How can the Adam and Eve story be true?
This is for people who believe in Adam and Eve.
How could dinosaurs and cave people have existed if Adam and Eve were the first people to live? Where did all the different races come from?
The story of Adam and Eve contradicts with what I learned in History about dinosaurs, Neanderthals, Homo Erectus and the other first humans. I can't think of their names at the moment. I think there is Cromagnun and Homosapien as well.
1 FOSSILS!!!
2 were not all retarded due to toushands of years of inbreeding betwen 2 families (well...some are lol)
peace JAH bless
-Devil's advocate
As for the argument that "it says so on the book" lol...if your argument is that the bible is true because the bible says its true thats a pretty big loop hole.
Its my firm belief that in some years from now the bible will be looked upon as just another book of mythos like we look now at the greek ones with the diference that it was writen bye a bunch of dudes in the desert...
peace JAH bless
1000,0000,000 years ago our ancestors came here in spaceships from the planet Mmmmpzix. Our ancestor's technology was so superior than taht of the dinosaurs whose greatest technological achievement was the first latex condom for dinosaurs. Our ancestors placed brain control devices in the dinosaur's brains and used them as sex slaves for a new bestiality club called "Tyrannosaurus Sex". I have seen photos that are millions of years old of men taking it up the ass from Brontosauruses. Hideously mind scarring stuff.
After a short time the dinosaurs who's immune systems weren't accustomed to herpes, syphilis and gonorrhea died off leaving humans behind.
-dirt dobbler
And if we decended form 2 ppl as i have stated wed all be suffering from the ill affects of a little thing i like to call INBREEDING
peace JAH bless
in the end its just a matter of faith, it doesent matter how many times you try and prove with things like facts, every1 knows reason is the churches greatest enemy...
peace JAH bless
-dirt dobbler
In fact, we would all be clones. clones...roflmao it makes no sense, this bible.
you need to chose
religeon
or
science
this was bible. this was the written of the god. this is not believed to be, then is all of you are going to hell.
if you is in hell i aint not seeing you. becauses I Belief in the GOd. see you in this heaven with that harp. gods gonna be man with beard what listens to that harp. and amen and amen
Amen.
but we have proven that man started in africa... and moved outwards, their skin, hair, and eyes adapted best to their climate.
religion is a mental illness... just like that guy on the bus talking to his 'invisible friend' there is no difference. just more people believe in god than 'steve' from on the bus. think about it.
and i dont think theyre a mental patient jsut irrational
''Religion is one of the most serious mental illnesses of today. It is the inablity to face the reality of life and the finality of death. It affects as high as 85% of the American Society. Approximately 75% of the American victims of this mental illness are Christians. The more pathetic and desperate a persons life, the more likely they are to believe in a god. Typically, people with otherwise empty lives, are the stongest believers. It gives them the false hope that there is a higher meaning to their sad and pathetic lives. The strongest of believers would admittedly be suicidal without religion and/or a god in their lives providing a mental safety valve.''
''Temporal Lobe Epilepsy disorder has been linked to extreme religious experiences.'' (pentecostal)
''A religion by definition is a superstition. A religion is the belief in a supernatural being or beings. A superstition is the belief in magic or phenomena beyond or outside of nature. A religious belief then is a superstitious belief.''
''A common symptom of religion is delusion. Often including notions of resurrection.''
''Religious people are dangerous. They can not think for themselves...''
---george carlin---- you tube him...
If I talked to an invisible man named 'craig' on the bus, or at the store... and you were sitting next to me, wouldnt you think I was insane? Now change the name to 'God'... same exact thing.
http://leftofzen.com/quotes-atheism/2008/01/14/
"15 But the LORD said to him, "Not so; if anyone kills Cain, he will suffer vengeance seven times over." Then the LORD put a mark on Cain so that no one who found him would kill him. 16 So Cain went out from the LORD's presence and lived in the land of Nod, [f] east of Eden.
17 Cain lay with his wife, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch. Cain was then building a city, and he named it after his son Enoch. 18 To Enoch was born Irad, and Irad was the father of Mehujael, and Mehujael was the father of Methushael, and Methushael was the father of Lamech."
WTF IS THIS! If Adam and Eve were the first humans, then how did they're (now) only son Cain, go and live somewhere else, find a wife, and have a child. This means that there were other people around MAGICLY who weren't Adam and Eve's offspring.
Arguments in favor of a negative need only be stated after a substantial amount of evidence for the positive has been put forth.
1.doesn't believe in a god (agnostic)
or
2.believes there is no god? (atheist)
Those two very different views seem to be very mixed up here.
They're equally referred to as non-believers... even though their views are very different.
To me, not thinking the world is this, that or the other way has always been the default stance.
And if somebody wants to claim there is a god who is like this-and-this, then they've got some proving to do.
Not the other way around.
True, which leaves us in a state of not knowing... not believing.
"If someone wants to claim there is no god and have people believe them then they have some proving to do as well."
nobody needs to do that until there are some arguments for one.
a belief in a god that is like this and this and this is not a given state.
a state of not knowing is a given state.
"With your logic a person could go around claiming there's no such thing as air and we'd have to believe him because he wouldn't have to prove it."
No, because by my logic then we do first get evidence of the existence of the air.
We all can feel it and we can detect it through multiple means and we see its effect on things as it moves.
Thus we get convinced of the existence of the air.
And after that, anyone who wants to claim its not real has some proving to do.
Like I've said before, non-believers fall into two categories, atheists and agnostics.
Agnostics don't have a belief.
They're not asking anybody to believe anything,
just that people don't start making up shit in their heads.
If some of the things in the bible are not true, it should be safe to assume that the whole credibility of the book is, not credible.
yes its amazing how many people think the questions
"do you believe in god"
and
"do you think that the bible is true"
is virtually the same question.
Such a misunderstanding.
I am not saying that this proves the falsehood of a higher being. ( and btw, the rough stories r translated correctly). I am simply saying that this could easily, be interpreted as evidence, against one.
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People can believe anything they feel like believing.
But they do not have any arguments for it.
And not allowing people to manufacture bullshit inside their heads is not a "certain thought process",
it is logic.
"and according to believers anyone who doesn't[believe] is making up things in their heads"
I have never heard a single believer claiming an agnostic to be making up things in his head.
As a matter of fact, this statement is entirely false.