God and his disciples

lol I went to a jewish private school for 8 1/2 years, became obsessed with evolution and atheism, until the principle finally "suggested" I leave.

To the OP. People call us "non-believers" Well I do believe, in the incredible reality of the universe. I believe things as beautiful as hummingbirds and the Cats Eye nebula can occur in nature. I don't need a creator.

The correct answer to your question of who created God, is who created the infinitely small point of pure energy that the universe supposedly formed out of? It works both ways. You state that something can't come out of nothing and therefore God cannot exist, but I can state that something cannot come out of nothing and therefore the universe couldn't have just suddenly happened. There is no argument there, because there is no material to argue with. I'll just have to go on believing what I want to believe and you can go on believeing what you want to believe.

Kill the infidels!

Kill the killers of infidels.
SIEG HEIL!

I don't think that the workings of the universe can be understood by casual human thought- People need to have a point of origin, and a point of ending. If the universe is as complex and wonderful as it still seems to be, then I doubt it will have these things.

Here's a sample of what believers can come up with to explain the existence of GOD :

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y4yBvvGi_2A

I hope that it's a joke, if not, it's pretty pathetic... :)

That's funny too (you must watch it completly) : http://youtube.com/watch?v=pgvMh7YjJr4

Hahaha the first one... that man is retarded. I surely hope that he is joking, or else he is a complete and total idiot.

The second one... I love it.

Fuking scary... http://youtube.com/watch?v=sCtaP-QJ9AI

Scarier... http://youtube.com/watch?v=MdK1ug1S8Gs

Pathetic... http://youtube.com/watch?v=C89mibeCRL8

Even worst... http://youtube.com/watch?v=7UWIb4FwHPg

THE ZENITH OF SADNESS AND STUPIDITY : http://youtube.com/watch?v=6RNfL6IVWCE

Who's stupid enough to think that this is a debate... an atheist video, sometimes paused and commented (disproved) by a christian... The way of the weak... http://youtube.com/watch?v=Dic5usfQwx0

Pathetic...

Refreshing... http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZxlEnlbUYsM

you are an idiot and no it is not normal to be one.

...We have "proven" that you can not simply make matter or destroy it. It is always there, it may change forms but its still the same amount. so the real question is, who or what has the power to create matter? B.T.W. dont always believe books i.e. Angels and demons. Math can explain everything up to a point. that point being the "big bang". So yet another question is how, out of nothing, did something just explode? although there is the eternal question who created god?and is he real? It is what you choose to believe. Hopefully one day all of these questions can be answered fully.

p.s. This is a Christian writing this

btw we have also "proven" that everything in nature has a opposite, so whats the opposite of matter? Anti-matter. So if anti-matter is real and there is the same amount of it as regular matter why isn't the universe exploding? Could some power be keeping the anti-matter in check? or can this also be explained by math and science?

The last time the universe collapsed it exploded again in a "big-bang"
it has done this an unconceivable number of times, Thus it is really the "Big-Banging". It wil keep doing this until we get Doom-Metal Just right. And so it the universe may end when the next Celtic Frost Cd comes out.
Or
If GOD is all powerful, then he is all power(energy). Energy and mater can be equally exchanged. Thus, God Is everything, Thus I AM GOD !

Who's to say that that origin of the universe isn't simply beyond the current (or even ultimate) extent of human understanding? The idea that science can't explain the development of something from nothing shouldn't bring us immediately to the conclusion that "God did it". Conversely, we can't prove conclusively that God DIDN'T do it.

There's always the possibility that matter was just always here. Simply because we cannot comprehend such a theory, because we have never experienced it, is no valid reason to insist that it can't be true.

That said, people should be allowed to have their own beliefs. There are always numerous sides to any debate involving religion. While people have faith, I don't think there will ever be a conclusion.

The whole point of God is FAITH. If we can prove that God exists then we have proved that he doesn't!

Hmmm, WTF seems to be the question.Answer is ,who cares where we came from, who cares where we are going.The point is we are here and we cant change that fact.So while we are on this plain of existence, why not make the best of it?Seems logical to me but make your own decision, dont forget Free Will.

Better to believe and have nothing there than to not believe and find out there is. Because then it is too late!

And there's more than 10 000 different beliefs out there (and they all contradict each other's).... so you want us to play at the heaven's lottery?.. No thanks, religions are lies and we have more than enough proofs to back that statement...

heathen i believe in god exept this one time when my uncle was playing with my feet and he licked them and i got a fungus and sores and i had to go to the hospital and they asked me how i got the sores and i had to tell them that my uncle licked my feet. My dad was ok with it he said it happens but my mom was so angry she filed for divorce and slept with my uncle the perve so my dad killed himself
then i thought there was no god but then i realized i still have my mom, my toes and my uncle who sometimes likes to have sex with my feet but you know i have grown to like it he is like my dad who occasionally likes to fuck my feet so there is a god but you are going to hell for denying him repent!

lol you're a boy or a girl?

lmao

@:Menthro

I like your debate here and well you need to look at an atom more closely to understand!

Protons and neutrons are made of three quarks each. Quarks have properties with names like up, down, color, flavor, truth, beauty and charm. They also carry a charge of 2/3 and -1/3 of a proton's charge, so two 2/3 quarks combined with one -1/3 make a proton, and one 2/3 with two -1/3s make a neutron.

That's one version, anyway. Physicists are now poking around at an even smaller level than quarks in the latest attempt to unify the four forces of nature and have come up with several types of string theory as possible explanations.

Strings are supposed to be one-dimensional things that vibrate in ten-dimensional space and are the fundamental components of everything. Physicists have hypothesized a smallest possible length - called the Planck length - and a smallest possible time - the Planck time, how long it takes light to travel the Planck length. If these things are real it means that space and time come in tiny chunks just like energy: there is no Planck length/2, for example.

Pretty strange concepts, however not as strange as assuming that things are infinitely sub-dividable. That leads to even worse paradoxes!

There are things we humans aren't supposed to know. Gods knowledge surpasses our minds.
Oh yeah: the blasphemy part u talk about... ur obveously talking to a chatolic priest there and no protestantic Christian.

God bless you all.
(yes, i'm a Christian)

God wasn't created, he always was. No one knows this real answer.

:P I belive in evolution and God, although I don't belive in natural selection but guided selection (the reason for this is irriducible complexity, which I still don't think has been adequetly disproved). Even if I did belive in natural selection, it wouldnt stop me beliving in God, but I would just view it as one of they ways god works. BTW its much easier (but isnt a good enough reason to belive it), to eplain how God exists than to explain how the universe just 'appeared' unless it extends and infinite amount of tim einto the past, which is sicnetificaly impossible and would undermine all our thinking as it is. The argument your referring to is called the First cause, or ontological argument (I think), and was argued by Aristotle long before Christianity. The argument is that NO ONE created God, because God is immovable and transcedent, and as an extra-dimensional concept/object is capable of existing infinetly, whilst everything in the Universe we know must have a start somewhere.