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I'm a girl a who had sex with her mom (not fake)
I'll start from the beginning: First, I'm a 16 year old girl and my mom is 35. I have no siblings and my dad died two years ago by a card accident.
Since that day me and my mom becamse realy close (not sexually close).
In the first anniversity to my dad's death me and my mom took quite alright.. but at the last one, wich was last week, we both cracked. We cried for hours, finding comfort in each other's arms. At some point my mom asked me to please stop crying, but I told my mom to please stop crying but she told me she can't and that's the only thing on her mind. I couldn't stand seeing her like that, so I wiped her tears, and I don't know why I did it, but I kissed her in the lips. At first she backed off immidiately, asking me what am I'm doing. I told her that she -both of us- should stop thinking a dad and that we need something to distract us, and before my mom had a chance to talk a gain I grabbed her hair and closed her lips to mine. Again she tried to resist, but I wasn't letting go and all of a sudden the kiss deepened. Out of the blue we found ourselves naked in the shower together, bathing and pleasuring each other.
From that day I sleep in her bed, and whenever sad thoughts are cunsuming our mind we're doing it as long as it takes to make the thoughts go away.
I'm not exactly sure what should do.
Help, please?
Since that day me and my mom becamse realy close (not sexually close).
In the first anniversity to my dad's death me and my mom took quite alright.. but at the last one, wich was last week, we both cracked. We cried for hours, finding comfort in each other's arms. At some point my mom asked me to please stop crying, but I told my mom to please stop crying but she told me she can't and that's the only thing on her mind. I couldn't stand seeing her like that, so I wiped her tears, and I don't know why I did it, but I kissed her in the lips. At first she backed off immidiately, asking me what am I'm doing. I told her that she -both of us- should stop thinking a dad and that we need something to distract us, and before my mom had a chance to talk a gain I grabbed her hair and closed her lips to mine. Again she tried to resist, but I wasn't letting go and all of a sudden the kiss deepened. Out of the blue we found ourselves naked in the shower together, bathing and pleasuring each other.
From that day I sleep in her bed, and whenever sad thoughts are cunsuming our mind we're doing it as long as it takes to make the thoughts go away.
I'm not exactly sure what should do.
Help, please?
Do you think it's normal?
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Like, Stargirl, above, I'm kind of thinking that it might be a joke, what with all the incest posts around here lately. But... It DOES have a sort of ring of truth to it, so let me answer you this way, poster.
I've been giving a lot of thought to Adult (or nearly adult, sixteen is old enough to know what you are getting into) incest and I have concluded that - although many people would say it is Not "normal" - so long as Both the parties involved are okay with it, it is, okay.
I do have some worries about babies born out of it, but it would not happen in this case.
I also think you should be aware that, if you continue this you need to SERIOUSLY keep your mouth shut about it. Some states it is okay, and in the UK the AOC is sixteen. In other areas it would land your mom in legal trouble Big Time.
After you turn eighteen, well, Still keep your mouth closed about it. No sense tempting fate.
Please, be well and happy.
Tobra
Ms. October (to you)
If you value family relationships, a healthy living, you will not use them for your sexual gratification. There are million of people out there for us to pursue, that is what nature intended for us to target, not close family members.
Good luck!
You are one nasty opportunist slutwhore who has taken the defintion of "slut" to a new low record.
You sicken me to even pull this load of bullshit from your ass.
I am not sure if it is "okay" per se'. Like you, I have doubts that this is a real post.
In thinking it over, and maybe I need to think on it some more, I just have the idea that IF both parties are Of Age (or old enough to know what they are getting into, 16 is legal in UK for example) and they Both want sex then I don't see a Moral problem with it.
I Do forsee social problems and possible family emotional problems down the line possibly. I don't think it is the Best approach, but I can think of things far worse.
Like I said, I might be wrong.
Tobra - Still thinking on it.
No, Stargirl, I am NOT sure. Truthfully. Like I've said, it could well be that I am wrong. What *I* think though is that IF both people are of age or old enough to know what they are getting into, and both are Wanting to get into it, then, For Them, it is - acceptable, if maybe not "normal".
My FEELING is that, unless a crime against a child is taking place, or a rape or something like that; and providing that they don't doo whatever on my front lawn, then what they do consentually between themselves is really none of My business whatsoever. I mean, *I* am not into the incest thing, but given some of the ways I get my sexual jollies, who am I to throw the first stone.
I also, like you, wonder if this post was Real.
I am really surprised that you are so against this in any event. From most of your posts, you sounded like a big one for individual rights and freedoms, provided they are not all out in our faces.
There is more and more crap out there, sexually, these days. You mention the possibility of five year olds having sex with each other? Well, I don't know about that, but I have read stories where a six or or year old was arrested and taken into Juvinile Custody after being caught examining a little girl in his class. I am Just old enough to remember when this wasn't a crime, or and issue of Having Sex, but something called Playing Doctor. Somehow many of the people who yelp the loudest at the idea of kids Having Sex have somehow forgotten how they themselves used to play the "I'll show you mine" game when they were little.
