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Why is it that we are being told to respect females and not males?
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Both genders deserve respect, but I find it quite disgusting that it is much more told to respect women than it is to respect men. I believe it to be disgusting due to how many men died for their country and people, and if world war was to happen that males would be the ones made to fight before females were considered. Even to this day there are males in far more risky areas of the workforce, and far more males than female die in the workplace due to them having to do the more risky parts of the job. There are more reasons why men should be told just as much that they deserve respect, or even more, but you get my point.
Women are definetly being given more respect by default than men are given respect at all, and it is just wrong.
If anyone should be told they deserve respect, I believe it to be males.
I believe both genders deserve respect, but the lack of respect for the male gender makes me think that the female gender doesn't deserve it if the male gender isn't getting respect.

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thinkingaboutit
I'm starting to think you're obsessive and need help.
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It is seeming pretty excessive. I don't think we need this gender flamewar every few days, especially when the discussion goes nowhere.
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I agree 100%
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You sir, are a very intelligent fellow.
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Man, I agree. At first, I saw some of his posts and thought "Oh, here's an opportunity to talk about gender issues, maybe somebody will learn something", but now I see that he's making post after post about the same few things, and they're all about how how ~oppressed~ the poor men are. A lot of them are just him complaining about women, and then whining about how women react negatively to him when he says absurdly sexist things. I'm sick of it, and I've only been part of this site for a few days.
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I find it quite saddening that people would thumbs up a comment directed to the creator, not a comment directed to the actual topic.
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It's because we agree with the comment.

I think people are tired of this. We've all expressed our thoughts on the matter, and in the end nobody convinces anyone else of anything and everybody ends up angry. I've learned to just refrain from commenting because I'm not interested in getting wrapped up in it, but there's hardly any need for a constant stream of stories and comments like this one.

The story isn't even proposing a balanced grounds for debate - it's just your thoughts followed by "what do you think". Even the title isn't something reasonable like "is there an imbalance of respect between genders", it's "WHY is it that <insert opinion here>". It's a loaded question. And we all know that you won't end up conceding any of our points, and we won't concede yours.

I'm not trying to attack you. But the way that you type (and the frequency with which you post it) doesn't make people want to debate rationally with you.
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111
That is bullshit you hear.
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@: 111
Why?
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To be fair, women aren't allowed combat roles in the military, something about it would distract the men in the group because they'd be too worried about protecting the women.

But I was always taught to respect everyone, male, female, or anywhere in between. My rule is, you have my respect until you give me a reason not to. :)
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Ono
And it's the men in the position of power that prevent women having those roles, it makes it easier for some to suggest men sacrifice/contribute more than women when men prevent it happening.
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I like that rule. "Respected until proven disrespectful".
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ItDuz? Or a copycat?

Either way:
http://isitnormal.com/story/iin-that-i-get-irritated-getting-asked-to-respect-the-female-gender-118758/

It's been done. Done and dusted. The discussion was long, some pretty good insights provided - there's no need for yet another debate. Generally people agreed that respect should be given to those who deserve it, irrespective of gender. Case closed.

If it is ItDuz; honestly, you seem to have some strange pre-occupation with perceived misandry that exceeds the reality. Us guys aint as victimised as you seem to think. If it isn't ItDuz, I still stand by my point. We don't have it too bad.
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Yes, but females don't have it bad either, they used to, but none of the females today have had it bad, and yet they are being treated like constant victims.
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It's not ItDuz? Hmm, interesting. You and he would probably have a good discussion about this.

I don't think how you view the world is how most people view the world. Yes there are occasions where certain outdated ideas of gender are resuscitated resulting in discrimination in the 'modern Western world'. But from my experience this isn't a constant, it's not something I encounter every day. Certainly I can't remember the last time somebody told me how important it was to 'respect women'. Grampy talk.

There are examples of gender bias that bother me:
- Low conviction rates and lighter sentences for female criminals in general are very unsettling.
- Positive discrimination to the detriment of effectiveness in certain workplaces i.e. hiring females over males because of gender rather than ability/capability (happens in some Police forces for example).
- The way in which such biases against men are ignored, treated as humorous or otherwise unimportant by society in general.

