I'm tired of all these guys going "why do girls hate nice guys?"
I know I'm biased, being a woman, but there's a reason that a lot of "nice guys" are just friends.
A lot of the men that I know, who consider themselves "nice," are actually pretty snotty.
tl;dr- I think the friendzone is an overused excuse. When I consider men, I'm looking for neither the douche nor the nice guy- I'm looking for a balance of both. IIN?
I know I'm biased, being a woman, but there's a reason that a lot of "nice guys" are just friends.
A lot of the men that I know, who consider themselves "nice," are actually pretty snotty.
tl;dr- I think the friendzone is an overused excuse. When I consider men, I'm looking for neither the douche nor the nice guy- I'm looking for a balance of both. IIN?
So basically the guy that has an overabundance of generosity, humor, goodwill, charity, faithfulness, and whatever other overall positive qualities we put in there would be a total turnoff?? If he doesnt act like a douchebag as much as he is nice you dont want anything to do with him?
Good luck I am sure you wont have any problem finding that special someone I described. Here's hoping he has more douchebag qualities then anything else.
I don't think that she knows what a "nice guy" actually is. Because a lot of guys consider themselves to be "nice guys" when it reality, while they are nice and sweet, they are possessive and insecure, don't have any confidence or they don't have any highly desirable qualities such as intelligence, skills, ability to work hard or they are just plain ole unattractive.
But if that is the way that YOU define nice guys, which I have seen get "friendzoned", then it would only be the problem of the woman. Nice guys are not always full of emotional drama and bullshit, which is what women seem to really like nowadays.
I hate how some guys apparently believe that girls have to be attracted to anyone who's being nice to them. Unless you're a misogynist or otherwise sexist, treating girls nicely is a basic social necessity and not something extremely special.
Plus I find this term so extremely annoying since it doesn't take into account actual friendship between different genders. Why should I look for something romantic or sexual in any guy I meet? That would simply be slutty and cheap.
The only girls I know that would actually turn someone down on the basis of him being "too nice" are all sluts, so they are not your average girl anyway.
A large proportion of men are "assholes", no debate about that. I don't believe most or even half of them are, though, but I would say nearly half of them are. I believe that a lot of males are assholes to begin with, but also a lot of males are assholes due to having to adapt that way to get what they want in life, and that involves a woman.
Let's be honest, have you seen a very attractive woman with a man that is nice, yet is unattractive physically? I have seen about two in my lifetime. I have however seen physically unattractive males with women when the male is a complete asshole.
I believe that the only time a woman is with an unattractive nice guy, is if she's only matching her level of attraciveness.
There is nothing wrong with wanting an asshole or the attractive partner, I don't see anything wrong with it. What I do have a problem with is that women will say all men are assholes simply because she picked the asshole that is obviously not right for her. I also dislike it when all women say "I just want a nice guy to love me, physical appearance doesn't matter", because we all know that physical appearance matters, and a lot of people know that women would rather pick the asshole over the nice guy, unless the nice guy has good looks. Is there any problem with that? No, but trying to claim they're morally pure in the area is wrong, not to mention irritating.
Obviously not all women are like this, but I would definetly say the majority are. None will admit to it, even when their actions betray their words.
Also, I don't really think that there's a very strong link between attractiveness and niceness:L If anything I find that most of the people I'd call asshiles are ugly and most nice guys are average to good looking, with a few exceptions (although thats kinda contradicting what I just said:p)
Anyhoo, I think labelling anbody as being either nice or an asshole is too simplistic. I think the vast majority of people act in nice ways sometimes and bad ways othertimes.
The kind of nice guys who can't get pussy are C and are comparable to flaccid dicks.
They have potential but no ambition.
There is a friend-zone and men do get stuck in it. Reason being is that they are stable, whereas these women that run around complaining "OMG there are nooooo good men left in the world!" or "Chivalry is dead" or, my favorite, "All the good ones are either gay or married" are UNSTABLE. They are emotionally unstable and a stable relationship with a nice guy that dresses decent, doesn't have major issues, will cook them dinner when they are sick, will stick by their sides for every pain in life, will even stick around for kids, because it BORES them!
He doesn't have swag, he isn't a G, a thug, he ain't cool, he ain't like that dude off of TV or from that magazine! She didn't have to fight for him, she is not the woman that changed him and she ain't fightin' for love. She finds a guy that loves her and will treat her like a princess until she's dead and cold and he is boring, doesn't have game, isn't a REAL MAN, doesn't have balls! But then they hit 35-40 and they realize that they actually NOW WANT a good, stable man that will raise their kids and love them whether or not their hair is perfect and their makeup looks great and their tits stay perky... and you know what I have to say to women like them?
Well he's mine now, bitches.
Good luck with your hunt for a half-douche half-nice guy.
I like testing things on my own skin - for many years I was the nice guy who would chat for hours, help and be very kind listening about your boyfriends and crap. Then I had enough of this. I'm still kind to strangers and other guys, but since i put females out of "possible friends" option- there was not a single case of friendzoning. Yes, I admit driving some girls away by not giving a f*ck, but it's rare and far between.
Because they're weak.