Christian summer camp will make the situation worse if anything.
What's the use, your cognitive empathy is rock bottom and you probably don't understand any of this. I and no one in here can stop you..
Look, from a Christian's point of view I would say they would say pray he'll change. If your God doesn't want him to be homosexual, let him prove it and change your son. Give your son a chance too because it might have been something else.
Please, dear God, let this poor child's life not be ruined.
Hope I could help.
I agree tho, talk to him. Don't just ship him off somewhere. That's the worst thing to do to a child (teen).
Don't "accept" his gay choice, but still accept him as your son. God always has a plan, that includes using this part of his life to maybe teach him something that, in the end, will work for God.
I'll be praying for you and your son. Keep praying for him as well. Matthew 21:22, "You can pray for anything, and if you have faith, you will receive it" It doesn't say "you might receive it" or "you can pray for anything, but sometimes it might be no" ASK, and in FAITH, you WILL receive it.
What's wrong with sticking your dick inside a guy's butthole over a girl's? The Bible is incredibly biased; it's obvious it was not made by a God, but came from a man's personal imagination.
In fact, unless you've caught your son actually in penetration with another man, or worshiping a false idol, your son is more innocent than you are. Children are forgiven sin up to 20. it is why the armies of Israel started their counts from 20-55. And all below 20 were considered as women.
As much as you try to be a good Christian, there are those who think you will go to hell for the life that you have lived. If you have ever been worried about money. Ever eaten bologna, or a meat/poultry of dubious origin. If you have ever tasted turtle/squirrel/snake/aligator or other assorted critter. If you have had sex before marriage, or for purposes besides reproduction. All of those (again numerous others I won't list) make you a sinner.
How does the saying go? Thou shalt not judge lest ye yourself be judged? He's your son. Regardless of who he is as person, he will always be your son. Accept him for whom he is, so the lord can accept you as patient and non-judgemental. If you absolutely have to worry about your son, let the lord deal with him when the time comes and leave it at that.
A... chat about girls
B.... when out say she look nice
C.... get him some porn
D.... or do what id do....
whether gay or not your son will always be your son, don't try to get truth out of him let him come out on is own terms. i hope that's not the case because if it is it's going to a tough journey for him in life the media wants to potray this image where being gay is normal and accepted and that's not the case in real life, people are in favour of gay on the outside but few actually say what they really feel about it which is a shame. a child raised by two mums or two dads what the hell is that i feel sorry for those kids... pray about it and goodluck
http://news.yahoo.com/why-gay-parents-may-best-parents-131902676.html
A) you will try to change him and won't accept him for who he is
B) because of your religious views your going to tell him its a sin and that he's going to hell
I am sorry but I do not believe in god. And if god was real, they should accept people for who they are and not make up all these discriminating rules.
As for your son i would seek professional Christain counceling. It is a very hard time for everyone and it needs an objective perspective. Someone to guide you through.
A final note....No one goes to hell for being Gay. We all go to Hell for being sinners. Someone being gay is no greater a sin than me telling a lie. A sin is a sin. So really unless you find salvation through a personal relationship with God by asking Him in your heart ....your in the same boat as him. Just saying.
I used to be a christian but I've since embraced Atheism, Christianity is a very controversial religion, how can a god who loves everyone and i mean everyone specially condemns selected people for being who they are.
BOTH.
I'll suggest a few more:
1.) Get him a swimwear calendar (often bundled with magazines) - He must learn to appreciate female beauty.
2.) Change his school - He may just have feelings for one particular friend. Separate them.
3.) Maybe he need a tomboy girlfriend - As there are boys that act girlish, there are also girls that act boyish.
4.) Ignore the hate - This site is overrun by gays and those that support them. You'll probably get many useless and/or hateful comments from those people.
A parent should try to lead his child down the right path before gay tendencies can take over.
If his son is already gay, than what you say might be true, but this is about correcting his son's behaviour while he's still in the unsure phase, before it's too late.