BUT as I say, in terms of being told to respect women and in terms of men not receiving the general respect any deserving individual warrants, I just don't encounter this often. I'd say I probably observe it as much as I observe sexism towards women.
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i think males get respect especially from other males
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I don't know what kind of parents you have. I was raised by both males AND females. I was taught to respect everybody. And if they are assholes to me, well, they had no reason to be, because I showed them respect.
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Please see my other comment in this. Yes, you were taught, and you were taught incorrectly. You should not only have been taught to respect, you should also have been taught to inspect and prospect. In retrospect, I like to borrow a line from the great American poet, Jim Morrison; I'm a spy, in the house of love.
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Can we please give this guy a ban from the internets?
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A million thumbs up.
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So thinking males should be told to be respected as much as females desevres me to be taken off the internet? Feminist logic for the win! Taking away your right to free speech (if you're a man) since forever.
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Not at all. I definitely think men and women need to be respected equally. I just have a long standing hatred of suckondick9.
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Why do you hate a person who believes in love and good things for all?
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Ono
Like pretty much everyone else I just don't see the huge disparity in respecting women more than men.

In some aspects of society women have the upper hand, child custody for example. In other aspects, such as their depiction in much of the media they don't.
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wigsplitz
I've never heard this before. My parents told me to be respectful to ALL adults.


In the home, both of my parents leaned more towards respecting males much more. For instance, my brothers were favored by both my parents for being male, and my dad was top dog, period, end of discussion, just because he was the man.

Me personally, I am respectFUL to everyone, unless they give me a reason not to be. You can't know anything about someone, what they have or haven't done, just by their gender alone. You might pass a man and a woman on the street, and you don't know if the woman is the veteran and the man is a convicted burglar, or vice versa, so it's not logical at all to respect anyone more or less based on sex.

You state this as fact, that we're being told to do this, but can you prove that? I've never, ever heard anyone tell anyone to respect 'women' alone, and I'm almost 34. Who is saying this? Even if someone IS saying/teaching this, can you prove it has had any negative effect on men?
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I don't give respect to people based on their gender. I only respect people who have earned respect male or female.
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When someone says you should respect females, it doesn't mean men aren't getting respect. Nor does it mean you have to disrespect men to give women the same respect. Getting upset about it doesn't fix the problem you see. Just respect everyone and treat them how you would want to be treated, even if you don't think they deserve it. That isn't really for you to judge. Everyone deserves respect, even assholes.
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wigsplitz
I see what you're saying and I think you've hit on what this person is really asking about. Back then, when women were first considered actual real people finally, people DID have to be told to respect women because it was a new thing. But just like you said, telling people to do so wasn't saying to respect women MORE, it was just to give them the SAME respect.

OP, that was a long time ago, and like everyone else has said, nobody even says this shit anymore and it never even meant what you're assuming it meant.
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So...according to you, you think the asshole/bitch who stole my mom's car today and took all her shit deserves respect?
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Yes, but sadly, that asshole probably doesn't know what it looks like. And I'm sorry to hear about your mom's car. Does she need a ride somewhere? I'll come pick her up.
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Thanks. But we're good ^_^
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Absolutely, yes. I think we should look back, find out who the asshole/bitch is who stole your mom's car today and took all her shit and then give them a good lesson in proper English grammar and etiquette.
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You're becoming plain laughable for someone who wants the world to revolve around their own ideas and virtues.
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Just ignore these comments. It's only a sad person with a thesaurus and a superiority complex.
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Thanks. It's hard to ignore his antics, but I'm growing tired of arguing with someone who thinks he's superior to humanity. Plus he's making my blood pressure skyrocket lol.
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You might think that it's 'laughable', to use your own word, but in reality, it's quite possible that someone has injured or killed a person (by the time you finish reading this), simply because they did not understand proper English grammar and usage. Think how many times violence has occured in the last year, because someone took offense to "being disrespected". If someone "disrespected" you, it means the oppostite of looking back at you, or looking forward at you. It makes absolutely no sense, and it is certainly no reason to shoot someone.
I do not want the world to revolve around my ideas and virtues, because it is not solely my world to make this decision for. I would then be nothing more than a greedy and selfish autocrat, like so many throughout history that created the mess we're in now. I'm just providing some new ideas, which I think might be to the benefit of all. It is at your discretion whether or not to use these. I would simply like people to start thinking about some things that have become routine, and sometimes creates much damage in society. You decide.
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By the way, I should have not been led astray. You led me by using the word 'virtue', which is derived from the Sanskrit vira, meaning male. Just goes to show how much of a male-dominated society we live in. I would have used different words.
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I am a cop and you will respect my authoritah!
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I do think that as things equalise, the gender, or race, or class that had been dominant is first of all blamed for the past inequality, and then is ignored in discussions about equality as if they don't deserve it. Maybe it's a natural human thing of trying to balance things out. I'm not particularly sure it's fair, though.

