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I hate christians
What a bunch of fools.
They plan out their entire lives, according to rules set by a kooky, ancient book of mythos.
And hey, dontcha just love how they ever-so-conveniently excuse themselves from providing proof, by using crutches like "faith".
Sorry, but just because you believe something, that doesn't make it true.
Moses turned the sea into blood... and then later, parted it?
Yeah... and sweat socks fly south for the winter.
Ask yourself... "If somebody told me such an event had taken place TODAY, would I believe it?". No? Point proven.
Ignorance is a scary thing.
They plan out their entire lives, according to rules set by a kooky, ancient book of mythos.
And hey, dontcha just love how they ever-so-conveniently excuse themselves from providing proof, by using crutches like "faith".
Sorry, but just because you believe something, that doesn't make it true.
Moses turned the sea into blood... and then later, parted it?
Yeah... and sweat socks fly south for the winter.
Ask yourself... "If somebody told me such an event had taken place TODAY, would I believe it?". No? Point proven.
Ignorance is a scary thing.
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@ Tim Swain: OMGZ! waaat? You have outwitted me with your baseless accusation!!!
everybody with half a brain or more knows that.
You're not a real christian, anyhow. You date a lesbian. No TRUE christian would do such a thing.
Atheists believe the world was created from a big explosion. Then Life just appeared from this explosion. Over years we just kept changing until we got to how we are today. What makes that more crazier than the other religious beliefs?
The truth is we will NEVER know how the world was created; everything is theory. Whether it was made by a superior form, or it was created by accident, or maybe not one of the human theories have even came close to the truth. The only people who are ignorant in this scenario are the people who say any idea is out of the question.
judging from the timescales the sun works in, and in the certainty it has been shining for immense amounts of time.
Including all the fossil records we find all over the planet, showing the evolution of species, it is impossible to deny that life on planet Earth has been evolving for hundreds of millions of years.
Knowing so, and then picking up a book which claims the opposite(the bible),
makes every intelligent person take the idea of the book out of the question.
Thats not due to ignorance but to intelligence and knowledge.
The major reason people tried to believe this was its threat "if you dont believe this crap then youll burn in hell forever".
Which off course was a message that was ment to come from a "good" god.
How dumb is that?
Mimir2, arguing with devout Christians - that their religion is fake - is pointless. Same as trying to force your beliefs onto someone else. Instead, we should be trying to put our beliefs aside and attempt to unite as a community, society and world.
We do know that.
All the fossil records prove it, and so does the age of the sun and the information we pass down to our children and how we are ripe to evolve and are doing so as we have different characteristics and they are inherited down to our children. Meaning the characterstics of us as a species is changing infront of our very eyes. And judgingt from the age of this world there is room for virtually infinite evolution, both in our past and into our future.
But off course if you just say "No".
Then there wont be much in the way of discussion, but thats not because of lack of evidence or ability to rule out suggestions how everything came about but rather due to unwillingness to discuss the issue and use our god given brains.
Care to prove this? All your doing is following things other people have said. You have absolutly no proof of any of this; the same way no one can prove Christianity or other religions are true. As far as you know the world isn't even round. Have you ever been into space and looked down on it for yourself or have you only seen images that were given to you by others.
You cant say "Thats not due to ignorance but to intelligence and knowledge" because none of this knowledge is your knowledge, it's just what you have chosen to believe because others gave you the theories.
It will take 4 BILLION years for it to finish its fuel.
The immense timescales the sun works in makes 4000 years the equivalent of a fraction of a second.
And therefore the probability of it starting to shine just 4000 years ago, having 4 billion years to go is extremely slim.
"All your doing is following things other people have said. You have absolutly no proof of any of this; the same way no one can prove Christianity or other religions are true."
Sure, all of human civilization might as well be a gargantuous hoax where everything we think we know is just a lie made up by one guy or another.
The fossil records were never there, their existence were just made up by some anti-religous guys.
And C14 dating doesnt really work and everybody that has tested it(large number of universities) has joined the mega-conspiracy circle enveloping the planet making sure we science guys continue to be in the dark.
