why

You need to get laid.

Why? Well, I have had a few friends that were also virgins into their late teens/early twenties, and once they started having sex, something changed about them, and we grew further apart. It seems more like a drug addiction, than anything else. I just fail to see the logic behind having sex, since the world is pretty well populated anyhow.

FLAMING HOMO IN SEVERE DENIAL

People have sex because it's in our instincts and because it feels good. It offers a deeper form of pleasure.

And you're an ass for leeching off your parents. Move out and get a job. And get laid.

I really don't see how people can use instinctiveness as an excuse for anything these days. After a few years of life within our advanced society (compared to other species' on this planet), I see little need for instincts. Or perhaps I'm a little more logical, and a little less natural than most people. You said people do it "because it feels good" and "it offers a deeper form of pleasure". Well, this just adds credibility to my "sex as a drug" theory. It's simply an addiction that people justify by saying it's an instinct. We don't see any other species on this planet that requires condoms to stop the spread of STD's, and birth control to keep the population down. Yeah, I think you throw instinctiveness out the window when you invent such devices.

Who said I was leeching off my parents and didn't have a job? I actually do have a part-time job, and do some work for my dad's company. It benefits all of us for me to live with them, since most of my money does go back into the household. It's much better than wasting my money on drugs and booze like most people. It really makes more sense for me to live with them than anywhere else.

And like I said, "getting laid" would only cater to the drones of society, not unlike yourselves, that think they should dictate how other people live and function.

ROFL at the guy that said I'm a flaming homo in denial.

Yo Homo, Read this carefully, You need Proffesional help, "Get Laid" Dont u have dreams of traveling and exploring the world, and "getting laid". It may be an addiction to some people but if u find the right person(s) to do it with it can also be funny and stimulating to the mind, (which is why i say u need prof. help) but seeing as how u have a one track mind i see its gonna be hard breaking throgh and getting anything into that thick Gay skull of yours. "Get Laid". I have several serious question for u and dont think i'm poking...i mean making fun of you, but did ur mommy use u as a sex doll when u we're little ? , or did ur dad poke u in the coolie wen u went to bed ? Is that why u wont leave ur parents home ? and are u Really UGLY ? cuz that would certainly explain ALOT. And yes your mooching off ur parents, no matter how much u contribute to help them pay for living expenses, ur a moocher. "Get Laid", get a life, geta an apartment, get a female (or male) dog if u think ur gonna be lonely (use ur imagination for that one), and Oh did i say "GET LAID".

we maybe advanced but the sex thing is still there, its the aesthetics of men and women and all the rest. and ye know your friends havent changed, just you, being the lone virgin.

living with your parents, dont you think your being sellfish, i no most people want to get rid of the kids and get some piece when they get older. and if you were my kid you would be out on yer arse asap.

sex is not a drug. animals dont need condoms because they are not as advanced and basically live on the principal that sex = life. to make more babies ensures the survival of the species. they do have diseases.

your parents had sex to have you. go figure

MoFo:

I have determined that approximately 90% of your post is irrelevant BS, with a 10% margin of error. First, I view homosexuality and heterosexuality the same way, but at least the homosexuals aren't afraid to be different from the masses of societies' drones that populate the majority of America. Sure I enjoy traveling, what does that have to do with anything previously stated?

My initial post may have seemed a little obsessive and extreme, but this is the internet, what do you expect? I hardly think you can say that I need professional help by simply reading three of my posts on some ridiculous message board. These aren't my "two biggest goals" like I previously stated, however, they are aspects of my life that I would rather remain the same. I don't have a one track mind; I just refrained from posting information that would be irrelevant from the subject matter within this thread.

Now, to answer your intellectually crafted questions: Your first two are completely ridiculous and illogical, considering I did state that I am a virgin, and these scenarios would void my virginity. Question three is inapplicable. Question four is relative to individual perception. I think most "ugly people", as deemed so by society, do have sex, regardless of appearance. I fail to see the relevance, but for the record, a couple dozen people (both male and female) have asked me to have sex with them over the years, and I have always declined. And if you want a more direct answer, I don't consider myself ugly. Somewhere, someone might, but there will always be someone that thinks your ugly, regardless of anything.

I don't consider living with my parents, helping them out with household chores, and paying my share of the household expenses mooching. They don't consider it mooching either. So how is it mooching? Your final scenario is ridiculous, and doesn't deserve any more of a response than that. And you say I need professional help? Check yourself before you check others.

