How can you not realise that God is a lie? I mean come on! You Christians actually believe that gold guys fly about playing the harp? How about some dude who lived 2000 years ago who could use The Force? You retards. The bible was heavily edited in the middle ages so the church could get you to do what they wanted or spend eternity in hell, but even prior to that it's purpose was to get wrongdoers to behave. And why do you believe this? Cos you've been brainwashed.
I won't go to hell cos it aint real.
Everyone wants to take religion out of America, christianity did not fly a plane through the twin towers, not all religion is bad. Taking religion out of our country is taking our traditions away and turning us into something we shouldn't be, sorry but that's just my opinion.
that what fucking bible are you reading, were does it say god is some golden guy flying around playing a harp (one of the ten commandments says that thou shal not creat idols, so how do you know what the image of him is)
and violent10dencey, no religion is bad. as each religion is seperate, having seperate communities, practices, and you should not judge it differently as you do not practise that religion.
the 'base' religion of most of the western world is christianity, it is what most country leaders want to believe as many think it is the best (but that has just been programed into our culture, from the 1800s when christianity ruled the world)
Last week I got down on my knees and asked God to help me with something heavy that I was going through. I felt God touch me, and I was filled with calmness and courage. From that moment on I have found the strength to cope with the situation because I know that God is with me. This has not been the first time in my life that I have experienced this.
This doesn't mean that I believe in the words of the bible or the fairy tales held within. They are all false. And yet, they are all true.
The presence of God has nothing to do with little silver guys flying around or old men with beards sitting in clouds. It has to do with the nature of the universe, and something deep within our existence.
I get what people are saying when they put religion down, but on some level, it becomes more complicated than that.
I think you can judge it on what is evident in the world today. You don't need to be a practitioner of something to judge that thing.
I am not putting down Islam itself, but only the way it has been used to manipulate the people of the Moslem world in contemporary times.
It doesn't matter what religion, ethnicity, sex, or whatever there are going to be some extremists so don't bother saying one type of people are a problem because whatever religion, ethnicity or sex you are there's going to be extremists.
Gold guys flying is just a media image, and the media is largely to blame for the negative light on Christians. A lot of religious people use religion to justify their own means, but that's the fault of human nature, not religion. And there are plenty of religious people who don't, so it sort of balances out.
So, when they didn't make me str8, I stopped beleiving in them. Makes me angry cuz I know I would be much happier as a str8 guy.
Yeah, krishcheeanity ain't as cracked up as it made to be.
I don't even know why I spelt his name with a capital coz he ain't even a living thing. Just a figment of you gulliable peoples minds.
Consider this: In the eyes of Christians, YOU are the one that is brainwashed. So, arguing about it is endless and pointless.
And are you one of those people that believe the Big Bang Theory? Congratulations. Beliving that all of this complexity was formed from nothing takes a lot more faith than it does to believe that a superior being made it.
But then again, the last time a firecracker went off I saw a little fish fall to the ground, grow legs and and run off into the forest. Because something from nothing isn't physically impossible or anything.
The reason people choose to believe the Big Bang theory is that, complex as it is, it's logical, and has it's basis in scientific reasoning. Direct interpretation of the bible is not. I'm not completely disregarding religion, just sayin why to many people it makes more sense (I'm agnostic, so haven't really made my mind up) : )
You don't really seem to understand Christianity at all. For a start, angels are presented more as God's warriors than anything else in the bible (remember it was an angel that killed the first born boys in Eygpt), and were romanticised by artists etc (and by religion itself to make the whole thing more appealling). Also, many modern Christians combine scientific findings with whats in the bible, and don't take the whole thing literally, and when you think about it that way it's not so illogical. I still don't agree with it, but there's no reason to be so aggresive towards them.
In the Q'ran it stands that Muslims should take up arms and destroy Islam's enemies. But the Terrorists use it as an excuse and says that the Americans and the western countries are enemies of Islam.
America is there to take terrorists(and oil. i dunno). A enemy of Islam is someone who wants to destroy ISLAM and not someone not Muslim who has warfare in Islamic countries.
Remember: The terrorists are a extreme minority. And "Terrorist" is not "rampaging-jihad leading muslim".
Actually its harder to see it the religious way.
Who created god? Where did a BEING come from?