Sure, it might be the case.. sure.
The way i believe the fossil record is there is not the same as the way religious people believe the bible.
For the fossil records not to have been there requires a conspiracy against every thinking human being on the planet at such an immense scale and with such an immense incentive for anyone realising its fakeness to blow it away that it would never work.
I havent chosen to believe anything.
I come to conclusions basing it on what makes sense.
Im just saying we shouldnt be listening to bullshit like much of the bible.
2 billion believe.
4 billion dont.
=> believers loose and god ceases to exist.
But off course this logic is false, for what people believe does not change the laws of the universe, or god for that matter.
And besides, christian believers are nowhere near 2 billion.
On the surface, sure, but if you start talking to a random selection of people labelled as christians youll find that so many of them dont believe that stuff at all.
Nice try, better luck next time.
When you mean god as in by the bible, say so.
Say the bible god.
When you mean god as in by the koran, say the koran god.
John Doe, what excactly is it that those 2 billion people are claiming or believing?
We are quite unsure of what you are trying to say.
Callo, you have hereby entered a logic where you are checking which religion is most popular and assuming the winner in that determines who is right.
Do you realise what a pile of crap such a claim is?
Want me to write that a couple more times to get through to you?
That even if they do believe in the same thing, that alone would never make them right.
Couple of questions for you. If you don't believe in God, cool. Your choice. If you hate Christians, ALSO cool, your choice there too.
But tell me this, why is it that folks like you, who don't believe in God or hate Christians, Feel The Need to belittle and degrade folks WHO do believe (or have found a faith that helps THEM get through this hard life)?
I mean, I don't like muslims much, character flaw, but I don't go out of my way to degrade them.
I can understand not believing in God, but is it really neccessary to hurt folks who do? Is it that you are simply one of those people who ENJOYS doing all you can to hurt others?
And if you Don't believe in God, what do you use to come to grips with your own morality? Just a "Whatever *I* want to do is alright" attitude?
If so, cool, but then if someone Else out there decides to physically hurt, rape, malign or demean You, you don't have much room to complain then, do you?
Hey, I am not trying to convert you, and I am not picking a fight. I just want to understand where you're coming from.
With respect,
Tobra
@ callo: You're a complete idiot herd conformist. The popularity contest argument isn't worth the TP you wipe your bum with.
@ October/Tobra: How do you define "morality"? Good & bad are simply a matter of individual opinion. Usually, it works like this: "I don't like (insert whatever here), therefore it is bad" & "I like (insert whatever), therefore it is good".
What I am doing here is practicing my FREE SPEECH, just as those manipulative christians do, when they come to my door and attempt to convert me, and rarely take no for an answer, when I tell them I'm not interested in their abnormal beliefs. However, unlike those freaks, I don't go door-to-door and try to force THE TRUTH on them. Why does everyone think it's ok for them to behave in such a fashion, but if someone like myself posts something like this on the internet, everyone gets their panties bunched? Talk about a double standard. Geeesh.
I plan on calling the police on the next brood that shows up at my house. I'll have them charged with harassment.
Telling someone to "shut up" is a part of free speech, you ignorant swine. They don't HAVE to follow my advice, ya know.
Geeesh... you're living proof that age does not always equate to intelligence.
What a mess!
Free speech means I or anyone else can say whatever the hell pleases me/them. If I tell someone to shut up, that is free speech. If someone tells me to shut up, that is free speech.
Free speech is only infringed upon when c*nts like you flag other people's posts, as opposed to just voicing your disdain for the topic.
Free speech is exactly what it sounds like, dumbass. There's no limits. It is only when ACTION is taken against someone (i.e. if I tried to MAKE someone shut up, by flagging their posts, like you) that it becomes threatened. Telling someone to shut up is NOT the same as MAKING them shut up. That is YOUR department, you f*cking cowardly hypocrite. Do you think I don't know how many people you have flagged? THAT is an attempt at censorship.
Now, get out of my sight.
Why don't you just let her fight her own battles? She's a big girl.
PS If you truly admire honesty, then you shouldn't have any complaints about my VERY honest opinion.
