Why do girls think their lives are so hard compared to the lives men live? I have heard it so many times, the "You don't know what it's like to a be a woman, if you were one for a day, you'd realize how hard we have it". I'm sick of all these girls patting themselves on the back for nothing. They are convinced their lives are the hardest out of everything, and it's just pathetic.
Have you noticed this?
Have you noticed this?
We're expected to take sexual harassment as a compliment. We're objectified. Our value is based on our appearance first not our work, not our morals, and not our thoughts. There is no male version of the word "slut." If we want childcare we're "selfish." If a man walks away from pregnancy he's a jerk. If a woman walks away from pregnancy she's a "murderer." If we want to get married we're "man trappers." If we don't we're "unnatural." If we enjoy sex we're "nymphos." If we don't we're "frigid." If we want to be mothers we're "quitters." The second we stand up for ourselves we're "bitches." And if we don't we're "weak."
And nobody wants to be any of that.
What you class as sexual harrassment has happened to me countless times by women, involving physical sexual assault (Not a major one), and most of the times people seen it. If sexual harrassment to men isn't taken seriously, why should it be for women?
You are not paid less unless you do less time or work less or work easier times. The wage-gap has been talked about many times, and if you look it up, you'll see that there isn't a pay gap unless it's fair. Yes, "some" pay women less unfairly, but not as much as women like to think to boost their "poor women" image.
Ugh. WOmen, you do my head in. Women are not valued in the workforce by their appearance, they are valued more on their work. Your value as "partners" in relationships are based with appearance, not the workplace.
Yeah. And if a man walks away from pregnancy, he can be pulled back to pay for it. If a woman walks away from pregnancy, she's a murderer...Yet that's it, her responsibility is over. So men get more punishment by walking away than women do for "Murder".
What? The mearriage thing is just. Ugh. I can't go on on this site much longer, this is terrible. You assume that men do this from whgat you hear from feminist propaganda.
Ugh.
No, the majority of men don't see women as any of these things if they do these things.
The thumbs up just shows how fucking stupid this community is. They constantly want to fucking hear how bad their lives are so they can pat themselves on the back.
The OECD discovered the gender gap is a result of discrimination. It's funny that you said "poor women image" because 2/3 of adults in poverty are women.
Hey! I've been harassed too. We're harassment buddies! The goal is to get rid of sexual harassment not make it even.
You say we're not judged by our appearance yet Olympic champion Liesel Jones was called fat in a respectable newspaper. Because you know 3 gold medals don't matter. Sarah Robles, the highest ranked weight lifter in all of America, lives in poverty because she can't get any sponsors, she doesn't look good in a bikini. Or how about in the Avengers interviews Scarlet Johannson (the only female cast member) was the only one who got questions about her underwear. Or how about the fact that Elena Kagan is known as the ugly one in the court. Don't forget Hillary Clinton is ridiculed on news networks for wearing pantsuits.
The fact that you accused me of propaganda is hilarious since you only used one statistic. And that statistic was grossly wrong. Sorry that we can't all fit the "Uncle Tom" ideal that you want us to. Some women might say "well that's just the way it is." Some women might say standing in shit is better than eating shit. But some women don't want any shit at all.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/sep/05/men-victims-domestic-violence
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12126783
Not only is it 40%, but males are far less likely to be believed of their domestic abuse than women, so the percentage is most likely higher than 40%.
As for the 1 in three homocides are in domestic abuse, I would like to see links for that.
Feminism is deep within our society, so it is obvious some, if not most of these things will state how women are unfairly paid, but I would like a link to where these statistics are shown.
Not only that, but women are also paid equal in areas in which they are of less use, such as the military. They get paid equal regardless of the fact that they are not risking nearly as much as the male soldiers do due to not being put in the same positions of danger as the male soldiers.
2/3 of adults in poverty are women. That can be because of many reasons, not descrimination. But hey, going by your same logic, 2/3 homeless people are males. Ofcourse, that is "Their" fault, right? But when it comes to women in pverty, it's everyone elses fault, right?
Boohoo. Celebrities and famous people are called things all the time, and weight is something respectable papers comment on with most celebrities when they're either overweight or become more in shape. For example - arnold schwarzenegger. He became govenor of california and became fat, that was in the news aswell, so for the love of God, stop acting like these things only happen to women, because they don't. This happens to most known celebrities when something in their image changes dramaticaly, and if it didn't happen to women, then it would be that they are the only group it doesn't happen to. This is the problem I have with females. If something happens to them, it only happens to them, according to them.