Pal, there are no coincidents!
And your post is not relevant. You don't have to be Cristian to believe in a GOD.
1. There is a supreme being who loves everything in the limitless universe
2. Made everything in that limitless universe
3. Made everything in all other universes in the other dimensions
4. Is in one of those dimensions, if even our own, with a bunch of people who're dead.
I found this hard to believe. So I just figured 'screw this, no lies.' It is VERY normal to be scared by and feel hate towards Christianity.
Science is what will drive us forward, religion only serves as a way to hold us back. Even in the way of morals, if we need religion to give us morals then we're not the best person anyway, and are unlikely to uphold those morals.
To those who believe in God, belief if up to you. But if one day someone you love develops cancer and you are given two choices, which would you follow:
1)Renounce all faith and recieve a cure through science
2)Believe that God will save them
I classify myself as a roman catholic but I don't give a damn about my sins and sacraments and whatnot. God loves me 100% right now and he won't love me better if i follow the rules he told Moses to write on a rock up on a mountain. Personally I think that Christianity has been really twisted since its origins at the Council of Nicaea.
Just forget it. As long as we're wearing clean underwear and don't smell, we're all ok and we need to stop hating.
But it isen't always they are believers to the grave, its just that alot of people needed something to believe in, to make them feel secure.
And get your facts right. Even your statement, "Christianity scares me" is wrong. by the sounds of things you just don't like it.
Atheist for life. :)
If you think god exists hell is far away, if you dump god probabilly the hell is in front of your door but you can't observe because you don't belive in god.
A religon teaches us what's ethically good and bad. Without it ethic,good will,love and care wouldn't exist.
Just read it and you will don't have to enter this website. I tripped over on it while searching something on google, it's interesting to see what kids and people are doing these days.
i belive in a religion without a god.
personally, i think calling other's religion is rude. god brings hope to people. other's expierence contribute to what they belive in. in the middle ages, maybe that did happen. but what gives you the right to call someone stupid for having hope ?
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They are not "Gold guys" that fly around "playing harps"
The angels are God's army.
If you were to see and angel you would probably be scared to death by the site of it.
There is no such thing as "The Force"
Jesus was able to perform miracles because He is God.
God is three people in one
God the Father
God the Son
And God the Holy Spirit
The Bible isn't crap and I suggest you start reading and believing soon, preferably before you die.
Because with beliefs like this, you've definitely got your ticket to hell.
your an idiot
that was some ones personal fantasy of what heaven would be like and it just got widely used by the media and films and stuff
heaven is what heaven is
no one knows what it looks like
all we know is its a kingdom where all your family that have died go to live
listen mate if you dont believe in anything your a sad lonely tool
thats what the test is faith is blind
you either believe no matter what or you just dont believe
god is real and i feel sorry for you son
you must be bitter
Is there evil & sin in the world? Yes. Is the end days upon us? Yes. Will there be an increase in suffering as a result of the end days? Yes
Revelations outlines this false religion that will permeate the planet. It will be the marriage/joining of Islam and Technology.
For those of you who have read scripture, or at least attended bible study, or even watched one of these Evagelist on TV.
The end days are upon us: We are practically into a cashless society. And the One World Government is the United Nations. Islam is on the rise again (It took 200 years to suppress it the last time).
And in time will become the one world relion. And finally when you receive the mark of the beast, you will be damned and upon your death be casted into the lake of fire for eternity.
Death, Destruction, Famine, and unimaginable suffering will rein on all of us who reject the mark of the beast. In the end however will rein in heaven.
I pray that all those souls who are not believers find a bible and read revelations. Its still not too late. HURRY!!!!
What I don't like it intolerant sh*ts like you mouthing off about what I should and shouldn't believe. My personal beliefs hurt no-one. I couldn't care less if someone thought their toothbrush was the King of Spain.
I also think you are very ignorant of what you are talking about. What are these flying gold people with harps? What's "The Force".
I hope that one day you do believe in God, but in the meantime I just hope that you learn to become a decent member of society who accepts people's beliefs.
Honestly, religion has caused many MANY problems throughout history. The Crusades, war after war after war.. etc. Not to say atheists haven't had their fair share of horrible crimes against humanity but at least no atheist ever killed in the name of the god they DIDNT believe in... unlike religious killers who feel totally justified in murdering people in the name of a being who they have never met, seen, smelt, touched or had any direct contact with in any way shape or form at all.
