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48 Year old man with teen-age girl
30% Normal
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I do volunteer work at a public library and come in contact with all age groups - esp young people. I dress my best. New cloths, shirts ironed, shoes shined, shaved, cologne, hair buzzed REAL short because I am almost shiny on top. I am thin but work out. I was told I look good.

At least a few young girls like me. Some of the 15-18 year olds. I was shocked! This is TRUE. They make it obvious, at 16 their hormones are in high gear. Teasing and talking to them about fun things makes them perk up.

So far I don't have the balls to persue anything. Until now. I will suggest pizza or to meet in a public establishment so she can feel safe. Pick her up at her house? I will come up with a plan. I know I can pull this off.

The sex of course would be great with a beautiful, fresh young girl but I am really curious about the type of convo and things we would do. I don't intend to use then discard her. They are beautiful young flowers.

State law says I can go down to age 16. Not jail bait. Below 16 is.

I want to know how you would react (if at all) seeing a clean cut older man with a very young girl in public



Is it normal for me to date a young girl?
Do you think it's normal?
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Comments (56)
What`ll you converse about? They`d all be immature and all you`d be thinking is how `fresh` and nubile they are. Your a man and it would just be physical. Which is fine with me :-) If I saw an man near 50 with a young girl I`d think he`s a lucky bastard...it`s amoral but so what, nowadays this is the world we live in. Corrupt. Enjoy ruining the innocence of a young girl.
In "Operation Petticoat" (1959) Cary Grant got to say:
"When a girl is under 21, she's protected by law. When she's over 65, she's protected by nature. Anywhere in between, she's fair game."
The lower age as been "relaxed" since then, but otherwise let that be your guide.
Oh, don't be surprised if she has a brother or something who wants to kick your head in, so be aware.
thats just sick...your sick! they are minors and you are an adult! that is just so sick.I pay taxes to keep sick people like you in jail! ew!! oh my god!
Jesus Christ? Are you fucking serious?!?!?
Your fucking 48 years old!!! Thats just gross!! You better not mess with young girls you fucking perv!! Why can't you find someone your own age?

I think that IT'S NOT NORMAL FOR YOU TO DATE A YOUNG GIRL!!!!!! PERIOD!!!
MizzBrEeZy pay attention, fool. He specifically mentioned that the legal age of consent where he resides is 16. He's not discussing breaking any laws. This means no prison, and none of your tax dollars. Take your moral reich somewhere else.
To the original poster: Normal or not it's legal. That fact alone means that your only real guide is your own moral compass.
If you think it is right, then go for it. Enjoy the ride.
If you think it is wrong, then I suggest you avoid the situation.
If it is illegal, prison time sucks... Avoid if at all possible :p
@: flikr
How would you feel if your 16 year old daughter brought home a 48 year old man saying he was her boyfriend? Use your head.
I don't know where you live but here in Los Angeles it's completely illegal and looked down upon. I think (or I'd hope) that most people would find it repulsive. You two wouldn't have a single thing in common anyways. I've seen this kind of thing happen a lot when older men want to date 20 year olds and such. Usually it doesn't get any younger than that though... Teenagers want to have fun and talk about pop culture and such. You would have nothing to contribute to the relationship. And what makes you think a sexy young girl would want to sleep with a senior citizen? It'd probably be the biggest workout of your life. I really hope you don't pursure any kind of relationship with these young girls. Nothing else comes to mind but... yuck.
I'd think you were her dad if I saw the both of you in public honestly, but other than that i wouldnt really mind it, idk bout other people tho haha
You cannot legally have sex with a 16 year old girl. She could have sex with someone 4 years older than she is, but in order for you to have sex with her, she would have to be 18.

www.ageofconsent.com
Frankly? I don't give a damn. It's legal. I think under 18 is considered "jailbait" whether or not it actually lands you in jail. (For the slang term). It's called JailBAIT because, to be honest, women sort of get less attractive past a certain point, and it's certainly looking quite attractive. I certainly don't know any forty five year old women who are attractive. I know some who have aged alright but look awful compared to their youthful prime. So he's 48. You find that disgusting, but that's you. You obviously won't be hitting on any 48 year olds. Biologically, young women are wired to seek out older males. Notthatinnocent, by his area's law, he's allowed to mess with young girls. I think it's crude of you to presume that he cannot find people his own age. Granted I am young and for now attracted to people my own age, but I've heard it's really really common for men, as they age, to remain attracted to younger women. For all we know he's had plenty of offers but (like me) just isn't interested in someone who's already hit menopause.