Where did that last part come from? Did any respectable papaers say "she didn't look good in a bikini, which is why we didn't sponser her" or was that something "you" assumed the reason to be? If so, show me a link to it.
The Scarlette thing I just looked up, and it seems that "she" brought it up, so don't blame society for that. And no, it wasn't "What type of underwear she was wearing" it was that she wore no underwear because the costumes were extremely hot (as she said and as it states). Again, "she" brought it up.
So what you're trying to state here is that women alone are ridiculed for their changes in appearance and their attire? Yeah, because that neeeeever happens to males. Your points are typical, because as I stated before, if it happens to women, it doesn't matter if it happens to others, it happens to women, therfor they are the only ones it happens to.
Yeah, and? Men are constantly questioned about their sexuality, such as Tom Cruise. Once again, women aren't the only ones that go through these things, and simply because it also happens to women doesn't mean it only happens to women.
It was grossly wrong? Links showed otherwise.
No, not hilarious, quite sad, actually.
Oh, well poor little princesses. Sorry, love, but your gender has to stand in the shit along side with the others that have to, and if women have a problem about it, don't go in to a position that runs the risk of it. Sick of women like you. You wonder why men call you weak and don't think it's good for them to be in positions of power, it's because of things like this. If something happens to the female gender, it "only" happens to them, even when reality shows that men suffer from it aswell, and yet, you can't stop complaining about it, where as males accept that it happens because they are icons, and having people talk about you is involved in being an icon.
http://www.dvrc-or.org/domestic/violence/resources/C61/
First off I will acknowledge that your sources are from the UK which is ranked higher than than the US (where I'm from) on the Global Gender Gap Index. So give that there's more gender equality over there.
Don't bring up military positions because women are taking that to the supreme court. Women WANT the option to fight on the frontlines. Being part of the infantry is a job and it's unconstitutional to deny someone a career based on gender. I really hate it when people think that female soldiers don't want to be on the frontline when in reality it's a bunch of old politicians that think "male soldiers will be sad if they see a woman die."
Olympians don't fall under "celebrities" I know Sarah Robles sure doesn't. Arnold's weight gain was noticeable because he was a body builder. And he's pretty fucking famous, people would notice any change about him. Liesel Jones isn't an actress and she isn't fat. She's in olympian shape, she was called fat because she wasn't skinny. Sarah Robels looks exactly what a weightlifter is supposed to look like. Yes men get called fat too. We've been calling people fat since the word "fat" was created. But who's more likely to get cosmetic surgery or get an eating disorder because even they believe their self worth in their appearance? It's pretty sad actually, the second girls reach puberty an eating disorder is a very real possibility.
Men are also judged by their appearance but not as harshly as women. I invite you to tell me men are judged harsher on their looks.
"and if women have a problem about it, don't go in to a position that runs the risk of it"
Was that an "asking for it remark?" Wow.
And then your last paragraph is completely sexist. I don't even know how to respond to it. It's like you write an essay trying to convince me women aren't judged and they're welcome in the world of men... and then you conclude it with calling women weak and saying we don't belong in positions of power. You're a woman hater. You can try to hide it but you're mask slipped at the and.
Anyway, your link is past it's time, it clearly states this was taken from "Bureau of Justice Statistics Crime Data Brief, Intimate Partner Violence, 1993-2001, February 2003", where as the link I shared was on 2010.
Actually, that is a reason, and the fact that you don't realize that astounds me. Men will usually jump in to defend women that are in trouble, it happens all the time. Not only that, women shouldn't be in those front lines because of their capability. Unless women can train as much as the male soldiers (Less is expected of them to become soldiers), then they should get in the same positions, but why should soldiers risk their lives to make sure a woman gets equality? "Fuck the safety of those soldiers that need soldiers just as capable as them to protect them, this woman wants equality, male health doesn't even measure to that"
If women can do the "same" as what's expected for men, as in both physical and mental training, then she should be in the same position as males, if not, she shouldn't be. Women don't need to do nearly as much as men need to do to be enrolled in the army.
And why don't they fall under celebrities? Either way, I clearly stated that if someone is an "icon" this would happen, not just a celebrity, but let's see ift hat is mentioned in this paragraph.
Ok, what about Mike Tyson, the boxer? It was also said he was getting fatter.
I like how you just sit there and say "No,no,no that doesn't count, only this type counts". It is a perfect example of what my reply said at the end. It doesn't matter if they're celebrities or athletes, they're both famous, they're both known, and they're both icons.
