Yeah, you're right. Asians have done a lot, which is why I don't disrespect the Asian people, because they have supplied us with great things. There are groups of people, and then there are groups within groups. There are males, then there are asian males, british males, american males, etc. All of them have great men in them, and not all of them only do great in one thing.
Should not be allowed to reproduce? By that logic, either should women. But, if that was the case, artificial wombs would be introduced. The main reason why such a thing isn't having as much attention is mainly due to feminists saying it's against human rights, or whatever (I wonder why).
I never said women can't use men's inventions, I said they'd have to figure out how to make them by themselves, and the same would go with males needing to know how females made theirs, they'd have to figure it out on their own. For example, if women can make a building, males wouldn't be allowed to just come in and smash it to the ground, because they figured out how to make it by themselves and make it by themselves.
Also, women didn't invent the refrigirator, nor where they the ones to first come up with the idea to freeze food, not to mention, the advanced refrigirator today is nowhere like the one back then, because of men. Yes, women made the first windshieldwiper, but they weren't the first to make the electric one. Their one was a hand held one, as useful as having a piece of cloth and wiping the window.
The next bit is a bit stupid, no offence intended. We're talking about male and female humans, not insects or any other creature.
The humanity part, I agree. If they don't like humanity, nobody is making them stay, and if they disrespect the whole human race, not just some of it, they should leave. Why should deal with such people?
Well, the female gender seems to be allowed to be hateful towards females far more than it's acceptable to say men are allowed to do the same to women, and you can say that you don't want women like that around, but they are, and yet nobody tries to stop it.
Women are allowed to be negative towards the male gender, but males aren't allowed to be negative to the male gender. So many people say "We don't let women do that", but they do nothing about it, but if men even do half the amount feminists are saying about men, then you are happy to go to the death with such people.
It's an issue of sympathy for the oppressed minority. In many areas that I have lived in, the issue is blacks against whites ("well they held us as slaves, we are oppressed"). Our society is still coming to terms with this "tolerance" deal, and it's a problem that is exclusive to our advanced state of society right now.
I guarantee that if a woman in Iraq were to say such negative things about the male gender, she'd be killed, locked up, or tortured. It's not an issue of gender so much as it is an issue of culture. Our society hasn't quite left the bleeding heart stage. I am almost convinced that as time goes on, feminimst groups that promote hatred will become more and more of a mockery amongst the general populace, simialar to how the KKK is seen.
But your solution would be to cut that section of society out and throw them somewhere else. That seems like a very violent, reactionary way to tackle a problem.
You are perpetually upset by women not respecting men as a gender. I don't know where you live, but where I live, I encounter this very rarely. Most girls I know aren't mysandrists and few express sentiments of a similar nature. When they do, it's usually in a joking way, similar to "women should stay in the kitchen."
I agree that political and intellectual equality works both ways. The way to create this and maintain it is through education.
Forced segregation might seem like a solution, but it's a ridiculous and short-term one. You push a minority of people who disagree with you into a corner, you light a match to whatever was fuelling their hatred to begin with. You essentially give them greater reason to resent your ideology, because you are now an oppressor. They would blame you for the struggle and their new society will have at its foundation the very thought process that you thought justified their segregation. So you'll have generation after generation continuing a culture of hate (in this case, hatred towards men). No doubt there would be conflict between your 'better' society and their 'worse' society. You'd create more problems than you had.
As I say, education. Teach people of the inventions and successes of humanity, the way we've overcome adversity and, despite our physical limitations, have worked together to become the most powerful animal on earth. Teach people how we shouldn't discriminate against each other based purely on gender, race, appearance etc.
The minority who hang on to their prejudices need not be kicked out, because their voice will be drowned out by the majority who disagree with them.
No need for violence. They will simply be made to leave. Beating them, raping them, etc would be against the law. They would then learn, that if they want to bash the group they have used inventions from, then they can't disrespect them. I am upset with women. They get to have what the male gender has, yet disrespect the gender they are constantly taking from, and the males have no problem with giving to them. They will call men useless, etc, yet if they were to be stripped of all man made inventions, they would cry, and they would scream discrimination. Then when everything is given back to them, they will complain about men again. I live in Britain.