I'm not slamming women. And frankly, a man that old knows more about how to treat a young lady than someone her own age, and is less likely to get her hurt. I'm not saying it's right or something I'm going to do, or even something I support. Either way, I probably shouldn't have touched this with a ten foot pole.
The age difference is pretty big to get around and you'd just look like an old fool.
No, your prolly an idiot. lol
Anywhere under 18 is too young, given the fact that you're nearing 50.
You obviously don't have children of your own, otherwise you wouldn't be having these thoughts in the first place.
But just for a moment, imagine you have a 15 or 16 year old daughter, and think about how you would feel if she was screwing a 48 year old man.
Not only is the age a factor in this, but you mentioned that you're a volunteer?
You, as a volunteer, still owe a duty of care to the people you are working with. You are supposed to protect these girls, not take advantage of them.
And that's what it would be if you made any kind of advance on any one of these girls. You would be taking advantage of someone much younger than you who is much less experienced and is not capable of making adult decisions.
Wow, when I was 16, a 30-year-old guy looked like a dinosaur to me, and a man your age was simply like grandpa... I would offer to help them cross the street, like a good scout! You are two years from getting your AARP card! Lol! (Oh, wait, let me spell that out: lol = laughing out loud. You might want to learn these things if you are looking to impress girls who are to generations younger than you are.)

Anyway, I think you are reading the signs wrong. There is no way that teenage girls find an old fart like you attractive. Sorry, but even at 24, if I just think about a 48-year-old man's hairy a** and saggy b***s, I feel like puking!

Plus, you are a librarian? I mean, if you were some high-power exec, maybe you could get some young girls (golddiggers,) but most women would think twice before sleeping with the librarian even if they were in their 40s themselves.

Jeez, grandpop, wake up and smell the roses!
I think you should do it because it might end up preventing you from going on a homicidal murder.
Even if it doesnt work out you for you, dont do anything drastic!
The only thing that's remotely satisfying about this is seeing if you "still got it" which it sounds like you may so that's all you need. I wouldn't pursue it any further. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Girls always want what they can't have... They don't think they can have you so they want you of course, You're a good looking OLDER man. Once you show that you're taking everything literal they may be a little freaked out bro.
obviously a guys gonna be turned on by a hot 16 year old girl, but what the f***? don't pursue ANY relationship because you will look foolish to everyone. Consider your family! what would they think of this? what would her family think of this? please don't ruin a child
I'm 32 and was dating a 16 year old last year. It wasn't normal, actually it was amazing. What's even better is that I didn't go killing people afterwards!
Men who go out with drastically younger women disgust me. It is normal for you to be attracted to them? Yes, but that doesn't make it okay for you to act on it.
By now we all know who this was. Sad. Sad that this man who had it all seemed so alone and afraid to go on and then to take it out on women. I have personally learned from this and hope what he left for us can help learn how to spot and help ppl like himself before it happens again. hate him all you want, and the lives he took was so tragic but he left the best clues yet to spot ppl like him and maybe stop them. A little human caring might have save him and his victims. From this, we must learn or we have no right to codemnn.
BTW I want to add this, some girls at this age are attracted to older men, maybe loss of a fahter, who knows, and this sort of thing happens a lot in some countries but normally not in our country Had women known he was rich, he left a lot of money to Pitt Univ. he may have had better luck but he wanted ppl to like him for him. As for why he did not go to ahooker, he was a religous man. SOme guys cannot even go that route not matter what. You might as well ask them to turn gay. Not even a chance.
There's a lot of condemnation to be garnered from people who don't understand. Don't worry too much about them, they're closed minded and generate their own opinions about you without knowing you in any way. That said, here's how I feel about your situation.

For two people to make each other happy is a wonderful thing. That wonderful thing is not, however, dependent upon the opinions or perceptions of anyone else besides those two people. If you like this girl and she likes you, that's what counts.

You need to be aware that if you follow through with this, there will be pressure on the both of you from other people and it may be difficult to handle. Just because you can, doesn't necessarily mean she'll be able to hold up, or the other way around. But if you can make it work, it will be a life enriching thing.

The age difference, well that's only an issue if you let it become one. Personally, I couldn't care less what age, race, nationality, or religion either of you might be. If you're both happy and neither is taking advantage of the other, companionship and love are exactly that: companionship and love.

To answer the father point of view question, I'd treat an older man the same way I'd treat a man the same age. I'm cautious and I don't like you until you change my mind. It's really that simple.

