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Dogs and Death
I have a story to tell you. My teacher has a friend he met after college. They were both divorced (the person he met was a girl)and lover of dogs. They both got to know each other well and became friends. Then one day she told him a very touching story to him. She said that she regularly has dogs and animals at her parents farm. Well the one dog had so many puppies that she couldn't feed some at all. She knew some pups would die within weeks because of starvation. Then she went on to say that the way to bring on the inevitable was to drown the dogs in the lake (ones who were unfit to be fed). She figured it was the right thing to do because they would've died of starvation so she wanted the misery of them to end quickly and mercifully. She put them in a bag and drowned them unfortunately. Is this normal to think its okay because she didn't want them to suffer or is it not normal because of the horrible way she killed them?
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Comments (18)
The smart thing would've been for her to have given the dogs away to someone that could indeed take care of them.

How is drowning less pleasant to starvation? Sure, it takes less time, but the struggle to breath can't be very pleasant.

Drowning an animal is still suffereing for them. Jeesh.
It is very difficult to raise a puppy from the time when it is born to the time it is naturally weaned. Although I think drowning is probably a very unpleasant way to die, I may agree with the general idea of humanely putting them down.
Having so many puppies may have lead to all of them going hungry, rather than a few, so maybe it was better for the mother and all the puppies.
Stargirl
The problem is that you are thinking in idealistic terms, not realistic. A farm is often secluded, and there are not many poeople willing to constantly feed, train, wean, excersize, and clean a newborn puppy.
Euthanizing animals is much more humane than drowning, in my opinion, but it can be very expensive and sometimes is even unavailable.
Again, you are being idealistic. Its a matter of opiniom whether you believe that what the woman did was horribly wrong, or perfectly reasonable. Its normal to think either way.
desexing the dog would have been a good move. drowning is too hard next time put them in a hessian sack and attatch it to the exhaust of a car this is a quick and painless death
People kill puppies and kittens by drowning them ALL THE TIME. Get used to reality.
stargirl shut the fuck up
I care... but I am realistic and practical. I don;t live in a fantasy world where all is fair and good.

"It is NOT unrealistic to expect people to respect other forms of life than human and to allow them to live by using the resources we ALL have at our disposal allow them to keep their lives."

Three words in response to that silly paragraph: Yes is it
Stargirl you mistake me in your idealistic floudering. I would never accept personally drowning as a solution- it is not in my nature. But I know that other people put animals on a scale well beneath humans - beings of the same species generally treat their own members much differently than they would outsiders.

Expecting people to "respect other forms of life than human and to allow them to live by using the resources we ALL have at our disposal allow them to keep their lives" may be morally right-

but it is unrealistic to expect mot people to hold these ideals. At least the woman had some mercy in her reasoning, no matter how much it repulses you.
"it IS realistic of me to expect a woman who lives on a farm to try and find other ways than drowning puppies to take them off her hands."

It makes barely a difference where the person lived, in fact, I think it would be more difficult outside a city. You live in an area where everyone treats their animals as human? I find that hard to believe, especially in a rural community.

You made a bunch of silly statments that I think are amusing. My favorite is "ANYONE who will do this to puppies will do this to humans. She's just as bad as any other abuser or humans or animals, and she should be arrested for killing these animals."

heh... no comment necessary
it's a farm! feed them cow milk or somehting, god, are alll farmers stupid or something?
I am not saying that what she did was right. I am saying that it does not make her a bad person. I can understand it though I would never do it myself. Perhaps what she did was ignorant, but she is not a bad person. The ASPCA puts animals down all the time, shelters put down animals all the time.
You don't even know her personal circumstances and yet you are holding her to the standards you made for yourself. Saying she is a danger to society is naive and a bit extreme.
"If you don't respect animals, how in the world do you ever expect them to respect you? "

I doubt animals have the same concept of "respect" as we do. You act like animals are little fuzzy people. This is not the case, whether you like it or not.
I know alot about animals, thank you very much, and I do respect them. I don't quite think "respect" is applicable to animals and the way they interact with humans. I know if you mistreat an animal you are an asshole and are probably morally doing wrong by most people's standards.
What I do not see here, is how the woman is a danger. She didn't put animals on the same level, not particularly should she. Saying she is a danger is a leap that I think has more to do with your personal opinions rather than morality in general.
Uh...

"ANYONE who will do this to puppies will do this to humans. She's just as bad as any other abuser or humans or animals, and she should be arrested for killing these animals.

She deserves to have her head held underwater until she's an inch from death and she'll see just how horrible her actions were. "
dont go back on yourself lol
"ANYONE who will do this to puppies will do this to humans"

That is saying she was a danger. There is no point in arguing if you are just going to run in circles lol
lol shavemeslowly did you just win a debate with stargirl??????? my gosh you are miraculous!!!
A question: do you have issues with me trying to shoot animals with pointy sticks?
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