Run along.
Cuz..y'know, I'd be totally up for converting to Christianity if you let me in on a threesome. Just sayin ;)
@c*ckCrazyGirl4Life: Are you the person who asked this question? Because it doesn't look very much like a question at all, which makes it kinda hard to answer. Maybe something to think about for next time.
not only that! i eat my cereal with blood... so...
You said "There is no proof to back up the claim that christianity exists." There is also no proof to back up the claim that it does not exist. All the things written in the bible have never been truthfully disproven. Yeah there are people who may say that they "Disprove" certain things but those who have done extensive research with this book have found no contradictions. If you want to believe something, then go for it but do not ever attempt to disprove something with false information. Moses didn't turn the Sea to blood. God turned the water in Egypt into blood. One of the most well known Bible revelations in the world and you couldn't properly quote it. You'll probably give me some disrespectful and unmeaningful reply so I accept that. But hear this, until you get your facts straight about the roots of christianity and the actual evidence vs. no evidence debate, and learn to communicate to others and present a plausible argument without slandering everything they believe in stop posting stuff like this on the internet. Its pointless, Its a waste of bandwidth and it doesn't help anyone except you so you can reassure yourself that you are indeed superior because you can see the faults in a world renowned religion that you obviously haven't researched enough to be attacking.
"Ignorance is a scary thing"
Well considering how angry you seem and how happy about 95% of Christians seem I would say ignorance is bliss =)
On a final note Just because you dont believe something doesnt mean it isnt true. If you cant understand the complexity of my closing statement I apologize.
speaking of the POSSIBILITY (based on how i said "if i can't prove something is there, then i cannot argue its there. it doesn't mean its not there"), that would also mean its possible for there to be a god called beerdick in the form of a huge dick. he made us by fertilizing the land with semen. you disagree? you say it's not possible? then you, my friend, just contradicted yourself. if you don't see how you've contradicted yourself, then i must say, i don't blame you for being religious. your iq is too fucking low for it.
hope all you want. hoping someone grows up to be a failure is an obvious sign of jealousy. also, it seems people like to call anyone "better" than them "arrogant". if that is the case, you were being arrogant yourself by shownig off your "high" iq of 110. judging by your reaction to my higher iq, i highly doubt you "don't care". and about myself becoming a failure, i'm afraid for you that is not true. i am able to put up an argument with far less fallacies and contradictions compared to you. This alone gives me better chances, however slightly, than you of suceeding.
also, my arguments on this page alone should show you just how high my iq is. from the way you present your arguements, i can safely say that either your iq is lower than 110, or you have a severe temper/ego problem.
That thickhead logic could be applied to MANY ridiculous mythos. There's no proof that leprechauns don't exist, either. Oh well... THEY MUST BE REAL!
Wow, you're stupid.
Remember? Turn the other cheek.
it's like saying you like virgin pussy, but refuse to fuck one
But I do follow it, just not law for law, lots of laws are bullshit I find, it is a HUGE sin to wack off, but screw that Im not gonna stop.
I dont want to try and be a saint, I just beleive in it, I beleive almost everything because I was risen as a christian since like I was born so its embedded in my mind
The First Law of Thermodynamics (Conservation) states that energy is always conserved, it cannot be created or destroyed. In essence, energy can be converted from one form into another.
that is a LAW my friend. not your everyday law ofthe goverment, but a FACT. To deny a LAW of physics, gravity, or thermodynamics is simply stupid. you can't deny that gravity keeps you on the ground, and you can't deny that the laws of thermodynamics is real. so, according to the first law of thermodynamics, we CAN'T simply have been created by a greater being. the sun CAN'T have been created.
of course, this doesn't answer the question "how we came to be". if that is your arguement, then you are so desperate for an answer you would willingly believe a false one rather than to keep searching for the RIGHT one.
A person who completely denies his religion, but refuses to abandon it, is not truely denying his religion. If you TRUELY accept science at it's best, one cannot truely believe god nor creationism and the same time as science.
