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Am I An Ugly Girl? Is My Best Friend Hotter?
I am 5 foot 2, I weigh 85 LBS, I have short shoulder lenghth black hair, small brown eyes, thin lips and a wide-ish nose.

My best friend is 5 foot 3 and weighs 105 LBS
she has long black hair, full lips, medium sized hazel eyes with long eye lashes. A lot of people say she looks like Angelina Jolie

we are both 16
Do I seem UGLY??? does she seem hotter than me??? please be honest.


Thanks. >_>
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I don't know, you didn't say how big either of your tits are?
no i dont think so.. alot of actresses fit ur discription and they r sooo hot. u seem to have a nice lean body.. many guys like cute lil brown eyes. as for long eye lashes, use mascara.. put on some make up.. be creative and have ur own style.. i dont think u sound ugly but it will be boring if u dont have something that stands out in ur look..and this can be done if u start by finding ur ideal look and finding what u like about it. experiment with ur look at home but dont go out until ur confident enough. so no u dont sound ugly..besides angelina jolie is not that hot.. she has weird boyish legs and her forehead is full of veins. her lips are like jay z's .. so weird as if she got stingged by a bee.. (with all respect to her and her fans)
"Since when does exact body size determine hottness?"

Tits stargirl tits.
I would have said your friend was hotter until I re-checked her stats. If she were 5 foot 4 and 105 pounds, she would be hot, or 5 foot 3 and 104 pounds, or 5 foot 5 and 102 pounds.

Check again. If she isn't she's fucking butt-ugly.
send pics of both to my e-mail: ms3b@hotmail.com
and i tell u then
indeed.
Unfortunately for you, that's my point. Most Men like birds with big tits, we're fasinated by them.

With regards to women being more picking, it wouldn't be a problem for me as I have a rather large member, in anycase I don't think that women would be like that, they're women after all and most are far less superficial than men.
With regards to your first paragraph, I think you'll find that most women say it's how you use it not how big it is?

With regards to you 2nd paragraph, I am only giving you an honest opinion from a bloke, would you rather I lied just to make you happy? Facts are facts and tits are tits. It is human nature to like big breasts, something to do with them being good for any offspring you may have due to the milking potential of bigger jugs.


With regards to your thrid paragraph. Well this is were you women have a problem, because most men just don't care what women think or want, which is why men are men and women are women and tits are tits.
I glad you know how it works. I thought you didn't understand.

But your rantings won't change a thing.

As to the remainder to your comments, they make you sound like a lesbian.
No, your letting me know how "you" think women should be treated.

I think you need to read your last two paragraphs again, I'm sure it's writing feminist crap like that that makes a lot of people dislike you on this site.

Incidently I think lesbians are a great invention.
Did I say "I" didn't like you? You clearly have a chip on your shoulder young lady.

There are fundermetal differences between men and women, some of which even I don't understand so I would not expect you, a mere female to.

You lot bleed for a week and become completely irrational. (This could explain some of your comments.)

Did you know you can have babies too?

A man can laugh at a joke without having to understand it. A woman will just say I don't get it?

When I pick a kettle up I know straight away if it has enough water to make 1, 2 or 3 cups of coffee, this is because all men have x-ray kettle eyes and can see how much water is in the kettle (it also works on salt cellers.) Women do not have x-ray kettle eyes and most will just turn the kettle on and wonder what's going on when all the steam comes out. The brighter amongst you will fill the kettle to the top (past the max mark) every time you put the kettle on. A clever man realized that as it's a woman job to make the tea he should invent a kettle with a see through piece of plastic and thus giving females a x-ray kettle eyes experience. That's true that is.
Who isn't treating you like a human? (What animal are they treating you like or is it plant/mineral?)

I didn't mean to attack you with your own period. I wasn't even aware I could do that over the net. Did it hurt? If so, sorry about that, these computers are just amazing aren't they, whatever next?

I think you'll find that us men do assist in producing the offspring at some point in the proceedings, I don't want to go into detais to much on such a family oriantated website.

Yes, so I was a female and now I'm a man, I knew about this and have no problems with it, it happens a lot in nature, I think the technical term is evolution.

