I'm happy that you like walking around naked. I myself have dabbled in nakedness during some beery nights out in the past. However I always keep my shoes on, what are your thoughts on that?

It's kinda funny you should say that because I had a friend who went nude but ALWAYS kept his sox on lmao. Why God omly knows. Nothing wrong with nudism if your climate permits it. Unfortunately here in the UK, in a good year we may manage around 60 days which is kinda sad realy.

Nudity is visually unpleasant, and copulation is disgusting.

It is not possible to live a 100% nudist life. Nobody goes to work or shopping nude. Nudist are nude only occasionally and in special locations. That is absolutely natural that nudism gives you a certain freedom-feeleings and your sex life is better in nudist environment or partners. Then and there you feel more liberated then in the normal society environment.

Not to everyone Fred. You have to remember we are all different and we all like different things. We have to respect other peoples wishes as well as our own. If you don't like to see the human body naked then that is just fine. Stay away from places where you are likely to see them.

hello i am the IPHONE...

Well.... Hmmm.... Thats a tuff one
*thinks to self*

Oh, I know!

Your a faggot!!

why dont you stop doing commercials for that place?

I went to a nudist colony once but I kept stepping on my hang down,bitch.

Funny how you're being just as intolerant as me by telling me to be more tolerant. :D

I don't know too many people who weren't repulsed by copulation after they learned about it for the first time. Eventually, most people are brainwashed into believing it's a good thing, but that doesn't make it any less repulsive.

Fred. I never got anything out of it myself. I got married and had 3 boys which was really wonderful but the actual sex act never done anything for me.

Interesting, but beside the point. When you learned what sex was for the very first time, were you repulsed by it?

Fred, that's not really a good argument. I was "repulsed" by various kinds of foods as a child (many vegetables, beverages, even wheat bread), and I now consume these on a regular basis with pleasure. My son is also repulsed by having to wash his hands after using the bathroom.

My point is, many of the things that disgust us in childhood are the same things we embrace as adults, and with good reason. I have no problem with your argument that we should look beyond our sexuality for pleasure and fulfillment, but there are few people out there who are going to be willing to do the necessary rewiring to eradicate the sex drive altogether.

Food can turn into nasty addictions for people too. Just look at the obesity pandemic these days. Perhaps it would be better if we decided to nourish ourselves via intravenous. I think it might be a good idea to look at the long-term effects of something like that.

Regarding washing hands, that is just something that is required to prevent the spread of bacteria. I doubt he was repulsed my it as much as he just didn't like it all that much. I hated my face being washed when I was a child also, because my dad nearly took my whole face off with the cloth and it hurt. I also hated having my hands washed because my parents turned the water too damn hot, so I expected pain. Perhaps he just had a bad experience like that, and that's where it stems from.

And on another note, regarding children and food, it is generally after a child has tried the food in question that they become repulsed by it. I've also seen children eat some rather repulsive things like slugs, worms, etc. So in that sense, it's not very comparable.

On another note, I'm not sure how early people generally inform their kids about sex, but from what I remember (being informed about sex when I was around 14 or 15) I was beyond those initial repulsions of certain foods, water, bugs/animals, etc.

True enough that food can cause problems in unstable individuals, just as sex can cause problems. But have you never known anyone in your life who could manage food and/or sexual relationships without becoming a glutton for either?

While I can appreciate that one might form an aversion to hand washing if it was forced upon them like an uncomfortable or even painful chore, my son doesn't fit your criteria. He hates to wash his hands because he simply feels it's unnecessary and that adults worry needlessly about personal hygiene. However, as he matures, I'm sure he'll see the logic behind cleanliness, particularly if he ever has to prepare food to be consumed by others.

I'm surprised that you were informed about sex so late in life. My children, and most children in general these days, learn about these things even before they are preteens. Therefore, it's not so much of a "shock" when they reach puberty.

It seems like you equate future human evolution with becoming a sterile and touch-free society. While I do think that some of your ideas are logical and have merit, they are much too extreme to be accepted by most people. But I am very much in favor of more restraint in many of the pleasures we have in life. Too much of a "good thing" seems to inevitably lead to bad things in time.

Just about anything can become an addiction, and as a result, cause problems as you've said. The difference is, food/nourishment is required for an individual to survive. Sex is not. And there are more efficient ways to deal with both nourishment and reproduction. I do like the example on that FAQ that deals with both food and sex. For example, sex aside from the purpose of procreation is quite similar to a person binge eating and then vomiting afterwards to purge the food from the digestive system to avoid gaining weight (or bulimia as it's called). You get the pleasure of food/sex without the side effects of weight gain/pregnancy, STDs, etc. Bulimia is considered to be a disease, so shouldn't sex without the purpose of procreation? At this point in time, I have to accept the fact that sex is considered the normal way to reproduce. I see no other purpose for it, and like I mentioned before, I believe there are more efficient ways to deal with both nourishment and reproduction. The sad reality is that humans are too addicted to change any time soon.