Pie:

Your post has a lot more validity than MoFo's, however; I believe you have taken what I've said out of context in several instances. As humans, we seem to be at a crossroads in our evolution. I read an article once that said some day, in the distant future, there will only be a single gender, as mutations very slowly decay the Y chromosome. We will probably be extinct by then, but it seems logical. What I'm saying is, it seems odd that we are so different than any other species on this planet, yet we still breed the same way. Then we go to the extreme of removing sex's purpose, procreation. Doesn't this seem a lot like eating food, and then vomiting it so you won't gain weight? And this is considered a disease.

How am I being selfish if me living here is benefiting them as well? They have stated on many occasions that they want me to stay. I don't impose on their personal lives, and they don't impose on mine. I really feel sorry for your kids, if you have any. I've never understood that "I created you, and kept you here for 18 years, now get the hell out" philosophy. Perhaps that's why there's really no sense of "family" anymore.

Sex itself is not a drug. Like the coca plant itself isn't a drug. It's all in how people use it. Condoms simply remove the possibility of the side effect, procreation. True, sex = life within more primitive forms, but where do you draw the line? When the population is so dense that everyone is cramped up in a little cubicle of an apartment, living like animals in a cage?

Yes, they probably did have sex to have me, since that's considered normal. That's definitely one of the things I would change if I had a time machine, but I don't yet, so what can I do about that?

we are at heart animals and i believe your timescale is a bit off, evolution takes millions of years.

thats just a fact of life. ive not been booted out yet because im still contributing to the house but im defenitely not staying till im old. mean 60, come on thats too far and what a sponger you will look to everyone,

what do u believe

Sure, evolution itself takes millions of years. But once again, you've taken what I've said out of context. Simple mutations happen within a much shorter period of time. I believe the article I read said this particular mutation could take somewhere around 150,000 - 200,000 years. Still, some people have more animalistic traits and tendencies than others.

I really don't care how other people perceive my lifestyle. If people don't like me living with my parents at 25, or even 60, that's their problem, not mine. I'm the way I am, and I follow what I believe in. If people believe I'm a sponger, they're either misinformed or ignorant.

Your last question is a little vague. My belief system is very original, and intricate. Some of it I can't even explain, and what I can explain, it would take way too long to do so. I certainly don't follow any mainstream beliefs completely; however, I do insert certain aspects of various beliefs into my personal philosophies. If you want any specifics, you'll have to clarify.

yes and 150000 year is massive compared to the mere 76 year life most of us lead. Why start now, why miss out the experiances. And yes your can jump out of a plane or something like that but if its hadnt been invented and things like electricity wasnt discovered excetera, all there would be to do was to grow up, live, reproduce, bring up the kids and die, just like animals and humans still do. weve just got and extention on the brain compared to the rest of the animals.
you your expressing your desire to continue a sheltered lifestyle, and not get out there. what happens when your parents die, are you just going to swan in and take their house or what ever. too comfy and easy for some.

a belief system you cant understand. thats pointless then.
ok is sex a sin then to you or just because you think its trendy its wrong

Yes, did I not say we would probably be extinct by then? That's not to say some people aren't more evolved than others. Everyone is different, genetically. Some people are closer to that future result. We could evolve a lot faster by artificial selection.

How would I be missing out on experiences if I don't believe I'm missing out on anything worthwhile? If I deem something worthwhile, I'll seek it out. Speaking of your plane scenario, some people enjoy jumping out of planes (hopefully with a parachute). Other people would never do such a thing. It's all in what we perceive to be worthwhile.

I agree with the last couple sentences of your first paragraph. The advancement of humanity does require new ideas, new inventions, adaptation. We can assist our advancement in many ways, but if we keep following our more primitive side, it won't happen until nature makes it happen. That is, if we don't become extinct by then. Is that acceptable for such an artificial, technological species?

I'm not sure my lifestyle is sheltered, but regardless of whether it is or not, I really don't care. Where exactly is "out there"? If you're talking about outside, the world, the store, work, etc, I've already been there many times. If people think my life is too comfy and easy, I would invite them to walk in my shoes if it were possible.

Where did I say I never understood my belief system? I said some of it I couldn't explain, since it's too vast and intricate. And sure, there are plenty of things I don't understand. I'm not afraid to say "I don't know". It's the easiest answer, yet so many people avoid saying it and improvise and lie.