So to answer your question, there will always be someone that has a problem with how you live your life, regardless of what you do. Don't live for them, live for you. You've got my vote.
Good advice, but it's a bit too late. The OP committed suicide after he went on a homicidal rampage.
They like you because you point the way to the Twilight books...

But really, I doubt they like you in any kind of sexual way. You're just a nice old man and fun to be around. The point of the age difference is that those girls have their whole lives ahead of them. There are some things they need to learn on their own--and from their own age group.

Listen to an old soul like me. Though very young, I am filled with the vast wisdom of my past lives which I vaguely remember.
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YES THAT IS WRIERD AND WRON IN SO MANY WAYS!!
DO YOU REALIZE THE AGE DIFFERENCE WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU!!!!

YOU JUST WNAT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOUNG VULNERABLE GIRLS YOU CREEP!!

IF I WAS ANY OF THOSE GIRLS FATHERS I WOULD TRY TO LITERALLY KILL YOU SICKOO!!

FIND PEOPLE YOUR OWN AGE YOU FUCKING UGLY WEIRDO!!!

WHY DONT YOU GO FUCK YOURSLF!!!!!!

GO TO HELLL!!!!
Some might say this man is guilty of moral turpitude.

Moral turpitude is a legal concept in the United States that refers to "conduct that is considered contrary to community standards of justice, honesty or good morals."

So based on the previous responses, this is not normal to a normal community by a factor of 73% against it. BUT is it unjust, dishonest or against moral standards? That would depend on the State you reside in. The age of consent in Arkansas is 16. 14 if the person is not more than 2 years older than the victim.

Lets also not forget that community standards are often more strict in some communities than others. Take for instance in the Southern Bible belt State of Texas, you would be taking your life in your hands if you had sex with someones 16 year old daughter. So beware because they hit what they aim at in Texas.

Where as in some cities such as Detroit Michigan you might find that more citizens are more liberal and open about such age differences since they are ranked as the most liberal city in America.

I find the argument to be very ambiguous because who sat down and figured out at exactly what age we all become adults. I know that at age fourteen I was driving a brand new chevy camaro, I was responsible and I was not having sex with anyone even though girls my age were offering to me on a regular basis.

Some people mentally age better than others and are able to handle relationships better. I was super responsible at 14 but I still needed parental guidance from time to time. I am 58 now and my mother is deceased but I still welcome my dads advice. I see little difference between fourteen and now in the need for moral support.

I think if a young person finds an older person attractive then they should talk to their parents or peers about it first and decide for themselves if they can handle it.

I cannot see this as a right or wrong issue since the age of consent laws appear to be leftovers from biblical times when the women were more property than equals. Women were often married off at young ages in the hopes of getting a dowry for their family. Not much has changed except that the young women today often expect that an older man will be able to give them things their younger counterparts will not be able to provide. In the end it is a personal choice and people should mind their own business and leave others alone. Your moral are yours and other people's morals are their own. If the issue of age difference becomes a right or wrong issue let the young person be the one to complain.

I am tired of people always sticking their nose into other people's business as if they have all the answers. Most of the people here are simply expressing the views taught to them by their parents, and have put no thoughts of their own into this forum. Judging by the atrocious spelling there are many poorly educated people writing about things they don't understand.
I knew a fellow who was heir to a major fortune and lived in Palm Beach, Fl. At age 55 he married a 19 yr. old, and tossed aside his 37 yr. old girlfriend, whom he was "keeping up". All this is OK if you are rich and eccentric, but if you are an average Joe its a little kinky.