Regarding the topic of hand washing, perhaps your child is somewhat of an anomaly. I haven't been around children much to comment on whether or not there is a pattern, but I do agree that he will likely come to the logical conclusion that the spreading of bacteria due to inadequate personal hygiene is undesirable, as it could very well put other people at risk. Personally, I try to avoid children whenever possible, as they are often ill due to the time they spend around massive amounts of other children in their educational institutions. Due to the size of many of these institutions, the odds are that at least some of them will be ill, and pass their illnesses on to other children as a result of being in such confined spaces with so many other children. The same can be said of sex. Unprotected sex can cause sexually transmitted diseases and infections, while protected sex goes against the point of sex, reproduction. Therefore, there is really no such thing as safe sex.

I realize that I learned about sex later than most people, but I was home schooled and somewhat sheltered for much of my adolescence. I also learned about sex in a rather shocking way, which likely did have a positive impact on my development regarding the logic behind sex. Ideally, a vaccination could be based on this principle to prevent sexual acceptance in children and teens. It's rather frightening, but I don't know that I would have come to the logical conclusions that I came to regarding sex if I had learned about it at a younger age while being brainwashed into believing it is acceptable by the prosexual society.

Ideally, yes, society would become more sterile. I agree with your assessment that my ideals are too complex to be understood by the average member of society. I will still strive to promote evolutionary development while moving away from the sexual aspect of reproduction, as I'm just not content with human society in its current state. My thoughts will likely fall upon deaf ears, but I really don't care. Perhaps I will get the opportunity to say "I told you so" as society deteriorates into nothingness.

Just out of curiosity -- and you don't have to answer this if you don't want to reveal an alter ego you may have here -- but are you also ItsAllaConspiracy? The sci fi writings about the evil reptilian shape shifters, etc. are really pretty interesting. I just wondered because your styles are so similar.

You're right; it's not likely that many people will be willing to listen to your ideas, at least in their purest form. But I still think you're on to something. There's no doubt whatsoever that unbridled sexual desire and practice has caused a lot of misery in the world.

I plead the fifth. ;)

But really, is my writing style that obvious?

"Obvious" seems like an unflattering description. There are four similarities:

(1) Unconventional ideas.
(2) Extensive presentation.
(3) Excellent grammar, spelling, and punctuation.
(4) A consistency of character which is true to its beliefs and responds to its questioners accordingly, in a consistent manner.

As a long-time administrative assistant/clerical, I tend to notice these things.

You really should stick around here. I can think of only about six or seven REALLY bright people here, and you are one of them.

Your writing techniques, mainly your gift for persuasion, gave me the hint that you were likely in business administration. I spent a year in business school before going into computer science, so I was trained a little in these techniques which I've noticed quite often in your writing. Depending on your area of business, you've probably written a few rejection letters in your days, but my guess is they didn't seem like rejection letters at all. :D

I've been on this site for quite some time, as you can probably tell by my user number, and I don't plan on leaving any time soon. In my earlier days here, I usually just stuck to the chat though, but since its demise, I've taken to the forum instead. I hope you stick around for awhile too, as I've come to respect you more and more with every post. You just have that likeable character that's infectious, really.

How right you are about the rejection letters. I can remember the day a deputy director asked me to write a "thanks; your services are no longer needed" letter to the acting director of the department I was working for. I was horrified that he didn't have the courtesy to tell the acting director the "unfortunate" news in person to begin with. To have the bad news come from an a secretary was quite a blow to him. At best, a rejection letter is always a shit-filled twinkie, but I try to soften the blow as well as I can.

These days, my work is a feast of free time but a famine for the mind. There is almost nothing to do but process a few travel and purchase requests, and the phone almost never rings. It is lonely beyond comprehension. I could probably write that great American novel with all of the spare time, if only I had the discipline.

By the way, you should drop in on the tandem writing thread that we have going! You'd be a welcome addition. It's titled "Storytelling Made Easy." It's a little perverse, but I'm sure that comes as no surprise ;-)

I actually did write a few paragraphs for the "Storytelling Made Easy" thread several days back, but they didn't go too well with the storyline, so I didn't post. Besides, it was too similar to the sci-fi style of ItsAllAConspiracy, so I figured people might clue in, lol.

Ah. Our loss. Well, if you ever decide to join us, you'll have to bring your guide on German history, the Jewish holocaust, and exploding penises. And bestiality. It really is that weird ;-)