Also, I respect your opinion that I cannot beleive in science and catholosim at the same time, but I have to disagree, Id say they meled together in some ways, if you are christian, then you belive God created all, and Humans are learning as we move on in life and discovering new things, which much of it we call science, at least thats my beleif, every christian has their own beleif in everything, like everyone else, and thats mine, for now anyways.
i recommend a VERY good read, "the god delusion" by richard dawkins, a professer of science at oxford university.
now, i can see that the debate is coming to an end. i can show a man the path to take, but i cannot force him to do it. when the only factors left is child influence and family pressure, logic will most likely be uneffective. for many, the love of their family means more than the truth itself. of course, like the saying, ignorance is bliss. i respect your value of love from your family, so i will say no more after this. however, if they really love you, they should respect your own beliefs, like mine has. i will no longer post on this, unless another theist decide to post on this.
i wish you the best of luck, and hope you take the right path. i have given you all the advice, shown you all the logic i known so far. theres far more to know in the book i mentioned earlier, and i recommend it too all.
in this world, especially in america, atheists are muchly hated, and are treated as badly as blacks 50 years ago. Many educated personnel on the american counsil had to fake their beliefs in order to be elected. Considering america was founded by men stating that religion should never mix with politics, this country has become a disgrace to it's founders.
from the crusades to modern day racism against atheism, i can honestly say, religion has always been, and always will be, for as long as it exists, an interferance to the proper education of science, and according to your statement, your life. you may not notice it, but the older you get, the more you realise, how much religion has taken away from you. even though religion was taken out of the school education system, there are always presentations on the subject from many churches, and the kids ranging from kindergarden to high school are forced to listen. those kids know only to obey the teacher. they don't even know about religious freedom. to them, they have no choice. it is the same as forcing a child to become christian/morman/whatever religion.
i have experienced this myself when i was 8. i did not know i could leave at any time. and at the time, if a student tried to leave, the teacher would not allow it. i remember the great impact the bible they gave us and the words they gave us had on us. children that young, who does not even have the generally accepted, by science, and by the education system, the big bang theory, already being fed religion. why are children learning a hypothesis, or even a lie, before learning what is accepted by the scientific and educational community as a fact and truth?
those children are easily convinced and manipulated through complicated and hard-to-comprehend words of religion, and, due to human curiosity, every child is bound to have thought of the question, "how did we exist."
most parents would simply say, "you are too young", and leave the kids wondering. how grateful would the kids be, after all that time, to learn what they thought was "the truth"? they wouldn't even understand what a religion was. they'd think that it is the truth. once a child learns something, it is very difficult to change their minds. this is how religion is spread. once you tell a child, who wants nothing more than happiness, and to have fun, that by believing in god they will be forevermore happy, how will you ever convince them otherwise?
how is it that religion has ever been removed from schools? all of what i have written clearly shows, even though it is out of the official system, it is still part of the unofficial one, as a "school event". as long as the perverted hypothesis of creationism is in existence, kids will always be brain-washed by it. nowadays, you hear creationism everywhere. it is impossible to keep a child away from that. this is why, as atheists, we are always affected by religion, creationists, and theists.
thermodynamics is a LAW because NOTHING can work outside of it. many theists disagree, because they say god is omnipotent AND omniscient. well, i can already tell the people who invented this only had half a brain.
you see, for a being to be both omnipotent and omniscient is contradictory. it is a fallacy. it is a paradox, all in itself.
lets assume god is both omnipotent and omniscient. now, lets say that because hes omniscient, he knows exactly how hes going to intervene to change the world into its final stage using his omnipotence. but wouldn't that mean god is unable to change the "future", which he FORSAW using his omniscience? in other words, he can't change his own actions? wouldn't that mean he's NOT omnipotent? so, what if he COULD change the "future" he forsaw. wouldn't that mean what he forsaw earlier was invalid, and therefore proving hes not omniscient.
in this sense, "god" can only be omniscient OR omnipotent. however, a being with only ONE of these qualities isn't even defined as a "god". so you are left with two options.
option one, assuming god is only omnipotent. This would mean he created everything, but has morals as valid as you or me. he cannot see the future, nor predict what we will do. he cannot see every little dark thought we have. this means, he has no control over us. if he did, we are just dolls, without a choice. so why not just go kill yourself now?