I never said sex was a sin, and I certainly never said it was trendy or wrong. I said it was primitive, and in the modern world, we should be past it. It could be replaced with a safer, more sanitary means of reproduction.

pish,

there is more gene diversity in a small group of chimps than the whole human race.

well then what would we learn from your manky shoes.

what happens when your parents die.

For living with your parents, you're a god damn asshat. For your rare interest in antisexuality, you should be awesome, because this world needs more antisexuals, but you're just such an asshat.

I have more questions,

1. Do you have a small wiener ?

2. Is it that you just cannot perform in a sexual situation (Like you cum in your pants just with the thought of having sex or maybe your D*ck just doesnt stand up, ever) ?

3. Do you masterbate ( you must atleast 2 times a day) ?

and the last is not meant as a stupid question,

4. what would you think of your parents having sex ?

And i still think your a Homo who needs professional help. Oh and the person who said your an Asshat is Right.

Are you just a geek that can't get laid? I mean, if you don't want to, that's fine. But there's no need to justify either decision, particularly with the arguments you use, which seem a little desperate to me. And I think you should talk to your parents, and see if they wouldn't rather have some time alone. I mean, they might not want to upset you by asking you to leave, but the least you could do is go out one or two nights a week so that they can have the house to themselves. Hell, I reckon you should join some asexual society and find a partner that you can live with... in a non-sexual way, of course, so that your parents don't feel crowded by your presence.

pie:

That doesn't have much relevance to what I'm saying.

Perhaps you could learn more than you think, if you weren't so damn closed-minded.

I think you're pretty demented for bringing that up, but I guess to answer your question, I would do what most people would do. I would grieve the loss, and move on with my life. Hopefully that will be a very long time from now, so I'm really not worried about it right now.

Bore:

In my opinion, your ignorance makes you the "asshat".

MoFo:

You ask the most ridiculous questions. You seem like an extremely sick, depraved individual. I really don't know why I should answer these, but I will.

1. I never had the need or reason to measure/compare it. In my case, it's simply used for urination.

2. I would never want to "perform in a sexual situation".

3. No.

4. I don't think much of it. It's really none of my business.

The fact that you still think I am a homosexual is proof that your thinking is completely illogical. Oh and how did you become the ultimate authority of determining who is considered an "asshat" and who isn't?

ombretordue:

I already stated that I could get laid if I wanted to. It really isn't that hard. I simply don't believe in sex, as it's completely illogical in modern times. I justify my opinions because people ask for justification. Look at the first reply to this thread (and all the rest) for proof of this. And my arguments are by no means "desperate". I thought they were pretty creative and original.

I think my parents and I communicate quite well, actually. I give them the time and space they want, as they do the same for me. We have a complete respect for each other. I am away quite often. Shoot, I just took the RV away for the weekend, just like they leave me with the house to go on their own vacations and such. Besides, this place has plenty of space for all of us to have our privacy.

I'm happy with my current situation, and really don't want to live with anyone else, especially not in a cramped apartment with other people living on every side of me. If I ever decide move out, I would rather save up and buy a bit of land and live on my own.

We should develop the sleepless human before we develop the sexless human, don't you think?

Hey, dont you sit there and call me demented when your the only person on here that seems to want to live with their parets till their at least 60.
and listen to the closed mindednes of yourself. again no one has really agreed with you. im not closed minded, i just think its sad when i see a sad hoachin prick clutching at the ol' apron strings

I said I think you are demented for bringing up the future death of my parents. I'm sure you would be pretty upset if some person started bringing up the death of your closest family members too. This seems demented to me, much more than simply being different than the masses. I'm certainly not breaking any written law by living with my parents at 60. So why is this such a problem for people? You're all a bunch of bloody drones, following the unwritten laws of society. Anyone that doesn't follow these rules is trash to you.

IT HAPPENS!!!!
If you plan to live that long then something could happen.

why do u think people take out life insurance, just for the hell of it!!! to waste money. no incase they die suddenly. logic has no place with you.

most bees live with their parents till they die.

let go of the apron strings.
go on ya hoacher

You seem obsessed with death. Go live your own life, and let me live mine please. Thanks.