It isn't only to teach them a lesson, it's also to give them the chance to progress on their own. So by doing this, they have the oppurtunity to show that they are just as capable as men to make civilization, and if they can't, well that's their problem until they learn that if they want to use what man has made, they can't say they're useless.
Well, if that happens, that happens. If they choose to hate us for the actions that was brought out because of what "they" were doing, then it happens. Then when they start a war, they will be killed. No, I don't want that to happen, but it will be another example of them trying to have their way, but shown they can't.
Are you kidding? There are studies such as women studies, something to make women feel empowered, yet there isn't a "men's studies". Society is happy to let women see the reasons why they're strong, but wouldn't dare do the same for males, and if it was, you just know that groups such as feminism would try to shut such a class down.
Are you sure? Women are allowed to say so much against the male gender, that if men even said 10% of what they say about men, he is seen as an asshole, and stopped from saying anything more.
"Simply be made to leave"... Yeah I'm not so sure that could happen without violence.
I'm in Britain too. I come across this issue once in a blue moon. I think you are pre-occupied with it beyond reason, because it is not something that is a major problem encountered by most people. A minority of women (and some men) resenting men doesn't really impact upon society at large, just as a minority of neo-Nazis here doesn't. They are essentially 'outside' and 'excluded' the more vehemently they express their unpopular opinions. They segregate themselves.
When was the last time you went to sit at the front of a bus but some women told you you weren't 'allowed' because you were male and inferior? When was the last time you were walking down the street and a group of women shouted abuse at you because you're male?
In what way have these mysandrists hindered British society's progress?
I think you need to keep things in perspective. Most women don't hate you or me because of what's between our legs, most women don't rally together to 'turn the tables of the past' and gain a position above men. Most women here are content with their socio-economic standing in society.
Then it would be those few made to leave. I'm not saying there are millions or only ten, 'm saying no matter the number, they should leave. I have seen many women disrespect men in Britain, and I have lived in England, Scotland, and Wales, all around each country.
Well, I haven't seen men do that to women either, yet they are still seen to do so.
I never said most women do, I know most don't, I'm saying the ones that do should leave.
Yeah, you're right. Asians have done a lot, which is why I don't disrespect the Asian people, because they have supplied us with great things. There are groups of people, and then there are groups within groups. There are males, then there are asian males, british males, american males, etc. All of them have great men in them, and not all of them only do great in one thing.
Should not be allowed to reproduce? By that logic, either should women. But, if that was the case, artificial wombs would be introduced. The main reason why such a thing isn't having as much attention is mainly due to feminists saying it's against human rights, or whatever (I wonder why).
I never said women can't use men's inventions, I said they'd have to figure out how to make them by themselves, and the same would go with males needing to know how females made theirs, they'd have to figure it out on their own. For example, if women can make a building, males wouldn't be allowed to just come in and smash it to the ground, because they figured out how to make it by themselves and make it by themselves.
Also, women didn't invent the refrigirator, nor where they the ones to first come up with the idea to freeze food, not to mention, the advanced refrigirator today is nowhere like the one back then, because of men. Yes, women made the first windshieldwiper, but they weren't the first to make the electric one. Their one was a hand held one, as useful as having a piece of cloth and wiping the window.
The next bit is a bit stupid, no offence intended. We're talking about male and female humans, not insects or any other creature.
The humanity part, I agree. If they don't like humanity, nobody is making them stay, and if they disrespect the whole human race, not just some of it, they should leave. Why should deal with such people?
Well, the female gender seems to be allowed to be hateful towards females far more than it's acceptable to say men are allowed to do the same to women, and you can say that you don't want women like that around, but they are, and yet nobody tries to stop it.
Women are allowed to be negative towards the male gender, but males aren't allowed to be negative to the male gender. So many people say "We don't let women do that", but they do nothing about it, but if men even do half the amount feminists are saying about men, then you are happy to go to the death with such people.