In terms of Islamic Fundamentalism and the absolutely DISGUSTING islamophobic comments being left on here by several users, I really hope you wake up to the absurd hypocrisy unto which you subscribe. You preach christianity being all loving and all merciful (EVEN TO ONES ENEMIES CORRECT?... well according to jesus anyway and i heard you guys hold him in rather high regard... being god and all) and yet feel that you can say lets kill all the muslims because they all hate us. THIS IS FUCKING RETARDED. THIS IS WHY PEOPLE POST UP THIGNS SAYING THEY HATE RELIGION. You are both blinded by the beliefs you abide by. Do you have every right to believe them? HELL YES. Should you try and fuck up everyone who doesnt belivev them? HELL NO. And if you really think Osama Bin Laden and the rest of the leaders of "Islamic" Terrorism really have Islam at heart then you are just not thinking clearly. There are massive political rationales behind their pseudo-religious facades, however religion provides an extremely convincing reason to get gullible people to enlist.
As for America being a Judeo-Christian Nation from birth. I'm not even American and i know that in the Constitution of the United States there is a clear separation of Religion and State. In fact if you told Jefferson or Lincoln how far right-wing conservative Christianity has come in isloating every single other facet of religion in the US i think theyd both have simultaneous hernias. The USA was founded upon the very principle that anyone can believe or NOT believe any bloody thing they want to. The very ideas of free speech are imbued into this principle. HW BUSH was not right when he said American Atheists are not citizens... and he was NOT right when he said This [USA] is one nation under God... by saying that he jsut showed how fucking ignorant and close-minded he was.
I don't care what you believe. All i care about is academic honesty and integrity. Denying things like Evolution via Natural Selection and the origins of the Universe being the Big Bang etc. is just silly. The proof is absolutely stunning. It shouldnt threaten religion and faith. The very nature of faith defines that it cannot be overturned by science. I APPEAL TO THEISTS READING THIS. DO NOT FEAR SCIENCE. EMBRACE IT. It has provided us with medicine, transport, housing, energy, engineering... well basically everything that you so enjoy. And indeed without science we wouldn't be communicating right now. Yes some aspects of science collide with religious belief, and when it does the science will always win. Take evolution for example. The process of evolution is absolutely amazingly beautiful. It describes an almost ballet-like traverse through time from genetic mutation to mutation, with life finding its way into stronger more able beings and idneed in the case of Homo Sapiens we have mutated to the point of salient intelligence. As carl sagan once said "We are the universe's way of knowing itself." FUCK HATE. We are stuck with each other on this planet. Our beliefs are our beliefs. Either we learn to coexist. Or we will wipe ourselves off the face of the planet. Oh and instead of worrying about the second comign can we start worriyng about the fact that were murdering this planet and destroy our climate... Cheers. Rajiv Odhavji. Brother of all.
And yes, Christian / Muslim / Whatever fanatic assholes who think they know Gods will well enough to enforce it on the rest of us scares me.
The Gospel acording to me (which I think makes me a better person even if there is no God):
1) Do no harm, and leave the world a better place than when you got here.
2) Belive what you wish - and let others do the same. That include how you/we got here and where you/we are going.
3) Live your own life, do not try to live others for them.
4) Any God that does not cry at the things we have done to each other in his (its?) name, is not a God for me.
5) When in doubt, follow the Golden Rule.
My heart goes out to you and to all nonbelievers. I pray that when God speaks to you through the unique avenue that he will you will open your heart to hearing Him. I love you and hope to see you in heaven :)
Science is the truth.
You take comfort in the notion that nothing truly 'good' has to be taught to you, because you can easily isolate the concept of 'good' and 'bad' based upon your own practical understanding of things.
This is called 'utilitarianism' and was first coined by John Stuart Mills. It was also used later by Marxist philosophers to justify communist and socialist ideas.
A famous Mills quote is "it is better to be a human dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied." If all Christians were fools and pigs then this would surely be a death-blow to organized religion. The thing is: all Christians are not pigs and fools...
This is absolute garbage. "Complexity" is formed from natural selection, any intellectual understands this.