Well in my opinion if you really want peace to live your life, why are you writing your shit on an email message board, or is it that this is your website and no-one else is allowed to reply, maybe who knows,eh? I don't believe there is anything morbid about talking about death, I have a friend who works in a mortuary and he seems perfectly happy and lively to me. I have read all the posts written here and have to agree that every one of them has a point against you. For one if your parents do want you to stay till you are 60 then you have to ask yourself whether they are only wrapping you up in cotton wool and actually trying to convince you the world isn't worth exploring. Another point I want to make is if sex is an addiction everyone must be born an addict because as soon as you hit puberty you feel the need to have sex. I think as well that the reason most people need to wear condoms in this day and age isn't because it is a fabrication of societys addiction to sex but protection against stds and unwanted pregnancy and getting more common these days genetic diseases, which can cause their children to suffer all through life, which parents should not want for their kids. I put it to you that you thought there would be more people out there with your own thoughts and feelings and when you found none, you took it out on people unlike yourself on this board, I say it is you who is close minded and self obsesses.

My last post was directed at pie and only pie. I have grown tired of her/his irrelevant comments, and insults. You're right, I was hoping for more of a positive response, but I can handle it. I'm just sick of all the hostility. And that's cool for your friend. I never said it's wrong to talk about death. I was implying that it's not right for someone you don't know to start talking about the death of the people you love most in this world. It's not like it had any relevance to the conversation, at least not in the short term.

You're entitled to your opinion, but I'm also entitled to mine. If you were say that my parents were telling me life wasn't worth living, I would have to say you're completely ignorant. And if you believe that, obviously you haven't read any of my posts, or are not reading them correctly. Or you are just a biased, brainwashed fool. I love life, I love living, and I do explore the world. I don't want to have sex because I don't believe in it. I live with my parents because we are close, and leaving would serve no purpose. We are far better off living together.

Again, you aren't hearing me correctly, or don't care. No one requires sex. I never had a desire for sex. I think it's like a placebo effect. Everyone is told sex is so great, and you should get laid. There's all the hype, which makes people want it more. You can't deny the parallels between drug addiction, and sex. STD's, unwanted pregnancies, genetic diseases, etc, that wouldn't be there if sex was disposed of, in favor of more modern, artificial means of reproduction.

Sure, I'm somewhat "self obsessed", I'll admit that much. So what? I'm the one living my life, so it's only logical that my life should revolve around me. I'm certainly not closed-minded though. I follow what I believe in, but I'm open to new ideas. I'm not saying I'll agree with them though, and I'm not about to go along with the masses because of what they believe in.

ive grown tired of people who cant commit to a arguement, or accept when their wrong.

and youve not done your usual answering the question, most likely because they speak the truth and you cant find a good grillin return comment.

so what is the point in going through puberty, what is the point of being alive, what is the point in life itself if the most basic fundamentals that we exist solely for cannot be done.

there is nothing that can replace sex because we have evolved to enjoy it.

When did i insult you.

and again, with the life insurance, you have to arrange your own death becaus it will happen. its called planning for the future.

I'm no longer willing to commit to this argument because it's completely futile. It's obvious we are both too set in our opinions and beliefs to continue in any meaningful debate.

What questions did I not answer? Were you referring to the question regarding the bees? Bees live in hives. Bees are irrelevant. There you go again, comparing us to more natural life forms. I live with my parents because it's more convenient for all of us, not because it's natural. It's logical. If I failed to answer any of your more relevant questions, please repost them. Question marks help too. Maybe you should try using them so people know when you're asking a question.

The point of being alive is to be alive. Each individual needs to figure out what his or her own personal purpose is.

Sure there is. Humanity is just too addicted to admit it.

You called me a "sad hoachin prick" and said something irrational about apron strings, probably trying to refer to me as a two-year-old. Before that, you were talking about how I had dirty shoes, following your hostile interjection. Then two posts ago, you repeated the apron string comment, and called me a hoacher again. I have yet to find a definition to the word "hoacher", but I'm guessing it's not good, considering the hostility you had been showing.

Sure it is, but that's a personal matter among family. I don't need some stranger on the internet to start talking about how I'm, or my family is, going to die. I already know that. You sound like one of those life insurance commercials. What's the point of this topic?

what can i say, you are well and truely gubbed.

have you realised there is no point in your post. a stranger on the internet am i. Well what did u expect.

google hoachin. no its not good.

dirty shoes......you wanted people to be in your shoes.

i dont need to punctuate if i dont want to.

you called me demented because i talked about death. im not obcessed about it. but in the timescale that you plan to live with them it is a possibilty. mean if i lived with mum till i was 60 my mum would be 93 for fuck sake.

apron strings. mammas boy, same idea.

you called us drones and drones are in beehives, not a good comparison.

what the fuck are humans, we are natural life forms, if you studied psychology you would have gathered that.