I also believe America is in a downward spiral, thanks IMOHO to liberals, more than any reason remotely having to do with sex.
So, am I sure? No. But I can live with it without judging as long as The Poster (and her mother) can. To me...
Do you know what the Most Common Sexual Perversion in the world is? It is the deviation of thought that goes: "MY way is the ONLY RIGHT way to be." - Me, So long as no one is being forced and everyone knows what they are in for, good and bad, and can make an informed choice, whatever works. :)
Please understand Stargirl, I am trying to be polite here. I have no desire to start a war with you, as I agree with Most of your opinions.
Tobra
I Don't necessarily think that incest is "Normal" but I am of the mind that it is Acceptable IF all parties involved are:
A: Okay with it. (Rape is wrong in any sense)
B: Adults of "Of age" where they understand what they are getting into.
To me it's like this. My brother has a couple of good friends who are marines, eighteen. nineteen year olds like me. Anyway, they go out sometimes and get drunk.
LEGALLY they cannot.
MORALLY there is an argument that says maybe they shouldn't.
REALISTICALLY I don't feel that it is any of MY business, or yours, to stick my nose in their business.
Same way with consentual incest. I am leery about male/female incest as I worry about the results of having children (I don't have enough research materials to know about that and I have heard bad things) But for lesbian/or gay, incest where kids are not the equation, I say that as long as who ever it is is not "throwing it in my face" then it is not really my place to say what They choose to do.
You have mentioned that you feel that morally it is wrong, okay, fair enough. Here is the rub though: What gives *YOU* (or Me, please understand I am not trying to be offensive to "You", Stargirl the person) the right to decide what is "Morally Correct" for everyone?
I like to have a guy urinate on me. Am I "Morally" wrong? Or is it more a case of something a lot of people are not into?
Who decides?
There was a time in this country where a black person faced serious physical harm for dating a white.
There still is hatred among gays who are visibly active (though not so much with lesbians...MEN, go figure)
Is this really that much different - TO the persons Involved? They are not suggesting this for Your family, or mine (Hell, my mom taught my sis and I to masturbate when we were thirteen - no touching involved but she showed us what was where and why) but simply wanting to consentually do the thing with each other.
Children? No...to a point.
Something I have noticed. The Same people who believe that children should Not experiment sexually or know anything about sex, or God forbid Do anything with each other, are generally the people who scream the loudest at the teen pregnancy rate. Would it not be better to Educate teens Honestly to do what they are going to do regardless?
Children need to be protected from preditory adult perverts, but should be given the freedom to experiment with each other without legal penalty.
Thoughts?
Tobra
Stupid bitch.
Society SUCKS ASS. You know what? I HOPE it's fall. We have a CRAPPY society were innocent people get locked behing bars just because they couldn't afford good lawyers while murderers and rapest and released just because they can afford lawyers in the good case, and being releaseing out of technicallity in the bad case. Example: A murderer that the judge and joureys KNOW he commited murder is being released because the search that revealed the ecidence was illigal at the time.
And that's just wrong.
It.s WRONG.
Get a life, stupid bitch.
I hope you die.
So you watch it.
You watch it.
*wull=will
*May=My
Just because I know you're spelling freak, stupid bitch. I realy realy hope you die. Honestly.
So you watch it.
You may be laughing now, stupid bitch, but I'd like to see you laugh with a bullet in your brains. I already shot someone who annoyed me in the past. I my just shot his arm, but no one even cought me; he didn't saw it coming. And neither would you.
Last friendly warning: You better watch your back, stupid bitch.
You 2 choices now:
1. Never go to sleep again.
2. Die.
Make your choice.
And you know what? I'm done arguing with you I don't believe a word you say. "using all types of guns"? lol yeah right. Go fool someone else, stupid bitch. And even if you are telling the truth, it won't help when you're asleep, now would it, stupid bitch?
See ya soon.
Real soon.
Either way, I win.
SweetAngel- I'm with you. Maybe we could kill her together?
I'll swap details with you in ICQ. I'll give you the number in chat.
I want to see that bitch going down.
Three are better than two, so fine, you're in.
Anyone else?
And I don't need to prove anything to you. The less you know- the better.
It's three against one, stupid bitch. If you're not scared, then you'd better be.
Hey, I agree with you 100%. The thing is, WHO gets to decide what "An age where they can make decisions and live with the consequences of that decision." really MEANS? I mean, I am NOT suggesting that extremely underaged children should fuck/suck with parents - No Way!
In the case of this post though, the girl stated that she was Sixteen - which to my mind is old enough to understand reparcussions.