now, option two, assuming god is omniscient. this is even worse. this would mean he did not create the universe, and cannot defy laws of gravity, thermodynamics, and etc. in this sense, he wouldn't even be omniscient, since it goes against science and the laws. this would also mean he would have to be created AFTER the creation of the universe, which invalids his very creation, due to the laws.
so, since option 1 pretty much disables god's ability to direct the world or affect us with "faith", this either means god is waiting for a time to just come down and show his face, and admit he can't know a thing.
or, he created the universe and retired after that, just existing without a goal or point, all the way through eternity.
or, there is no god, and all this is talk about the almighty is bullshit.
I'm a Muslim. Many believe that muslims have something against christians. Nah..! I dont mind them. they are just living their lives and they are the closest reliegion to Islam. Only with a difference that they believe in three, where as we believe in only one.
True, their books might be wrong. But the first ever book given to them were correct!
And dear, you got some facts wrong. Moses [ peace be upon him ] never changed the sea into blood. True, with a touch of a staff he divided into two in order to make a path for them to escape the swords of the infidel pharaoh who Allah drowned later.
In reality every prophet taught the same religion. But the later generations twisted it. Only Islam remained protected since its the last of them. And its real faith will remain protected to those who seek it with true hearts. End of the world is approaching, living Islam is becoming tough. But the smell of heaven is closer! =D
True girl, ignorance is a scary thing.. save your self and just think about everything and Islam. You will find that they aren't that bad after all. =D
PS: i dare you to read the Quran/Koran and think!
and plus.. check this out. Stop questioning, and just think! http://www.beconvinced.com/
so I guess you only mind the people who have a religion very different from Islam?
Also, millions of years?? Are you serious??
You've got to be kidding me. The Big Bang?? HAHA Don;t make me laugh. Honestly, what are the chances that a big explosion of chemicals made everything we are and everything that is and ever was. NOT LIKELY. I mean, for example, scientifically speaking, if the sun was 3 inches closer to us, we'd burn to death. However if it was 3 inches farther, we'd all freeze to death. Or how about the fact that every person is made unique. What are the chance that some big boom happened and made everything so perfect. I mean, I don't know about you idiots, but usually when i see chemicals explode, it usually causes a lot of destruction, not make things, much less things as perfect as humans, animals, plants, everything.
And evolution, hahahahahahahaha another lie. I will admit however small evolutions is visible, but not from tadpoles to humans. No. Not real. I mean if it is, why don't you see monkeys turning into humans now? You don't. As a matter of fact, on Darwin's deathbed, he admitted that darwinism or the evolution theory was a lie. He did it just to look smart in front of his peers.
Retard words=
1.Omniscient-having complete or unlimited knowledge, awareness, or understanding; perceiving all things.
2.Omnipotent-almighty or infinite in power
3.Omnipresent-present everywhere at the same time
Ok morons, what does that mean? It means God is not a human, he is not a spirit. He is a spiritual being. He's omniscient, he knows and understands everything. He's omnipotent, his power is limitless. And He's omnipresent, He's everywhere at all times. He is God. You just can't understand that because over the course of your entire lives, you are told what is and what isn't......HUMAN-wise. Humans cannot understand and know EVERYTHING. We do not have unlimited power. And we can't be everywhere at once.
So give up. He's there, and he's watching you, and one day when you're sitting at the gates of heaven hoping to get in, and you don't hear your name get called, you're gonna think, "I should have listened, and damn, it's getting hot."