"Gubbed"? Maybe in your world. But you obviously live in your own world, not mine (METAPHOR ALERT).

You're right; there is no longer a point to this thread, besides amusement. I expected more than you.

I see that. And you had to ask "When did I insult you?" Then you admit it was an insult. That's very clever.

The original shoe comment obviously had a metaphorical meaning to it. It wasn't supposed to be taken literally.

Well, I would never tell you to use proper punctuation, because I know this would be impossible for you. I just asked for a few question marks to denote your questions. Don't get upset at me for not answering questions when I can't tell whether you're asking a question, or making a comment.

Would it make you happier if I said I want to live with my parents until either I die, or they do? Okay, I just said it. Forgive me for wanting my parents to live out a long and prosperous life. By the time I turn 60, the advances in technology could make it possible for my parents to live well into their 100s. Can we move on to the next topic now?

Maybe you should look up the word "drone" in that urban slang dictionary that so much of your vocabulary is derived from. And again, you've taken what I've said literally, instead of metaphorically. To simplify it for you, I will go ahead and take your beehive and show you the parallels. In this case, the queen will be replaced by society, structure, government, etc. The propaganda is spread to the people, by this 'queen'. The workers/drones follow the orders, and reject those who are not of the hive's collective mentality. Thus, there is little tolerance of diverse thought and individuality. So in the cases stated above, I would like to redefine a "drone" as a mindless automaton, carrying out the deeds of the masses. Sorry for the confusion.

We are natural life forms being consumed by artificial surroundings and technology; artificial technology that can drastically improve our evolution, if used properly.

i was being sarky. i always have.
your heid is that far up yer arse you can lick your tonsils.

i can use puncuation properly.

You are obcessed by evolution but you seem to forget the time scale. if you were to have kids i suppose you could be slightly concerned. technology might not move that fast. you dont know really do you??

i dont talk slang.

It would be much better for ALL parties (mostly ur parents) in this situation, if u just came out of the closet. They will except you, or throw you out of the house, one or the other, but atleast they'll know ur gay, and u wont be lying to them or to yourself.

So what happens whenif you fall in love? Or is that "primitive" too? I think you are some kind of know it all tech genius with too much time to think!

why?
I mean its not like its wrong to be a virgin or I'm suggesting you really need to make it your aim in life to get laid... But why is this your aim?
Is this a control thing like people who are anorexic?

Why are you blaming other people for this, saying it would only cater to other people?

Look I'm not saying you have to have sex but the fact you seem to think that trying never to take part in one of the most fundamental human experiences does make you seem like somone who is going to have die without havin ever lived.

And by lived I don't mean the drunken slags who think hedonism is living because they never 'acheive' anything but that, I mean the rest of your life as well which judging by the fact you never want to move out and are positively vicous towrards sex I would assume you are just as vicious to any progression of you life into new experiences, adulthood and maturity.

I would guess that you do not want to become an adult and are going to instead call everyone else fools to make you feel better.

Seriously go see a psychiatrist and see if s/he can sort out this fear of maturity, and your life will probably be a lot more satisfying.

For some reason you are unable to do these things, either physically/monetary or more likely psychologically.

Perhaps you are afraid of maturity, or of taking responsibilty for things like pregnancy or being truly independent, with regards to sex when I was younger I got trapped in a debate with myself about this, and even when i had decided it was okay for me to have sex ( I had become mature enough to take responsibilities for my actions and had a less simplistic view of the world) it took me years to get over this mental block.

What is sad though is that instead of just saying 'I don't want to have sex or move out right now' and even maybe wondereing why and if you could do anything about it you have decided instead to create some fantasy that you are good for doing this and insulting people who aren't you.

hey I have sex and I don't want to have kids but I can take that responsibilty, and to share that closeness and experiences with somone for years and years has been worth it. If it came to it wouldn't make a bad parent its just that I would have to make sacrifices that otherwise i wouldn't have to make, but i would happily make them in that situation. People may not want their child to be disabled but when they have one they still want that child.

I don't know if I'm on the wrong track entirely, but seriously just becasue you don't want something/can't have something doesn't mean you should become sour grapes and denounce whatever it is.