Your still not laughing.

Judging the kettle by weight are you mad? You need the kettle x-ray eyes.

I do get out of the house, quite a bit, mainly with my family which consists of my lovely wife (female), two kids (1 female) two dogs (1 female) & two cats which are both male which means the males rule the house, although we have a suspicion that one of the cats may be a homosexual so we'll call it a tie. The only time I'm on this site is when I'm a bit bored at work.
I treat every woman I know like a human. I don't treat anyone like a dog. How have you been treated as a non-humam? The chip on your shoulder seems to have turned into a potatoe.

Do you bleed for a week? Do you become irrational. Yes or no?

I don't give a shit what Parthenogenesis is and can't be arsed to google it, no doubt it is something to do with men hating lesbians.

Of course I don't have x-ray eyes, that's what superman has. I have x-ray kettle eyes. As I have these and you don't, you're the one lacking.

I think you'll find that species does evolve one individual at a time over a great deal of time.

I don't know you, but I doubt you laugh very much at all, you take life far to seriously. It's supposed to be fun, not a constant struggle against the aggressor known as man.
I can't understand I'm a man or because I'm a bit of a cunt?

I'm glad you've cleared that period thing up, I have told girlfriends for years that they are all in the mind, which for some reason resulted in irrational shouting and tears? With regards to mens pms, I'm a grumpy git for a least two hours after I get up Monday - Friday.

So parthenogenesis is nothing to do with men hating lesbians, but something to do with a couple of dragons, slight irony I think.

Yes, of course x-ray kettle eyes don't exist, I was just trying to get point across which seems to be lost on you because you have the ability to lift something up and guess how much liquid is in it. (Generalizing & exaggerating because I thought it was funny, must not do in stargirls company.)

Again stargirl, evolution was a joke, I am fully aware of what evolution is & your still not laughing.

"I love men, I live my life surrounded by men." Some people might call you a slut, not me of course.

I didn't call you a man hating lesbian or even imply such a thing, take that chip off your sholder. And anyway what's the opposite of a lesbian?
You're right to a certain point Stargirl. The truth is that "petite" women are actually more fertile than those who are not "petite," it's a scientifically proven fact and is also a proven fact that that is the reason men are more attracted to petite, feminine women than the opposite (kind of a psychological thing that men have implanted in their brains). I, myself do not care about that, I am attracted to women who like to take care of themselves ie...exercise eating properly etc.. I do not really care that much about a woman's breast size and by saying that ALL men are that way is hypocritical as it is the same by saying that ALL women prefer bigger penises. I am only 4" long right now and I've given my wife FAR more orgasms and sexual pleasure than any man bigger than me and she's had up to 9".

As far as breast augmentation goes, some women actually WANT bigger breasts as some men WANT bigger penises. The only thing is that men can get their penises bigger and would have much better results through PE (Penis Extension) exercises and traction devices like a penis extender. Women don't really have a choice on ways to getting their breasts bigger other than implants.

My point is that you can't get angry at somebody for having their preferences. We all know that people like that's options are EXTREMELY limited to the people he/she will enjoy being with. I feel that the emotional aspects of a relationship FAR outweigh physical appearances to an extent.

And, Stargirl, how can you not agree that a man who may have a smaller penis but who is more in touch with your emotions and the way you feel, knowing everything that turns you on and gets you going will not pleasure you more than just some guy with a big dick who sticks it in and out, rolls over and is done?
And as far as parthenogenesis goes, you should be smart enough to figure out that Evolution for humans happens over a span of tens of thousands to millions of years. If men were not around, all humans would die out before that ever happened. And actually, scientists have successfully mated two female mice by combining their chromosomes and implanting them into an egg and putting it into the uterus of a female. Results came out to be that the offspring are ONLY female and 100% healthy, they are actually considering doing this with humans (such as lesbian couples) as soon as they are 100% sure that it is safe for humans. This does not mean that with the existence of this technology that the human race will drastically undergo any type of Evolutionary break, but it does go to show that women COULD possibly take things into their own hands and IF all women turned lesbian that there is hope for the possibility that they could continue to exist without men through the use of modern science. (Luckily for us men though, there are FAR more women out there who prefer a man over a woman).
And brothershamass, to say that MOST men don't care about what women want or need is just a bullshit excuse for yourself. By adopting those beliefs you actually limit yourself on exactly how much you will be able to pleasure a woman, not just sexually, but emotionally as well. It's men like you that turn women into lesbians in the first place. My wife and I are only 21 years old and we would die for one another. We are romantic with each other and give one another what each needs out of the relationship. The day that you learn to be a REAL man and get in touch with your emotions and learn how to get in touch with your girl's emotions, you will never truly be happy and you will die a sad and lonely little man.
Another joke you didn't get, I know what it is, as soon as you explained that it's nothing to do with men hating lesbians I took the time to read about it.