It Might be that, in cases of mid to late teen years Incest might be the least of all evils (STDs, pregnancy, awkwardness) for those (and Only those) who chose to embrace it. Again I say that I just don't think it is any of my - or your - business what they do behind closed doors.
And yes, I am still open to the possibility that I am wrong. In any event, incest is not MY thing or MY choice anyway. :)
Look, I know I won't convince you, and I doubt that you'll convince me, Stargirl. I agree that you've made some very valid points, but I think this is just a situation where you and I will just agree to disagree. :)
Friends! :)
Tobra
@ AshleyGraham
@ Amy1991
And ESPECIALLY
@ SweetAngel
Would you three silly sluts sit back and LISTEN to yourselves????? !
Ashley and Amy... You are making all kinds of smart ass comments and threats because - Why, exactly? Did either of you POST this post? If so I can understand SOME of your anger at Stargirl, for not giving you the go ahead to fuck your mom(s).
If NOT, then do you have something to post other than "Stargirl is a stupid bitch"... and I know this because I follow the crowd and everyone sez she is and I SO want to be popular! I mean, do you call here this for ANY reason?
And SweetAngel
Ohhhh SweetAngel, where DO we begin.
Ashley and Amy I can have a little consideration for. You on the other hand... Do you have ANY idea as to what you are Talking about, child? You are THREATENING someone with DEATH over a very mild disagreement on the internet... And thinking you would get away with it - Assuming you could:
A: Track her down
B: Afford transportation from where ever you are TO her location.
C: Hire a car.
D: Buy a gun (Unless you drove all the way, airplanes frown on guns being carried)
E: Shoot her before she can return fire and send you into Taps........
Never mind the fact that pointing and firing a gun is a little more involved than pointing your finger and shouting BANG! And you would possibly piss yourself if you ever had a bullit wizz by your head.
See, My dad, in addition to being an old hippie, was in the service as well (Don't be shocked, lots were) and he taught me and my siblings on how to handle guns from a young age. We've also been involved in live fire shooting (Which, at the time, I really belive our Mother wanted to kill him for, when she found out about it) so *I* have some idea of what I am talking about.
More to the point...
You spout all this crap and back it up by saying your dad is a police officer. (MY daddy is a cop - SO THERE!)
Shit.
Is your daddy REALLY a cop, or do you just get that impression because he comes into your room at night and says "Up against the wall and spread 'em, bitch!" ?
And if he IS a police officer, I wonder, do you think he would be Proud to hear his little whore, err, girl, making such vile and possibly illegal threats on the internet?
You don't impress me, babybitch. Go play with your guns (Fill them with water first) and ask daddy what shooting a real gun is Really like. Oh, and think about the person you are shooting at, firing back at you and parting your hair down to your asscrack while you're at it.
To put it simply: S.T.F.U!
October
Find a little self respect while you're at it.
October Marie
SweetAngel, I don't see where you stand on making Internet death threats. The day you come through with such a thing would be the day Hell freezes over, and I sure couldn't imagine that happening any time soon. Keep such immature remarks to yourself, please.
SweetAngel's sheep - Did you even understand that what she stated was an INTERNET death threat? Think about how far-fetched that is. Who the hell comes through with that? No one. It was simply a series of words thought up in a moment where she couldn't come back with something witty.
Stargirl and October - You both make valid opinions, and I completely respect them. Topics like this are always hot on the debate table, and I'm glad to see the way the both of you have somewhat wrapped this up.
- xRainFaeryx
With that in mind, though I doubt we will always agree on everything (Which would be boring anyhow) I welcome you. :)
Tobra Marie
However, you both are morning and I think you are fine. If it continues for a longer time, your still fine but you need to ask yourself if you are having feeling toward your mom or if you truly are lesbian. If you are not a lesbian, invite a guy to your "party" after your mom and you talk about it.
Your fine, just be honest but if it brings both of you joy, than enjoy it. However, you need to ask yourself the hard questions to see if it is what you truly want or if it is just a fling.
As far as incest goes, I would NEVER engage in this type of relations with my family not because they are family but as a whole, I cannot stand them. However, I understand what you are saying and I tend to agree with you.
If a male and female get hooked up, please use protection but as long as you are not hurting anyone (AOC in my state of Oregon, USA is 18 but I think it should be 15 or 16) and you are of age to understand what you are doing and the consequences of what you are doing ahead of time, enjoy your life.
As far as you and your mom, your both, like I sated before, are morning still and need comfort. It seems you are both comforting each other this way over the pain of losing your dad and it may be great now, but will it be later? Just be careful and use your brain.
Remeber, please remember. In life you are free to do almost anything you want AS LONG AS YOU DO NOT HURT OTHERS IN THE PROCESS. If you two are fine with it I am happy for you though.
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October, who the hell is Stargirl. I do not see any comments from her? However, like I said before, I tend to agree with you.