I'd hate to be a divorced father. Where men and women are different, we legally allow for the differences in women, but we don't do that for men. My sister used to work for the CSA (Child Support Agency). She has a reputation as a bit of a man-hater but working there changed her mind. So many of her cases were closed because the fathers they hounded eventually gave up any hope and committed suicide. She left because she didn't believe in the work.
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@: dappled
God that saddens me. I hate knowing that there are so many good fathers out there being screwed over by the system, often in favor of unfit mothers.
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From speaking to my sister, often the mothers also thought the CSA was being unjust. On one of the cases (not my sister's), the parents had already worked out a perfectly satisfactory arrangement, but the CSA would not leave it alone.

They first tried to criminalise the father by saying he wasn't allowed to make an arrangement with his estranged wife. They then spoke to his employer about seizing 80% of his earnings so they could redistribute it themselves. They made out that because he hadn't gone via the CSA, he was a feckless father who wasn't contributing at all.

He lost his job because his employer disapproved of this. He became reliant on his parents and had to move back in, at which point the CSA started hounding them too. He had a nervous breakdown and committed suicide three months later.

The person whose case it was got a letter from the man's thirteen year old daughter, describing what kind of man her father was, how he had always paid up whatever he could, and had even sold his beloved motorcycle to pay for a family holiday he himself wasn't going on. He paid for his ex and kids to have a great holiday.
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@: dappled
My God that is tragic.
Totally not the first time I have heard of child welfare services hounding troubled families and making bad situations worse. I'm they that they do great work but it really angers me hearing about them wasting their time and resources on decent but troubled families and closing cases on families in which extreme abuse and neglect occurs.
Viscous women do not deserve children.
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I so totally agree. Where I live we don't have the CSA, but the mothers can go to the court and get sometimes all of the guy's wages. He then has to fight to get the award reduced. My ex abducted our little girl and the courts wouldn't do anything for nearly a month because my daughter was with her mom so theoretically she was safe. If I'd done the same they'd have locked me up. Likewise when she did the same thing again I didn't even bother to go back to the court. We guys get really screwed over...
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Well I was taught to respect my elders, not a sorry ass for excuse Man. I think by we being female, you men must have total respect for us because a woman was built to bare a child, take care of home and a lot stronger than men when it comes to financial issues.
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And the award for most opinionated sexist woman here goes to...
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It's biblical - man was created first. Pity she can't get over it...lol
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That's adorable.
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I could tear you apart with logic right now, but I think it is a bit too obvious how wrong your opions are.
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No, I'm nowhere near wrong. It's the truth so deal with it, just because you'll have a penis that doesn't mean men rules the world.
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Meh, ok, you asked for it.

The reason why women have at all become able to work at the same level of men isn't because they have now got the rights to, it is because technology has progressed, mainly due to males. If we lived in a society that wasn't involved with technology, and we had to rely on our own skills instead of technology, which would mean much more hard labour, then women wouldn't be able to even be half as good as men at jobs. But, since "men" made most technology, women now are able to. One could argue that it is men that made women have a place in the workplace, because we all know that if females had no technology to rely on, they'd have to go through hard labour, and which gender do you think is better for that, hmm?

Males built society. If you look outside a window, you'll see buildings, cars, walkways, roads, they were all put there by men. If there was no buildings, there would be no civilization, if there was no civilization, we would still be primal, if we were still primal, women and men would be going by their original instincts in the wild. Key meaning is; without men, you wouldn't be able to live for long.

It was men that originally thought women should have a chance at working like males do.

Far more men are in the military than women, they have the most fire power, and most power all in.

I could go on and on, but I'll see how well you get on with those points first.