You didn't think I was joking about x-ray kettle eyes, even when I said that a man invented a kettle with a see through piece of plastic to give women the same effect? No of course it wouldn't be a joke would it stargirl, it's much more likely that the poster is insane!

I asked for your definition of the opposite of a lesbian, because I wanted to know what type of person you are, rather than guessing, as it depends what sort of lesbian you are the opposite of. As I have explained before I am married with children, so am more than aware what happens during and after intercourse.

So you don't sleep with men then? You just love them. Well why do you spend so long moaning about "typical men"? Are your men not typical?
Are you calling my wife a moron you ignorant prick?

I understand what love is I am married with two kids. The love that friends have is nothing in comparison & you won't understand that until you find such a partner that you want to spend the rest of you life with and then are lucky enough to reproduce. How old are you by the way?
As for you, when did I say that? And as for me turning women into lesbians that was just something that someone made up, there no truth in the matter.

You got married 21, how long you been together?
I've explained to you twice now that that was a joke, you are starting to bore me you tedious little woman.

You're not with anyone as far as I can work out and you clearly don't have children. Having children changes your life in a way that you can't understand until you've had one. You may think you know what I'm taking about but you don't, because you have never held your newly born child in your arms and looked into their eyes.

You have misunderstood my comments with regards to your age, I don't think you're a young kid just starting out in life, quite the opposite in fact, I think your biological clock has been ticking for some time now.
It wasn't funny because I'm not aloud to make the loosest sexist jokes. But it is fine for you to make comments such as "typical men, blab blah, boring, boring, lesbians, ect....." and mean what your saying. You're such a hypocrite.

The fact your ex husband treated you like a piece of dirt is more likely because you're a bit of a twat, rather than because you're female. (That's not a joke by the way, I mean that.)

Yes I am, what a cunt I must be. Again, not because your female, because you're a twat.

Have you adopted yet then? I pity the poor child with all the shit your going to fill it's innocent little head with.

I glad your happy, I just feel sorry for your other half though. (That's a joke, I don't care.)

I don't claim that marriage is the be all and end all. It's what my wife wanted, so I gave it to her, the day after I married her I felt the same as the day before, except I was on holiday.
Your friend sounds much hotter. Just being honest. But I could be wrong, since its impossible to tell with that description for sure.
"Typical males.....feeding into stereotypes that reap rewards for themselves yet moaning and bitching when they are fed into them themselves."

I take it, that this is due to me stating that men like big tits, some men also like small tits are they not typical? And what about having a preference for a blond, brunette or what colour eyes they have, does that make someone a typical man? At what point does it stop becoming sexist? You can accept someone for who they are, but being sexually attracted to them is a different thing all together.

You for example could look like Angela Jolie and I would still be repulsed by you because of the opinionated shit that you write.

I get called a moron for assuming things about your ex-husband. You dear, are the twat that married him not me.

So have you adopted or not?

I made it quite clear that it was a joke and that I didn't care anyway.

"Married with two kids..." Please read the whole paragraph and not dissect it to meet your aims. LOL

Incidentally my parents have been married for over 30 years, they also brought two wonderful children into the world.

You need to realize everything isn't defined by your own definition.
The fact you married someone with a problem towards women is properly the reason that you have issues with men and marriage now. I don't have any problems or issues with women, I mearly have a sense of humour that you do like.

You'd be running in the other direction, is this because I said I'd be repulsed by you, that's very childish, are you running out of insults?