I worry about not acheiving and having the experiences I would like to have, and many new stages f life/experiences frighten me but afterwards I can look back and not feel I wasted my life.

Your behavious above reminds me of the people who becasue they can't or don't want to acheive in school they start calling the people who do geeks or whatever and taking the piss out of them.

man... you are so negative!

you've really impressed me by swearing not to use your life to the full!

I bow down to your plan not to do stuff!

I'm going to go enrol in a playgroup and stay there for the rest of my life, but I won't play with the DUPLO becasue that goes against everything I believe in.

Pie:

Sure, I can accept that. I use sarcasm too. The difference is that I usually use it directly following a meaningful sentence or comment to add emphasis. You often give it it's own paragraph. So you can see how one might confuse it with an insult.

You can use punctuation properly? I'll believe that when I see it.

No, I don't know how fast technology will advance. Forgive me for being an optimist in a pessimistic world.

You told me to google a word. I did just that. The first result that came up was in an urban slang dictionary. I looked several more of your words up. They came up within that dictionary too. I do realize there are many "real" words within the slang dictionary, as anyone can post definitions, but I did look these words up in a more reputable dictionary first, and they weren't there.


MoFo:

Before you post any more of your nonsensical rubbish, can you please state, in a very precise and definitive form, how you came to the conclusion that I am a homosexual?


wild:

I simply won't. I wouldn't say it's primitive, since it seems pretty unique, at least in its extremeness, to humanity. It just seems illogical to put one's self through such an emotional cascade. Love also seems very much like an addiction, and I believe that has been partially proven by mainstream scientists. I'm no "tech genius", it's just a topic of interest. And contrary to what you think, I wish I had more time to think.


Anon1:

Wow, you're right. There's nothing wrong with being a virgin. Though self-control does play a part, the main reason is my personal beliefs that I have developed as an individual, which I have stated repeatedly throughout this thread.

I am not blaming other people, since there is no reason to blame anyone. This is just a fact of the matter. If I were to have sex, it would cater to those people. I wouldn't have sex regardless though. That statement was mostly emphasizing my disgust for the ignorance of such people.

Those are your fundamentals and opinions, not mine.

I think that I've stated before that I'm not against life progression, or new experiences. It's just a matter of figuring out where my boundaries are, as it is with anyone else. Your preconceived assumptions appear to be blinding you from seeing the logic in what I'm saying, so you make this false image of who I am. I don't believe I've lacked any clarity in what I have stated, but if I have, please tell me, and don't be so ignorant.

On the contrary, it saddens me to see the foolish, ignorant state of the average member of the human race.


Anon2:

I think I'm pretty mature and responsible. Independence isn't really an issue, since I'm pretty much independent. I don't depend on my parents. I just live here, since it's more convenient for all of us. I could move out if I wanted to. There's just no point to it.

I wouldn't call it fantasy. Everything I've said seems very logical. People disapprove of my lifestyle and make ignorant comments and insults, so I retort. It's not a matter of not liking people that are not me, it's a matter of not liking people that want to make me them.

You are clearly on the wrong track. I haven't "become sour grapes and denounced" anything. I have given my beliefs a lot of thought. I'm not asking anyone to believe what I believe. I'm just asking for acceptance of my right to believe whatever I want to believe.

I don't feel that I've wasted my life either. Again, it's everyone else that thinks I've wasted my life.

Your final analogy is quite flawed. By looking at this thread, it's pretty obvious everyone else has ganged up on me. People simply can't accept the fact that someone wants to live with his parents and remain a virgin forever. It's just unacceptable, by society's standards. So I retort when they insult my intelligence and try to convince me that I'm wrong.


Anon3:

On the contrary, I'm usually quite optimistic.

When did I swear not to use my life to the full? What is using one's life to the full, exactly?

Well cool for you!

It's nice to know I have a copycat of ridicule. Was starting your own thread and copying what I said almost word for word, but replacing certain words with lego and armchair really necessary? I mean, think about it. No one's going to come out with a movie about legophobia. If someone doesn't like lego, they are free to avoid it. In my case, it's impossible. I can't count how many times I've been referenced with "The 40 Year Old Virgin". And now Hollywood comes out with a movie ridiculing adults that live with their parents. And it's not about the context of the movie, it's about the reaction. To society, a 40 year old virgin is shocking. So it just gives them more reason to ridicule real virgins. My lifestyle and beliefs are constantly being attacked by ignorant fools that just don't understand. So I come on the internet. Surely someone on the internet will understand. Nope, there's more acceptance on the internet for people who screw dogs and horses than for a virgin living with his parents. It's just completely ridiculous. If I had my own race or religion, this would be considered hate speech. But since I am an individual, and choose not to categorize myself like that, it's fine. And people question my hive/drone mentality theory?