Thanks.
i already explained god's little omnipotence omniscience contradiction. read it idiot. here, ill even copy paste it for you:
lets assume god is both omnipotent and omniscient. now, lets say that because hes omniscient, he knows exactly how hes going to intervene to change the world into its final stage using his omnipotence. but wouldn't that mean god is unable to change the "future", which he FORSAW using his omniscience? in other words, he can't change his own actions? wouldn't that mean he's NOT omnipotent? so, what if he COULD change the "future" he forsaw. wouldn't that mean what he forsaw earlier was invalid, and therefore proving hes not omniscient.
in this sense, "god" can only be omniscient OR omnipotent. however, a being with only ONE of these qualities isn't even defined as a "god". so you are left with two options.
option one, assuming god is only omnipotent. This would mean he created everything, but has morals as valid as you or me. he cannot see the future, nor predict what we will do. he cannot see every little dark thought we have. this means, he has no control over us. if he did, we are just dolls, without a choice. so why not just go kill yourself now?
now, option two, assuming god is omniscient. this is even worse. this would mean he did not create the universe, and cannot defy laws of gravity, thermodynamics, and etc. in this sense, he wouldn't even be omniscient, since it goes against science and the laws. this would also mean he would have to be created AFTER the creation of the universe, which invalids his very creation, due to the laws.
so, since option 1 pretty much disables god's ability to direct the world or affect us with "faith", this either means god is waiting for a time to just come down and show his face, and admit he can't know a thing.
or, he created the universe and retired after that, just existing without a goal or point, all the way through eternity.
or, there is no god, and all this is talk about the almighty is bullsh*t.
you get that? this is called UNDERSTANDING "god's power". and about the bible having so called proof. tell me more about it. there's tons of prove discrediting the book written by retards. i don't see any that actually PROVE it. evolution has way more proof than that little book. dog breeding already proved evolution possible. we just acted to speed it up.
they have ALSO replicated the beginning of life in a lab. they used massive amounts of radiation and heat for months nonstop. and in the end, the created SINGLE CELLED ORGANISMS. that means god didn't create life.
im sure a narrow minded person like yourself would be wondering, WHO CREATED THE BIG BANG? well for starters, theres no proof saying that it was created in the first place. it's possible that it was always there. besides, creating energy is AGAINST THE LAWS OF THERMODYNAMICS. don't know what it is? go check it out. don't give me shit about the laws being created by humans. without the laws of thermodynamics, we'd all be dead.
so lets say that the big bang was created somehow. what makes you so sure that it has to be a god? are you really that narrow minded? god isn't the default. gaps in history are not filled by god by default. keep an open mind, fool.
about proving the bible wrong, ill give yu a few ways right now. according to the bible, the universe was made 10000 years ago. no dinosaurs, no meteors, none of that. we have PROOF of fossils dating more than 10 million years before. how do we know how old a fossil is? carbon dating retard. unless you are blind, the dinosaur fossils are real. so why didn't the bible mention the dinosaurs? how did noah fit into a ship every species in the world, including dinosaurs? even if dinosaurs did not exist, noah would have to have travelled into north america to have all the species. and north america wasn't discovered until the 11th century by vikings.
doesn't that already disprove much of what the bible has to say? the old testament supported the ownership of women to men, killing of one's own children, and homosexuals, GOD'S OWN CREATION! that seem very much like a righteous god to you??
now, there's more. the DEVIL. if god is omnipotent, he can make the devil disappear and the world a perfect place with no downside, and make every being have faith in him, with a snap of a finger. why doesn't he do that? because he CAN'T? then he is not omnipotent.
now, the last contradiction for god that i will write today. there are alot more. pringletot2 can help me later, im too lazy today. consider the following:
you say that the world must be created. why? is it because all of us are so complicated? the position of the earth, all of that? it's just too magnicicent to happen by chance? well, for beginners, its not chance. ill explain anotehr day, im too lazy now. but ill just give you the advantage for now, and argue on the postulation that the world have to have been created by a greater being because it is too complicated and magnificent. well, a being who can create all this MUST be even more complicated and magnificent. that would mean "god" would ALSO have to have been created. so who created god? that being will also have to have been created, creating an infinite regress. instead, the big bang gets rid of that infinite regress. where did the big bang come from? we're not sure yet. however, we know there's an answer out there that does not involve the fallacies of a god, like i just showed you. remember, an unanswered question is not the same as a question answered by god. god is merely a false possibility out of many more unknown ones. since god is illogical and falliable, it is no longer even a possibility. if you are not satisfied by this, i will gladly post more. i have already contradicted the bible many times.