No, me having a penis doesn't mean men rule the world, but men being the main reason for civilization being made, that gives them a good enough point.
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Yes, and people shouldn't be just given respect anyway, they should have to earn it.
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Only if they have baseball bats with them.
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JustinBiebsFan#1
that nice, you can stay at my house and eat my food and use my sister, she number 3 prostitute in my country
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Okay, sounds great. Where do you live :P
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100% agreed.
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this is what happens wen you let them leave the kitchen first they want rights (maybe even a soul) then they want respect... Just go back to the kitchen were you belong
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@: Tehboss
So I can get my knife?
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so you can get me a beer anda sammich
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That's it exactly. People just do not think about what they are actually saying. If you look up the etymology for the word "respect", you will find that it is derived from Latin respectus, literally an act of looking back. Should we not be looking forward towards the future instead?
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I respect the ladies, not all women. However, in my eyes, every woman is a lady, until she herself proven otherwise.
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Aleks85
I don't respect anybody unless they earn it. But I do hate sluts and they'd never get my respect(That includes males by the way, ladies) So don't get bent.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nir-Xjj7PII
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@: ReighIB
Although he seems vert in your face about it, I have to agree with Marc Rudov, Aka, the no nonsense man.
I have watched many of his videos, and I have to say that I enjoy watching them.
But, oh my God, that woman is unbarable. She is in a lot of his videos and she has the nack of not addressing the points Marc is making, not understanding at all what he is saying, then trying to make a huge debate out of trivial matters.
The woman is just unbarable to listen to. A man is a slob because "she" can't put down the toilet seat? Ugh.
Then she is too stupid to understand what it is he is saying, that she thinks what he trying to say is that males should become chauvanistic, when in fact all he is saying is that men need to have more self respect...Somehow men having self respect is being a chauvanist to her...

She is just too immature and illogical to even be on anyones side to debate. Apparantly men are babies becasue they want women to put the toilet seat the way they need to use them...I mean, it would make more sense if it was the other way around. If m ales need to put the toilet seat down for women, wouldn't the "Aw, you girls are such babies, needing help from men to go to the bathroom" counter be a more valid one?

Still watching the video (I pause and add to the comments I make while watching a video), and she is still so oblivious of what it is he is saying. His original point was that men need to man up and not let women have all the say, then she acts like he wasn't saying that at all.

Finally, the video ended.
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I think people identify with their gender way too much. We are individual people in the first place, not just 'men' or 'women'.
Many modern societies discriminate against both men and women, not just against one gender: women are still being discriminated against in terms of work opportunities and unequal payments, whereas boys are often neglected in education. I believe this to be true for most European countries and America.
We could start to change this by getting rid of our stupid, invalid gender stereotypes...
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Nobody respects woman any more than men anyway. Women beg for equal rights untill it comes to something unpleasant then they call it the mans job.
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Men used to get more respect because they were the ones working and paying the bills and making sure the family had full stomach and clothing, and at that time they DID Deserve the "BIG PIECE OF CHICKEN" but today this isn't the case and often quite the contrary.
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Because only males can be sexist.
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People should respect themselves.
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Let me just give you an example of how males being disrespected is something that happens a lot.

I just went on Yahoo answers, etc. I made two inputs, one saying "I believe the female gender is being mistreated", and the other "I believe the male gender to be mistreated.
Both said the exact same things in each post, except male and female switiching parts, and the one that talked about males being mistreated got deleted due to being against the community guid lines, it was up for five minutes before being deleted, yet the female one has been up for two hours now.

If that isn't going against men, then I don't know what is.
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I wonder why they did that. How is that against the guidelines?
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I think when they say that they mean respect women sexually, but I do believe that people of both sexes as well as all and ethnicities deserve respect because we are all people.
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i feel everyone should be respected equal. but i feel the reason people are told to respect women more often , is because we don't get respect. if you think about it their are still parts of the world were women are considered nothing more then property as if you are equal to a car or house. they tell people to respect women not because we deserve more respect then men but because we aren't shown as much respect as men. Many young boys and even some men don't see a women worth and see all the things that we do.
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Women in our society should never be linked to women in other societies. We know women get treated terribly in other countries, that doesn't mean women in this society is treated anywhere near as bad as those women. In our society, women are treated better. An example of this is that one in six men will be a victim of prostate cancer, and one in eight women will be a victim of breast cancer, yet almost triple the amount of money is spent on breast cancer.

Society respects women far more than men, regardless of the fact that men created the society they live in.
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amen brother
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Ha i feel ya bro in middle school I got JAILED for DEFENDING my self.

some girls start throwing stuff at me. what evs...girls start calling me names...what evs i had worse...girls take my stuff...I got more money...girls attack me...dodge without attacking back
girls all jump on me and scratch my face gaving me a ton of blood...I fight back...teacher sees...girls fake cry...the boy with the scars and blood on his face gets in trouble.
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I don't care how i treat women. I really...i just...don't. You get more out of them that way and i've never seen ANY evidence to the contrary.
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Not this woman you son of a bitch :-)
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ALL WOMEN. They are not very smart, and easy to trick you see.
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So tell me Mr TommyCat, so you think I'm that way, lol, truth be told yes some women are easy but I'm not like that kind of lady....
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Then you must have a penis under that skirt.
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