The history channel used to be interesting, shows about great president and wars, and the beginning of America. Now, it's either redneck shows of creole people hunting alligators, or rednecks in Las Vegas pawning things. I haven't seen a culturally relevant show on it in years, either super redneck stuff, or incredibly bizarre theories of how the aliens built ancient Rome. Is it normal I miss my history? :(

I agree about many of the other shows, though. I HATE their armageddon shows, Nostradamus crap, Brad Meltzer's Decoded, Ancient Aliens...all that stuff is such crap. They of all people should have a duty to report things accurately but the information in those shows is so skewed and is hardly true at all, they fit things to whatever agenda they have.
You have to keep in mind that some of their newer shows are history in the making though. History IS made every day, some of the shows are just documenting history being made. There's also recent history that's interesting, like Modern Marvels.
They want viewers so they had to diversify, I think most of it's good, just those stupid shows like Ancient Aliens (uggh, how fucking dumb) and of course the whole 2012 Apocalypse crap they run often, it's just to get viewers. I don't get why they do the gator hunting show though, seriously, what IS that?
Ax Men-the Swamp Man is pulling logs out of the water that sunk from a couple-hundred year old log raft....for example. Then there's teams that use horses and oxen for logging, and no machinery. It's relevant.
Ice Road Truckers, it shows modern ways of transporting goods, and also dips into the oil industry. That WILL be history one day.
Ancient Aliens is a JOKE, all they do is say how aliens had to have built shit because the people back then were too stupid. Yeah, OK. Then they skew facts to make it fir their alien agenda. It's all bunk.
Only when they pull these hundred year old logs out of the water is it relevant to history. Otherwise, it's useless in terms of history.
I agree that some people who push out their theories on Ancient Aliens are quacks- however, those theories are pointed out strictly as theories -not facts- by the narrators, and they are important in depicting possible historical outcomes. More importantly, the objects and information themselves are historical and are therefore perfect for the History Channel.
Much of what we see as history, even recent, is misconstrued. We need the discussion of events to keep flowing, no matter how ridiculous the parties are.
Can you imagine if we had video of any historical event instead of MOSTLY guessing? Guess not. Ice Road Truckers, yes, they do play up some drama but it mostly documents very relevant things. Remember, there was a time when what they did was impossible, then done by horses, then done by smaller machinery now done by them, and also NOW done in part for the oil industry. It's definitely relevant. 100 years from now, would you think things will be he same? Why? They aren't the same as 100 years ago, so it's apparent things will change by then. What will become of the oil industry and oil dependence? What ALL truckers do is reliant on the oil industry. Surely this is absolutely relevant to that, the end of an oil era will demand much information and history. Documentation is nice. They're doing something 'newer' but major and relevant in many ways.
If you don't get it then I'm sorry.
The point is- Ice Trucking and such are not historical events.
The objects and information on Ancient Aliens, Pawn Stars etc are.
If any shows are relevant to the History Channel, it would be the latter- more-so than the former.
Whatever is so important to the future of our children is not relevant to the topic. Documents are vital, but not relevant to a tv channel made to display only history.
If you don't get that, I'm sorry.
Let's see, would our great grandparents thought the same of events happening in their time, enough to tape them if they had the means?? Would you not value tape of Galileo? Einstein?
You are sitting here saying you appreciate history yet are going on history made up mostly of guesses and theories. If all that was on tape, would you not value that more? Would you not value seeing not only that but the vibe of the world at the time of these happenings?
Just because you're too ignorant to see the value in this documentation now, doesn't mean it isn't relevant.
If it had been documented where exactly that few-hundred year old raft went down, then ol' Shelby wouldn't have to search for it, would he? It's important and it also shows you how easily and quickly facts can be completely lost. An entire floating raft of thousands of logs lost in one single relatively small Louisiana river lost and unknown...hmmmm. And this is only a few generations back.
Just not on that channel.
Yes, I know of the things you speak.
It's obvious the History Channel has diversified in the past decade to accommodate various special interests so go watch those then.
Do you live under a fucking rock?
I've made several valid points, and also included that the History and Discovery channels have diversified, to no avail. So then comes exasperation. Sorry, it's a natural thing that hapens when someone just doesn't get it.
They have an obligation to stockholders to make money, so that's what they will do. Like I said, watch the fucking Military Channel, Military History, Bio channel, H2, etc, there's hardly a lack of options. That's just how it is and has been for a decade now so why is this new to you?
I could see your point if there was no other options but there's actually so many more and better options now than before so what's the complaint?
I happen to take a liking to some of their programs such as Swamp People, I just think it'f be more relevant towards an other channel. It doesn't bother me that they're on said channel, I'm simply stating it's irrelevance to that particular channel. I would never want for them to be cancelled altogether, they're informative and important.
I never had a complaint, I was just engaging discussion.
I guess you may compare it to a news network...every one wants that big story....but in 10, 30, 50, years, who will remember or care? You never know, because you can't predict the future. YOu never know which one of those programs may be the major decider in how history was recorded, or how powerful it may be in time. But it's all there on tape and at least you can say 'hey I lived through that' to your kids. And tell them how it really was, too.
The only reason I don't watch that channel more is because I forget it's even there. I have satellite TV and have a ridiculous number of channels (only watch a handful of them!!) and that one is up in the high numbers which I just never check. I'll make a point to check it out next time I'm looking around on the TV.
Edit: I watch Top Gear too, that's a good show. We have an American one too, again very different but a lot of the same ideas and concept. I like the American one more just because I can relate to it more, they do crazy shit that you can only do in America with the terrain and what we do with cars and all!!
I'm amazed they bleep out "shit" there. Everyone who has visited has said American TV is very conservative but I thought it may have changed. If I hear "cunt" on TV in the evening, I don't even register it. I'd only be surprised if it was on kid's TV or the news.
I watch Top Gear too (despite never having driven, but then you already know I love cars). I've seen the American version too but it doesn't appeal to me as much. I guess it really did need remaking for your market. The weird thing is that I always think of the Americans and British as similar and yet you often remake our TV and most of the rest of the world watches it as it is.
Having said that, we (very loosely) remade Friends, albeit a much more adult version of Friends.
(south park)