How many times do I have to tell you the whole kettle thing was a joke? I also wrote "A man can laugh at a joke without having to understand it. A woman will just say I don't get it?" Perhaps I should have said will go on and on about it over and over agaain, almost like they are nagging. Of course women don't nag do they & if you don't like that stop being a stereotype yourself.

Perhaps you didn't understand, I meant that I had what most people dream of having, i.e. happily married with kids. Although being with someone and not being married with kids is just the same.

I guess your parents splitting up may go some way to explain your shitty outlook on life, it must have been very hard for you, but don't you think it's time to move on?

I don't know how well they screen adoptive parents in your country, but it can't be that bad surely.
I only knew one man that used to slap his mrs about after he'd had a drink. I always thought he was a bit of a cunt as did all my friends, although she didn't help matters, I think she had some issues. Suprisingly they split up and moved away. I also used to have a very dear friend that got married to a mad which, he was always turning up with scratches and bruises and would normally claim that he'd had some bizarre accident whilst eating a pizza. He's not allowed out anymore. Other than those two, I don't know anyone that treats any female or male like a piece of meat. It sounds shit where you live, if it were me I would move.

I have a sense of humour that some people find funny and some people don't, I am aware of this and I don't care.

I don't disrespect you because you are a women, stop using that as an excuse, it's because I think you're a cunt. (Along with Bush & Blair.)

Yes indeed, nag nag.

OK I don't have any statistics to prove I'm right, but an awful lot of people get married and have kids. I can't think of many people I know that are adults and have not been married and don't have children. Maybe it's just where I live.

"..like you seem to want women to be. If you can't handle a women wanting to be treated as an equal HUMAN than I suggest you stay away from all women except those weak ones like your wife who must like being bossed around."

a) Leave my wife out of this
b) You really are quite boring.
c) When have I indicated to you, (when I haven't been joking) that I am some sort of mad woman hater?

I really don't know it was just a guess, there must be some reason to explain your attitude. As I say, my parents are still together and very loving to one another.

I have compassion of course, which is why I am concerned that someone would let anyone with such a massive chip on their shoulder have children.
I was in a pub once and there was a great big black transvestite in there. He/she was being a complete tit and the barmaid said to him/her, "If you want to be treated like a lady, start acting like a lady". Likewise, if you want me to stop calling you a CUNT stop acting like one. I'd be having the same argument if you were a man, stop hiding behind your gender.

I am happily married with kids. I assume that's what everyone else wants or are you suggesting they want to get married and be miserable? Yes I know some people end up miserable, that unfortunately is one of the facts of life. I am indeed a lucky man.

Why have you still got feelings for him?

You talk about people being treated like pieces of meat and you're trying to tell me you haven't got a chip on your shoulder. If someone expects you to cook them dinner and wash up ect, that isn't being treated like a piece of meat it's being treated like a cunt. Don't do it.

I don't take life a seriously as you, I would laugh if it was funny, if it wasn't it wouldn't bother me, I'd just think you're a bit of a tit. As you don't seem to grasp the basic principles of humour, I doubt either will happen.
u may be one of the original, i respect that but lay off of star
a) That's no reason to respect anyone.
b) She is old enough to look after herself.
c) Why would I care for the opinion of someone who likes drinking blood and whom wants to inlist seven swordmen?
Bashing you with jokes? I am treating you as I would anyone I was having an argument with.

I meant specifically people who get married as they are the majority (where I live anyway.)
If a person wants to remain single or whatever then fine.

I wasn't taking his side, you were getting on my nerves and I thought it was funny.

What you appear to misunderstand is that I am in complete agreement with you about the way women should be treated. I also stand by all of my comments, don't you think that women should be able to laugh at themselves? And yes I am aware that I'm a bit of a cunt, I came to terms with that a long time ago.

The fact that I don't feel that you deserve my respect has nothing to do with the fact that you are not the same gender as me, I've told you this already, get over it.
Only the female ones which have an ability to laugh at themselves. Not the males, that would just be silly.

Well I think it's funny, it's not my fault you're still raw. Don't you think it's time to move on. LOL

Obviously I don't care, I think I've made that fairly clear.
Sure you have.