BUT, before i leave, i will tell you how the salt lady was made.
i have already proved the world to be more than just 10000 years old. now, fossils are basically imprints made of rock. there are different types of rock. one of them is SALT. there are countless salt rocks in the world, and eventually, one of them is bound to be reconizable as a "human being".
do you realize what you have just shown of yourself? you have shown that anything you do not know, you decide to blame god. how was the world created? gee, i can't answer that. why not just say god did it? i don't have to think too much to come to that conclusion.
ill get pringletot2 to come here and help you see light. when the person if stubborn, one is never enough. don't get me wrong, i can contradict everything you say to prove god. however, pringletot2 won't be very happy that i left him out of the action. what i have said today should already have proven to you that there IS NO GOD. if you still believe in that little falsehood called deity, then you are simply blind and stubborn, and no amount of truth will help you.
I completely agree with Wildchild there are a lot of things that don't exactly make sense I mean for one us being here, no god would create us seriously we have destroyed this earth a lot quicker than any animal could hope for. If god's power was infinite then why does he let his own planet to be destroyed by us? Why is there the devil where god could easily destroy him? Why does he allow many people to believe in other gods or no god yet he could easily change our thought without us even knowing? Answer because there is no god, or even if there is a god he seems to enjoy watchin us kill ourselves and fuck other peoples lives up.
That salt statue thing ever thought that 1) it could just look like a person coincidentally or 2) it was a man-made sculpture and then it had that story placed around it, this happens a lot when theres a building or sculpture and noone knows who built it.
Ok I'll humor you, there is a god, because you know its perfectly logical that Noah could spend 100 years building an arc, and he lived up to 950 yrs old, I mean who couldn't believe that???? Well still why does the great all powerful god test us here? he knows the future he can tell whether we would be good or bad, he could easily enough split it up before we're even born. Then there's no second chances, you fuck up once your paying for it for eternity, then there's us torturing and murdering each other and he sits back and watches us but doesn't do anything, plus we enslave people, we still do btw it is not over yet, why would he allow us to do that? Man he's a very nice and peaceful god now isn't he? the only reason for us to pray to him is out of fear, and fear is the worst reason to worship someone. If you hadnt guessed I was being sarcastic thru quite a bit of this.
Who could believe that we originated millions and millions of years ago as a very basic form of life and just adapted to fit our environment over time, so retarded (sarcasm again, I thought I might need to tell you that) and when those scientists made that amino acid using the theory of what earths atmosphere was made up of in the beginning of the planet, just after the big bang, that was just god right? he wanted us to think that we culd make life so he did it for us and never took the credit right? oh he is so generous. Ok I'm going to stop being sarcastic now, as many of you probably think I was serious there, even though I said I was being sarcastic.
You probably didn't need to read the last 2 paragraphs I was more of just wittering on, but oh well, if your reading this u probably already read the others.
Well Ok, serious again. WE have proved that the earth is more than 10,000 years old, and if that is wrong what stops other parts of the bible and the word of god from being wrong. The big bang theory, well there could have been billions of big bangs and eventually one of them would hold give us the right stuff to support life, plus there are loads of planets throughout space take that stuff into consideration and it's not exactly surprising that there is life on at least 1 planet. In fact if there is too much gravitational pull of the universe it all collapses down back into one single dot, so small you can hold it in your hand, and then wat happens after that happens? you guessed it, another big bang, but this time all the atoms of everything are in a different order so the universe is completely different this time around. The universe might be perfect this time around and stop expanding while still being able to support life, it could have too little gravity pulling at the corners of the universe, which means it will expand so much that everything will be too far away from anything for there to be any light shone on earth, let alone there being enough heat for us not to freeze to death. Or there can be too much gravity pulling it down (as I mentioned above.)
If you think that the big bang just can't of come into existence on it's own then how did god come into existence on his own? and if god could then why can't the big bang have used all the gasses and shit to make the large expansion of the universe all by itself?
Anyway I hav to go now so I can't write any more, hopefully you understood most of what I was saying, I think I jumped around a lot there and didn't make much sense but I've never been good at writing.