There are so many attractive women in the 30-40 yr. old age group, that I'm not sure why the interest in the teenie boppers. If you have a problem dealing with older, more sophisticated woman then I think you should take a good look in the mirror.
I hate the way people react to this kind of thing... so convinced that their narrow, contemporary perspective is infallible. For most of history, this kind of relationship was commonplace, even the norm. Do not allow yourself to be affected by other people's judgments sir, you will only regret it later. Walk down the street with your sweet, adorable young girl with pride. Respond to onlookers scowls with a smirk. They are just jealous. When people accuse and ridicule you, do not make excuses or justify yourself, just say "this is what I want to do." With confidence you will prosper.
I think you're normal. I am 47 and married to a 24 year old girl AND she lets me love her two sisters aged 18 and 16....I have had sex with the 18 year old but have only kissed the 16 year old. They love me for who I am and because I have money and I love them for who they are and because they are young and gorgeous.
If its legal then the choice is yours. Just don't expect their father to agree. I notice there are many who think it's disgusting in this post. I'll bet most are lonely 40/50 somethings who couldn't get laid to save their lives because guys like you just aren't interested in them.
I'm a girl in her early 20s and my peers are definitely legal... but dating a girl in my age range would still make you disgusting in my eyes.
I am a 19-year-old woman recently married, quite happily, to a 42-year-old-man. However, I consider our relationship to be out of the ordinary. My husband was my Dad's best friend from before I was born and I have known him all my life. His first wife died while I was still a child. We developed a friendship and a bond that eventually blossomed into romance. He was extraordinarily patient. He never asked anything of me that I considered inappropriate. He nearly always allowed me to take the initiative, yet always made me feel comfortable about it. We did have a period of time when our love was supposed to be secret, but when we publicly announced our engagement, we discovered that our family and his friends were so used to seeing us together that it didn't come as much of a surprise at all. My friends were envious.

However, I believe the likelihood of your being able to establish a long-term relationship with a young girl that you haven't already known for a while to be very, very unlikely. Society is uncomfortable with a large age gap. My husband and I do get stares and snide remarks from strangers. I think you would feel very out of place if you were the only older adult among a group of her friends, just as she would feel awkward in a group of just people your age. As has already been mentioned, you would probably find it difficult to connect or bond in any significant way.

Yes, you might somehow be able to negotiate a clandestine tryst with a young girl who got a crush on you (in which case I would seriously question her character and maturity), but it would almost certainly end badly. You might even be courting bodily harm, if a father, brother, or jealous boyfriend got involved.

But I won't dash all your hopes. There is one thing you could try if you still have the desire, along with some resolve and fortitude. You could work on just being a friend, nothing more, to a young girl. Don't expect to get her into bed; don't even touch her! Just be her friend, allow her to bring you into her crowd, and introduce her to your family and friends in situations that have other teens present. Girls like men who care about them. Over time, something *might* develop. More likely, though, societal norms will eventually push her to connect with someone her own age.

Frankly, I think it would be a better investment of your time and energy to find someone just a little closer to your own age. There are 35-to-40-year-old women who would be quite content with a man your age. Any single librarians in that age range?
I heard from a reliable source that .It meens a 16 year old is legally old enough to have sex ,period .Not with someone older then 19 in some states 17 ect.
It doesn't meen someone in there 20s 30s 40s or older legally can can have sex with a 16 year old.That is still 18.
I quote you "They are beautiful young flowers".

Yes exactly. Leave them alone. Allow them to bloom and blossom without your interference. These lovely young blooms are naive, despite their apparent flirting they are still very young mentally and emotionally, still even physically, although they may look developed. If you had a young daughter and she told you she had slept with a man over 30 years her senior how would you feel?

My mother always told me your first sexual experience should be something beautiful and special. I was lucky that it was, I was 20 when I lost my virginity, note to a man almost 20 years older than me.. but we loved each other dearly and although it did not work out, we are still very good friends. And I was old enough at 20 to make the choice to give him the special gift of my virginity. This should be the same for these girls.They are entitled to a special first time. Don't rob them of this special gift with your selfish hormonal, semi-paedophilic desires!
I'm a woman, aged 40, but everyone thinks I'm early twenties until I tell them... lucky me huh? Whatever my age or how I look, whether I was a man or a woman, I'd agree.. this is very strange.... quite disturbing actually. I also remember a really old guy hitting on me when I was like 12/13 and touching me and trying to get me to get into his car with him.... this kind of attraction to very young girls is questionable indeed...
Lol, my boyfriend is 25 :0D
@: qwertyu
In the UK we call people like you paedophiles and we lock you away..
teenage girls are allll dumb
i know because i am one and you probly really dont wanna go there! and besides the whole meeting the parents thing is completly out of the question

but if she's for it and your for it, and theirs no issues with the law, f*** what everyone else thinks lmao
hahhaha what a way to live :DD
yoohs a playaaa, props.
No, a 48-year old dating a teenager is not normal. Not only would it seem disturbing to the people around you, but I'd think that you'd also not get a fulfilling relationship with the teenager..with the differing interests and current life concerns and whatnot.

May I have your IP, sir?
What could you possible have in common with a young girl? You are just looking to boost your ego. Quit thinking with the little head and grow up. If you really want to be with a young girl consider a 21 year old at least you can legally get her drunk first.
Legal standing as an adult starts at 18 in most countries, so enough of this backwards US measuring stick of 21. Thats not the typical benchmark in western nations. You can legally take someones life or have yours taken if you join the military and can be tried as an adult to the full extent of the law with no considerations on your age at 18, but somehow when it comes to a teenage girl being allowed the full experience of her sexuality with an older man we draw the line? lol.