Do the world a favour and kill yourself.............

Wow, and people call me negative. This still adds to my theory. This person is just a bit more extreme in his rejection. "Whatever is different doesn't deserve to live". He/she still gives no reasoning for his/her belief that I should die.

your an even bigger idiot that i thought you were if you actually believe all this stuff.

your head is up your arse bigstyle. i dont know if u are male or female. what does it matter anymore

Well I think you're a homo. In your last post, you have for no apparent reason, brought up the subject of he/shes.

pie:

There you go again, insulting me with no reasoning behind your insults. Of course I believe in what I write. And thus far, no one has come up with an adequate refutation of what I've said.

Gender never mattered.


shamass:

Your logic is flawed. I said "he/she" because I was unsure of the person's gender. I realize this should have read "he or she", but I didn't put much thought into it, since I was on the phone at the time. This has nothing to do with my sexual orientation, or lack of one.

i doesnt take anyone with a small hint of a brain to look at most of your posts and deside your an idiot, and before you say it, same for me.

By looking at most of the replies here, I'm really not concerned with what those people think. It's pretty obvious that most of them are just ignorant or intolerant.

I mean don’t get me wrong your second goal is admirable but not ideal I mean your folks would die before you turn 60 unless your into necrophilia

As for the first goal you have rather low self-esteem, and a virgin for life you’ve got a long while to go but you might find

come on to fuck man whats your problem i mean girls are everywhere...

and come on if you live with your parent to 60 i hope you have a large storage place for there dead body's

Your biggest goal is to remain a virgin for the rest of my life.

But later you refer to having no interest in performing in a sexual situation.

It's hardly much of an achievement is it?

Anon:

Just when I think you people can't get any more disgusting and ignorant, you make a comment like that. That's just appalling.

I assure you my self-esteem is fine, and I will not be changing my mind.


Talon:

Girls are irrelevant; I have no interest in them.

This has been brought up several times already in this thread. I hope they will be alive when I turn 60, but if they aren't, I will grieve the loss and move on with my life.


shamass:

I also stated that those weren't really goals, but aspects of my life that I would rather not change. I do think it is an achievement because most people would have given in to the constant attacks by society.

nah nah nah.

you canny just brush of the situation like that.

you dont like girls, girls are great. do you like boys. boys are great too, your spoiled for choice.

you have yet to say why it is convenient for u to live with your parents. strike up an argument when you have at least some back up.

for 25 you sure are stuck up.

Ok Ass-Cheese, Read this very SLOWLY, . . . Your Gay . . . Now Repeat, . . . Your still Gay. Anybody who won't even consider the thought of sex with a Hot women must be gay. Is your favorite color pink ? If its diseases that your worried about then strap on a rubber, hell strap on two just be to sure, (cuz thats wat there made for, for protection against diseases) but to say ur gonna remain a virgin for the rest of ur life, then ur Gay, Do u like men ? Or maybe u dont like men or women, and u love animals, Do u love animals ? Do u currently own a cat or dog ? F*cking homo. And to say that ur gonna live at home with ur parents till ur 60, IS F*CKING INSANE. OH MY GOD, I figured it out, not only are u gay, but ur a f*cking wack-a-do. Are you mentally retarded ? or have downsyndrome ? Did u have a lobotomy ? Cuz if u did that just might clear this whole thing up. Thats it i'm done, and from now on I'm calling u "Schmegma" If u dont know wat Schmegma is its the filthy, grimey, dirty, sweaty, scum between ur nuts and ur leg that smells worse than Ass, and thats wat u r, ur Schmegma.

pie:

What situation would that be, and why can't I brush it off like that?

In your scenario, I'm not spoiled for choice. My choice is neither. I'm not heterosexual. I'm not homosexual. I'm not sexual at all. Why is that such a hard concept to understand?