I deal with facts, some women become irriational when they have their period, if you don't believe me do some reseach.

You can't laugh at yourself, that's not my fault, if you made a joke (you'll have to read up on these) about a penis and it were funny I would laugh. If "I" didn't find it funny, I certainly wouldn't accuse you of attacking me with me with my penis!

Seriously, we are not living in Nazi Germany, and jokes about periods or cocks have not been banned by the Geneva convention.
I've already replied in a previous post about this.

You laugh at yourself all the time? Boy you must be very ugly or mad or perhaps both.

No, the funny bit was the clever man who realized that as it's a woman job to make the tea that he invented a kettle with see through
plastic. I don't expect you to laugh at that of course, because it is deeply offensive to a woman such as yourself. Thank god the majority of women are not like you, before you start repeating yourself about standing up for yourself, I'd like to point out that it sounds to me more like whining.
no way... ur not ugly :p actualy by the description you gave you sound kind of cute ;)
Yes it is a bit pathetic, but like I say, I'm bored at work and it helps pass the time. Yes I would have and due the fact you don't have a sense of humour you left me with little choice.

Well that's the joke isn't it stargirl, were not living in the 18th century and it isn't a womans job to make the tea.
I have explained the joke to you more than once, I'm not going to waste anymore of my time on it, you don't get it, I don't care.

You could research into something called satire if you want to understand more.
Good I'm happy about that.

I've told you I'm not explaining it again. If you want to take it as an insult then do so, I bored, but clearly not as bored as you are.
If you'd bothered to read my comments, I'm happy for you to take it as an insult, it doesn't bother me, I really don't care.
If you really had bothered to read my comments you would know the reason why.
Wrong.

Don't care.

Half right.
Like I said if you had read all of my comments you would know the reason why I keep posting and it's not because I care, I really don't give two hoots.
I stopped posting about that "insult" about eight posts ago. You're the one that keeps bringing it up, you're fucking obsessed.
shes hotter.
mmmmmmmmmmmmm...hotter!
...now doesnt stargirl like to go off-topic for arguements with others :p :D
If the insults don't mean anything why have you been flagging them as abusive?

See, you've mentioned it again.
I find it hard that you of all people hold the flagging system with such high regard.

Stop it, just stop it!
(That's hard to believe.)
how the fuck can you write/ care so much wtf is wrong with u peeps
stop it yall!!!!!!
I always take the moral high ground in those situations.
Hello, just because your friend might have features that you think are attractive to others doesn't mean much to alot of men. You might me smarter and more witter than she is. Generally guys notice and have an attraction to this unless the only reason they're hanging out is to get a piece. Always remember there is someone out there that is more, or less attractive than you. Don't be so hard on yourself with comparisions. I've learned that there is always someone more or less beautiful than you. You sound really cute. Besides for anyone that really cares, they will be more intrigued by personality, self respect, sense of humor, and someone who is spunky but doesn't have to be in the spotlight. I belive those qualities in a person are much more attractive to any guy who is interested in a girl with an intellectual abilitly, as well as being cute. Brains and balls with a good sense of humor rocks!!!
I also called you a prick.
Don't worry about your appearance, you're beautiful just as you are. Forget what the damn popular kids say aboout you, unless it's good.
ur both fuckin huge ass whale dope smoking fuckin wankers .. what do u do this shit for nobody thinks highly of ugy people like u get fucked by some hobo or something probably the only kind of people that think u look half decent fucked up whore
and just so the last guy that commented this knows its sad enough u use a name like large penis when u probably have a pinner that u use to tickle urself at night and just a reminder... ur ugly
One of the best and available shags I ever had was far fom pretty, I used to meet her in the movies, during the day. After dark it didn't matter because we used to find, as quickly as possible, a dark place for ball busting shags, as we had been playing with each other for at least a couple of hours and precum was pouring from both of us. Hang in there girl, your turn will cum.
Well some people may not find Jolie attractive, so you'd be the more attractive one. Other than that maybe you should focus one more non superficial aspects of yourself. You'd get further in life.
agreed
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