So let me get this straight. You just simply implied that both people get called fat, ever since the word was created, then go on to imply that even though everyone gets called fat, it's worse for women? If women can't handle little insults or observations like that, then that's their faults. Sorry, but just because you're women doesn't mean you don't and won't get the same insults and observations thrown your way. This is exactly what I'm on about, you clearly implied that everyone gets called fat, but it's worse to call a woman fat, which would imply you think we should stop calling girls these things than boys? Just proves my point that women can't accept equality, if it happens to them, they only want their side of it fixed.
No, I will not say men get their looks talked about more than women, I will say that there are things that measure in it, though compared to it, such as the males sexuality, in which females don't get aas much of as males.
No, that wasn't an "asking for it" remark, it was a "Don't go in to a position you know will involve those things if you are unable to handle it" remark. Ofcourse, you try to twist it about, though.
It is not sexist at all, you clearly demonstrated what I was saying with the whole "fat" part of this topic. It's sexist because "you" don't like hearing it when it involves a negative of the female gender. Women have this nack for thinking anything negative told about their gender is "sexism" instead of facts.
Actually, wrong. Again, don't try to say things that I never said. I said, and I quote:
"Oh, well poor little princesses. Sorry, love, but your gender has to stand in the shit along side with the others that have to, and if women have a problem about it, don't go in to a position that runs the risk of it. Sick of women like you. You wonder why men call you weak and don't think it's good for them to be in positions of power, it's because of things like this. If something happens to the female gender, it "only" happens to them, even when reality shows that men suffer from it aswell, and yet, you can't stop complaining about it, where as males accept that it happens because they are icons, and having people talk about you is involved in being an icon. "
This whole discussion shows as an example, you've complained about this as if women are the only victim of the population targeting icons for stupid and things not involving the job they are in, and if such a woman was in power, then she'll most likely act like you have acted, like everything happens to women, and none of it happens to men.
No, I'm not a woman hater, the majority of people in my life that I "chose" them to be in my life are women, and I like them all. Again, you think that just because you see one thing better than the other that they must hate the thing that they don't like the most, which is BS. I don't expect you to understand that because, like nearly all women, women are either seen as equal or superior, or it's sexism. Women have no faults except for trivial ones, otherwise it's "sexism". You throw those words around such as sexism and female hater when nobody accepts you to be perfect or have done as much as the male gender or not suitable to do things males are better doing, which is why I now believe (I didn't fully until this conversation) that women shouldn't be in seats of power.
Newsflash, men contribute to society far more than women do. The work women do men can do, the work men do, women can't. Males invent far more things in the past and in the present. Note, I said the present. They are still continuing to progress technology and science far more than women are, and in most areas of society this is the case. Regardless, they are still seen as equal to the gender that can't do what men do, and haven't been able to keep up with male's progression to society even after their rights were given to them, yet that's not sexism to say that the group that have done less and still can't do as good as the other in most areas of society is equal to the one that is doing more in them.
Again, male and female aren't equal, if they were to be, it would be hundreds of years, probably more before it even happened, if it happened. The only way to be equal is if the female gender does as much as males have, and untill then, you're being allowed to be seen as an equal gender, but that doesn't make your gender equal.
What do women expect when they become icons? That everyone is going to be respectful to you? Ask things that are needed to be asked, and so on? If that is the case, then their rational thinking is just irrational.
Women want to be equals to men. Nothing more nothing less. And guess what we're still seen as less.
So you're saying being abused when you're an icon is something that's part of the job? What the hell are you even getting at there? That some how her being an icon led to her being abused? The fact that you have four thumbs up for that ridiculous point (No doubt women) is exactly why I have these views on women.
No, women don't want to be equal to men, they want to have more. An example of this is how women sit there and say "We have a right to have abortions", yet call men sexist if they say "Well if you get a way of avoiding parental responsibility, then men do too". Or how you sit there saying how women have it so bad as icons, when men go through just as much.
You claim to want equality, but women's idea of equality is different from actual equality.
For example, if we were to be completely equal, women would be seen as the inferior gender. Why? Because they have not reached the same ammount of success as males have, and so are less successful, and thus is inferior. You would then say "Men have had more time to do that, men oppressed women", then I'd say "If one gender is equal to another, how did they opress women?", and you'd make some ridiculous claim, and then I'd state the same thing again that counters that, then I'd sit there and mention how they still have not done the same ammount as men regardless of oprression, they still didn't do it, and then finnish off by stating how technology and science is improving mostly by male contributions to those area. Them you'd say something like "You're a woman hater for saying women don't help improve those areas", and I'd reply "I never said they don't help, I said/ implied that men have done more and still continue to do more in those areas", and then you'd finnish off by saying I'm sexist, yet have no reason to back it up other than the points you already claimed and I countered. Then the last statement would be something about "You're sexist, you just can't see it" and you have no reason or way to explain why I am, and then you'd think simply saying it makes it true.