You bring up something I said five posts ago and in reply to someone else? Or was it seven posts ago in reply to you? Either way, it doesn’t matter. If this was so important, why didn't you say anything earlier? I have backup, I just didn't know it was an issue. It seems pretty obvious. I live in a large house that I probably couldn't afford myself. I have pretty much everything I need taken care of. I put my fair share towards the bills, maintenance, etc. Even though my parents don't ask me to, I help out as much as I can.

It's not hard to be stuck-up on a forum like this.


MoFo:

I asked you to "state in a very precise and definitive form, how you came to the conclusion that I am a homosexual". Now, I realize this may be hard for you, but your answer lacked any meaning due to your fixed, unrealistic assumptions. First off, you cannot put sexual orientation on such a monochrome scale. This is like saying that, because I don't like pork, I like beef. When in reality, I could be a complete vegetarian. My analogy may be crude, but the point is, your theory lacks any logic whatsoever. I guess you tried to answer before posting more of your nonsensical rubbish, so I have to give you credit for that.

Again, can you please refrain from asking such ridiculous, irrelevant, and contradictory questions? I realize that it is in your nature to post such juvenile material, but I would like to keep this thread civilized. Thanks.

why keep things civilised.

yes and so does every other bugger who stays with their parents. they pay money. help out etc. hence why i offered to pay digs etc, to my dad who uses the money to pay for his car etc.
still a sweet deal ,hes happy for me to be at home but i want to go because i dont think its fair and plus im not going to sponge of him for the rest of my life. but i suppose ive got a boyfriend as well, you've got naebody like that in your life.

Perhaps you want to edit your original post, as it has become clear that you these are not goals, rather than a lack of desire to follow through with the choices highlighted by many of the posters above.

Also, people amaze me. This is regarding those who feel that because you dont want sex, you are gay. I envy them because they are incapable of empathizing with those who have different beliefs. Intolerance is not a desirable virtue, and many of the respondents to your topic have proved themselves intolerant of difference.

Again, I cannot fathom why these would be goals. Because you have titled them as such it leaves the impression that you are in fact in a cycle of reverse psychology.
You quote those who tell you to "Get laid", and follow that by saying it would only cater to them to have sex. Why? The impression i got from this statement was that you will not have sex because they told you to have sex. I dont see the logic with that statement.

Living with your parents till 60. Lack of desire to move out, rather than a goal? If that is true, than for sure, do what you want. But it could quite as easily be a subconscious discomfort with drastic change as it could be a lack of desire for it.

Also, I think what many of the respondants have been trying to get at is, what will you do with your life once your parents have passed away. I believe this is 'pie's' argument, correct?

I am open to discussion, as you appear to be quite the intellectual.

- e.s. green

I should elaborate on what i mean by 'envy'. I envy them because they are too ignorant, and because of this are numb to the rest of the world. It would be theoretical to say that because of this ignorance they are stuck in a state of mind that is comfortable to them, left unchanged by this everchanging world; an oh-so troubling world.

Perhaps its not so much envy as it is intrigue with their thought processes.

- e.s. green

So what? You are asexual. I am bisexual. He is homosexual. She is heterosexual. They are all jus sexual oreintations which mean nothing. Your problem I that you think less of people for enjoying something. I am sure you have a favorite food that you like to indulge in occasionally. It is the same thing. Sex does not lead to drugs like they tell you in health class. Yes, it has its risks but so does getting in a car. You just need to calm down and not tell the sexual community that they are less for living their lives as they wish. I could tell you the same thing about using fossil fuels. Its all about winning. You can't win an argument. No one can... its an impossibility because you are the winner in your mind no matter what. Just shut your trap.

Why would you want to do this? it's just odd, i can understand the virgin thing, some people choose celebacy because it just complicated their life, but why live with ur parents untill (probably they die) you're 60? it's frickin wierd man

If a man leads a life of celibacy and has copulation occasionally for the sake of progeny only, he can bring forth healthy, intelligent, strong, beautiful, self-sacrificing children.

A true celibate possesses tremendous energy, a clear brain, gigantic will-power, bold understanding, retentive memory and good power of enquiry.

"Spotless chastity is the best of all penances; a celibate of such spotless chastity is not a human being, but a god indeed..."

http://www.dlshq.org/teachings/brahmacharya.htm

I am 32 and on the same path.

i cant believe how many people think that its not okay to be a virgin for your entire life. just because you choose not to share yourself with anyone else, doesnt mean that you need "professional help". i, for one, think that it is indeed normal.

i am a 21 year old female, and i DO NOT believe in having sex.