Having said that, its completely nobodies business but the 2 parties involved. A person will be challenged by lifes ups and downs and whether ones life is full of turmoil and hardship and anothers isnt. The laws of man are not absolute. Nature overrides them all in some way shape or form. People here expousing their conditioned truths, sicken me. Because they only speak from their bubble wrapped politically correct standpoint. However they dismiss the panoroma of what life is really all about. And that is experiences, good bad or ugly they are all valid.

If I had a daughter who brought home a 50yr old man, and I saw it was a sincere bond, I would not be any more judgemental than if a snotty nosed teen walked in wanting to empregnante her. In fact I would at least be relieved the older man has more sense. In recent history it was frowned upon when a girl would date a guy her age, but smiled upon if she chose a lawyer or doctor as her chosen guy with good moral standing. How things change in less than a century. Thanks to this consumerist world we now live in filled with pop culture falsehoods.
here here, marcopolo!
I had an affair w/a 16 yr old when I was 37! She had the body of a 21 yr old model and the maturity to go along with it, she seduced me and I happily took her up on the offer the realationship lasted for quit a while. I think the people I believe are saggy old women that are "Full of Dust" if you know what I mean are simply jealeous and I doubt thhey would throw a Chip and Dales Model out of their bedroom. in the old days it was completely normal for a 13 yr old girl to marry and start a family. It is a society issue IMO and the ones that bitch about are recentfull when they look in the mirror at all of the sagging does Green come to mind You Old Hags. BTW do any of you women that have a problem with an older man having a sexual encounter w/a younger women of age have any daughters, I would be happy to oblige thier sexual desires. So go put on you stuffy Corset HAGS!!!!
Sorry for all the typos I just woke up, and the 21 yr old hotty almost made go blind last night, I looked in the mirror this morning and found her missing thong underwear rapped around my head. I guess a the conversation has prompted me to over them back to her under 1 condition!!!
seriously you old fudy duddys pay more attention to Lawrence Welk that is if he is not to "Racey" for you.......... LOL
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In Most States 16 is capable of consentual sex.
I am going to speak as a spokeswoman for all the sixteen year olds out there: we aren't that immature, we aren't that innocent... but if this isn't consentual then there is something definitely wrong.
I don't see why it's so amoral for someone older to go out with (and oerhaos sleep with) someone who's much younger than them... up until the late nineteenth century it was perfectly acceptable for things like this to happen. But yes, the world is corrupt anyways... however, just like 'grown-ups' (a term I will use VERY loosely) not all teenagers are innocent.
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well i have lived a long time,,, and i have seen that all older men look at younger women and think about sex with them, if u say no not me i will call u out. there is way to much naked young ladies running around in life on tv in mag, on line and men when they see sweetness they get excited. and we all know what comes next, i believe in the bible men married young women when they became women some get that bloody thing at age 13 so i think everyone is confused and ignorant in this world really,,,, what happen to respect.
I am 41 and my gf is 18 soon 19. We met through a dating site but not to date. She is a musician and offered to play in my band, and her profile said she was 28. I was smitten by her and didn't realise she was 18 for a couple of days after meeting..
I was quite concerned early on about opinions, and worried to meet her family.
I was shocked to discover them all quite open and accepting owing to my gf's wild childhood, no one was surprised by this latest.
Now almost a year together, her grands came to my grandmas funeral recently, they came to support. I mean, how kind and accepting.
We are not the norm, and there are many challenges but we may get married yet, we remain very much in love and the sparks are still flying after having passed thru much in the past year.
I don't think this could work for all.
I am almost 20 and my bf is 42. We are completely in love and met accidentally. We have been together for almost a year, however, I do agree with SSdMM, its not for everyone since it is such a difficult relationship. But I say Hey, if your happy, and you make her happy, then thats all that matters. :)
You will likely not believe this, but not my problem. I am 48 and dating a 20 year old. She's a second year medical student so she's not an idiot, in fact she's a lot smarter than I am (where I live you enter med school directly out of high school and it's a 7 year program). She's from a good family, so she's not it in it for the money. Why does she love? Beats me! But she does and I love her. We see judgmental people all the time and they just make us smile! We are lucky (particularly me) and the rest of the world can take a hike!