Did I get it right?
I am not sick of people talking about these things, I'm sick of them talking about things that happen to everyone, then say it only happens to women. I'm not just sick of people talking about feminism, I'm sick of people speaking about feminism, then passing it off as full facts, then people believe the propaganda handed to them, and so I make polls to explain their "BS". I am not a fool to think women don't have hardships, although I am not going to say they have life at all harder than men, like the majority of women like to think.
I am here because I have been here for about three to five years, and I plan on staying here because I have grown accustomed to this site, and I believe if I have to go through a lot of irrational people to get to a few rational people, it's worth it.
Men and women have different 'hardships' to face. Some may be harder than others, but it's useless for people to say that one gender has it harder. There are too many variables.
"Gasp! You have no empathy!"
No, just that empathy hinges on shared experience. If you don't believe me, try explaining color to a man born blind or else what a heat stroke is to an Eskimo.
I don't think it's possible to compare the hardships, really.
I mean, okay, once I was out with a male friend and we got mugged, they beat the shit out of him, but they just hit me once to get me out of the way, all cause I'm a girl and he's a guy.
But then again, I'm constantly objectified and have to be incredibly careful not to put myself in bad situations, cause crimes, rape and sexual assault especially, are generally toward women.
So I think we have it really hard, but so do men.
I don't live in the safest environment so i think my opinion is more crime charged.
Oops.
I also get severe period pain .
I think we have it harder than men .
"hahaha:D"... Hmm, that's what me and my Alien brethren are going to say when we are picking on you. (::)
get good grades cus guys think their smarter than girls
have periods( hey guys have u ever experienced period cramps? didnt think so)
have to try to look their best because most men only like girls for their looks
have to deal with guys breaking their hearts
have to get pregnant cus of some guy
have to give painful birth to children
breastfeed
gain weight from birth
i cant waste my time talking about thiss cus i ko im right.
News flash, men work harder than women, which is why most areas of heavy progression are mainly done by men. So in actual fact, men work far harder. A few examples would be, law enforcement, military, fire department. Women don't get put in as dangerous areas as men, and they are expected to do less.
How about, erm, fuck you? Men should apperciate women for what they do? No. Men do far more and progress in most, iof not all areas of society more than women, so if anything, men should get more appreciation, because without men, you wouldn't have a house to live in, electricity, heating, and so on. You'd be pretty much primitive, and you'd have to fend for yourself, which men done for women in those times.
Oh, have you ever realized "WOMEN CAN'T MAKE MEN BY THEMSELVES"? You're an idiot if you think women can just fall pregnant without men.
Are you kidding me? Women get the less blame for anything, all the time they are excused for their actions. The female pedophile "Debra Levave" is a good example, she didn't even get jail time.
Get good grades? I am not going to lie, women do tend to get higher grades than men in "the education system", and there are debates on how the education system helps women out far more than men with the methods of teaching. Yet, look at the world. Women do better in education, yet men are progressing society, men are the smartest, strongest, and so on. All the great inventions in the past "and" today are from men, regardless of women doing better in the education system, so what does that say? It says that in education, women do better, but when men are able to go there own way, men do far better than women.
Have periods? Boohoo. Tell you what. When you make society from scracth (like men did), then complain.
No, they don't "have to". If men are more interested in looks, that is what they preffer. If women "want" to get their attention by their looks, then that's "their" problem fo dressing in such ways to impress men, men aren't asking women to do that, women want to do that in order to get male attention.
Yeah, because getting a broken heart is something only women have. Here's an idea, how about stop picking guys that are assholes, then? Because women do that all the time. They pick assholes over nice guys and then wonder why they broke their hearts. That's on you for picking assholes.
Women don't "Have" to get pregnant, this isn't the 1950s. If a woman got pregnant, it is because "she" didn't look after "her" body to prevent "herself" from getting pregnant, or "she" "chose" to get pregnant.
Well b oohoo, that's how evolution/God made us. If it wasn't for men, women would be giving birth to women out in the wild, and half the time the child would die due to not having the right things to keep it alive after birth. So again, in actual fact, men have made it easier for women to give birth.
Once again, boohoo. You have to breastfeed, compared to what males have done for society, women get it easy, especially if one of their probl;ems are as liitle as "breastfeeding".
No, you're wrong, you're obviously wrong, and I just showed why you're wrong.
Also, how old are you? If you're older than thirteen, better your grammar.