It's so cliche, and irritating. You tell a story about a fantasy or a fetish of some sort. Or just anything outside what society deems as "normal" and you need professional help.
Here's a tip to those of you who use this tired cliche phrase.
I've had professional help throughout my entire life. I'm on medication. I still have sick thoughts, especially when it comes to sexuality and violence. And nothing will ever change that FACT.
The great Popeye said "I am what I am and that's all that I am."
People like me can't be saved; not by God, not by medication, and not by any other Pseudo-professional psychotherapist.
Here's a tip to those of you who use this tired cliche phrase.
I've had professional help throughout my entire life. I'm on medication. I still have sick thoughts, especially when it comes to sexuality and violence. And nothing will ever change that FACT.
The great Popeye said "I am what I am and that's all that I am."
People like me can't be saved; not by God, not by medication, and not by any other Pseudo-professional psychotherapist.
And how do you know that others can be "saved." Are these shrinks doing Jesus' work now? We all know how doctors love to play god. Apparently that applies to the head shrinkers too.
Even though you quarrel with my lovely Lady Banana, I very muche appreciate your dedicatione to fighting againste "logic", "science", and a person's abilitye to be helped in the manner theye require!
Signed,
Sir Reginald Fisticuffs III
Secondly, I can attest to the "some people can be saved" claim. When I was 11, I was extremely depressed and suicidal. If it hadn't been for my therapy and medication, I have no doubt that I would've committed suicide. Different psychiatrists and therapists are different, of course, but I never got the impression that my doctor or my therapist were arrogant or trying to play god. I got angry at them sometimes (as one does in therapy), but most of what they did was listen and occasionally sort of poke me in the right direction.
I'm 22 now, and doing much better.
At this point, I don't think your battle should be to get rid of the thoughts. Honestly? I have thoughts about pregnant women getting raped by big black men (and if no one else did, there wouldn't be porn of it), what would happen if I killed someone where they stand, picturing gruesome car accidents and people being blown to bits...
But those are just thoughts, I'm a perfectly functional human being! I hold a full time job, I'm a full time college student, I am active in church and I am considered one of the "temple worthy" Mormons. Which is a very good Mormon.
Even the religious authorities of my church have told me that thoughts are just thoughts. Everyone has negative thoughts, to some degree or the other, but it is what we do with them that matters the most. And they've been asked that question before...
My advice to you, man? If you want to live a life that is in any way satisfying, then you're going to need to function (as in, be able to hold a job, pay your bills, etc.). If you need to get rid of those thoughts to do that then yes, you will need to seek professional help, and more than just the variety that you've accustomed yourself to.
If you can ensure that you will not murder and rape... then I don't see the big deal. So long as you function and treat others respectfully, in compliance with the laws and norms of your country, then think your thoughts! But if you can't comply with society... then you do not need to live in it and allow your behaviors to unfairly inhibit the lives and happiness of others, in which, case, you should either seek professional help or leave. Just go.
Either way. I understand your frustration, but professional help is intended to give you the tools to not only function, but lead a satisfying life. If you feel that you can do both and coincide with your inner demons, which we all have whether or not we'd like to acknowledge them, if you can learn to separate your thoughts, that particular room in your mind, from the rest of your personality, then fuck professional help, you've got more than many whom are considered sane!
Don't take it.
If you don't want the help of non-professionals:
Don't ask for it.
If you don't want to listen:
Stop talking.
Seriously that was a funny statement.
Anyway back to reality. Get on the RIGHT medication!
By the way 'stories' and 'fetishes' ARE normal, so you may need to elaborate on this peculiar abnormality, only if you want a truthful answer of course ;)
Also, I don't care about your religious beliefs, but I come from a fairly long lineage of "jesus freaks" that tell me to go find the lord and that he will save me.
But I'm not interested in religious discussion, there's enough of that here as is.
Look at me, I was such a nice kid. All that Catholic guilt and repression built up and now I'm a trouble maker :P Among other things. Definitely caused some deep seated issues, fear of my own body, etc.
Anyway, don't worry too much of this 'mocking', I personally feel that each person's fetishes are individual and personal only to them. Yes you can get similarities but never exactly the same.