I guarantee that if a woman in Iraq were to say such negative things about the male gender, she'd be killed, locked up, or tortured. It's not an issue of gender so much as it is an issue of culture. Our society hasn't quite left the bleeding heart stage. I am almost convinced that as time goes on, feminimst groups that promote hatred will become more and more of a mockery amongst the general populace, simialar to how the KKK is seen.
Thanks for sharing your opinions.
You are perpetually upset by women not respecting men as a gender. I don't know where you live, but where I live, I encounter this very rarely. Most girls I know aren't mysandrists and few express sentiments of a similar nature. When they do, it's usually in a joking way, similar to "women should stay in the kitchen."
I agree that political and intellectual equality works both ways. The way to create this and maintain it is through education.
Forced segregation might seem like a solution, but it's a ridiculous and short-term one. You push a minority of people who disagree with you into a corner, you light a match to whatever was fuelling their hatred to begin with. You essentially give them greater reason to resent your ideology, because you are now an oppressor. They would blame you for the struggle and their new society will have at its foundation the very thought process that you thought justified their segregation. So you'll have generation after generation continuing a culture of hate (in this case, hatred towards men). No doubt there would be conflict between your 'better' society and their 'worse' society. You'd create more problems than you had.
As I say, education. Teach people of the inventions and successes of humanity, the way we've overcome adversity and, despite our physical limitations, have worked together to become the most powerful animal on earth. Teach people how we shouldn't discriminate against each other based purely on gender, race, appearance etc.
The minority who hang on to their prejudices need not be kicked out, because their voice will be drowned out by the majority who disagree with them.
They would then learn, that if they want to bash the group they have used inventions from, then they can't disrespect them.
I am upset with women. They get to have what the male gender has, yet disrespect the gender they are constantly taking from, and the males have no problem with giving to them. They will call men useless, etc, yet if they were to be stripped of all man made inventions, they would cry, and they would scream discrimination. Then when everything is given back to them, they will complain about men again.
I live in Britain.
It isn't only to teach them a lesson, it's also to give them the chance to progress on their own. So by doing this, they have the oppurtunity to show that they are just as capable as men to make civilization, and if they can't, well that's their problem until they learn that if they want to use what man has made, they can't say they're useless.
Well, if that happens, that happens. If they choose to hate us for the actions that was brought out because of what "they" were doing, then it happens. Then when they start a war, they will be killed. No, I don't want that to happen, but it will be another example of them trying to have their way, but shown they can't.
Are you kidding? There are studies such as women studies, something to make women feel empowered, yet there isn't a "men's studies". Society is happy to let women see the reasons why they're strong, but wouldn't dare do the same for males, and if it was, you just know that groups such as feminism would try to shut such a class down.
Are you sure? Women are allowed to say so much against the male gender, that if men even said 10% of what they say about men, he is seen as an asshole, and stopped from saying anything more.
I'm in Britain too. I come across this issue once in a blue moon. I think you are pre-occupied with it beyond reason, because it is not something that is a major problem encountered by most people. A minority of women (and some men) resenting men doesn't really impact upon society at large, just as a minority of neo-Nazis here doesn't. They are essentially 'outside' and 'excluded' the more vehemently they express their unpopular opinions. They segregate themselves.
When was the last time you went to sit at the front of a bus but some women told you you weren't 'allowed' because you were male and inferior? When was the last time you were walking down the street and a group of women shouted abuse at you because you're male?
In what way have these mysandrists hindered British society's progress?
I think you need to keep things in perspective. Most women don't hate you or me because of what's between our legs, most women don't rally together to 'turn the tables of the past' and gain a position above men. Most women here are content with their socio-economic standing in society.
I have seen many women disrespect men in Britain, and I have lived in England, Scotland, and Wales, all around each country.
Well, I haven't seen men do that to women either, yet they are still seen to do so.
I never said most women do, I know most don't, I'm saying the ones that do should leave.