Since I can't lay judgement on if these fetishes are normal or not, due to lack of known information on the subject! I'll just have to remain with my original comment. Hope it helped.
Sexual Sadism
Rape
Murder
Forced Incest
Mutilation
I'm kind of like Ted Bundy, only as of now mine are just thought crimes.
These things fascinate and excite me. Power and Fear excite me.
Therefore none of those are a concern, and are therefore normal.
Some people 'think' there is a god. I want to make that a crime. But oh well, I'll just have to make do with trying to publicly shame it to everyone. Well deserved I might add.
I have actually engaged in major crimes, and I'm perfectly fine mentally.
I wouldn't say you're like Ted Bundy, the main difference between people like Ted Bundy and lesser dangerous people is that he actually done those crimes instead of just thought about it.
Rape is a very popular fetish, I think it is the Japanese specificly that has a lot of fans of such porn.
Sexual sadism is also quite popular, I think the name would be bondage. I heard even some go further than average bondage aswell.
Abduction and murder are things people think about all the time, and a lot of people like to think about it, we like the idea, which is why there are so many media entertainment that involves those things.
Forced incest is bascically rape incest, we have already covered rape, and some people actually like the idea of incest, it isn't as common as the others on the list, but it isn't anything majorly bad, just uncommon.
Mutilation is quite like the murder thing, we have movies such as Saw and Hostal that is built on those things for people that enjoy it to watch, and since it is quite famous, obviously it must of had many fans.
Power excites everyone, and fear is a way of power.
Don't worry, I don't think you have much to fear, you don't sound like someone that would actually engage in major criminal behavior or be anymore dangerous to someone than the common man. Just my input.
You're absolutely right, in fact, other than Russia, Japan is the largest consumer of porn that involves rape and child sex in the world!
Also, as far as sexual sadism, incest, rape and mutilation goes, Germany claims the prize as far as porn consumption! It seems the OP would fit right in in Germany!
My thoughts are scholarly, yet they bring me intellectual pleasure. Your thoughts bring you pleasure. Are you and I so different?
As I said before, as long as you keep your thoughts just that, thoughts, then you are to be commended as many people commit the crime of forcing the results of their thoughts - actions - upon others. There's nothing wrong with being fascinated by thoughts and gore! You're a member of a species that once watched gladiator fights - two men mutilate each other- for entertainment!
Violence is natural, and evolution of intellect has yet to change the fact that, as a species, we are a violent one! It may have reduced the violence and the acceptability of the violence but it has yet to completely eliminate it!
You're no different from many of us, sir! But I will say again, if you feel that you can not live within the bounds of societal laws, then you should choose a society that condones violence... like... I don't know, possibly Ethiopia, Somalia?
There is a stigma on getting professional help. And sometimes when people say it, it comes off as condescending and insensitive. But these are your opinions on the matter, not theirs.
I have a friend who is a professional and I have to remind her that sometimes I want a friend, not a therapist. There is more than one way to work through a problem. And sometimes it requires a combination of treatments to find a balance. But succumbing to the belief that you cannot be saved does not make it true. What does being saved look like to you? I'm not asking what it looks like to someone else, but for you. What would make you come to terms with the person inside. If it is nothing, then you will get your wish. Do you know the roots of your thoughts?
So, are these just fascinations you have, or do you think about doing those things? If you seriously think about those things, maybe you DO need help before you act on those urges.
I watch some crime dramas (currently I'm revisiting Criminal Minds) and I think to myself "Man I could do worse than that" or "They wouldn't catch ME that easy" or "That girl had it easy with this perp"
When I should be thinking "Oh that poor girl."
when I was a kid my brother dropped something down the disposal and I thought about turning it on whilst his hand were in there.
I would imagine grabbing the kitchen knives and sticking them through my eyeballs.
I considered what it would be like to put a random in the same position i am in (lost a family member)
that's where it ends. they're sick thoughts. They don't represent (what i perceive to be) the "real" me so, they're not acted upon (obviously)
i'm a normal person. I've never sought professional help. Although, at times, i've considered it.
sounds like you're getting unwanted opinions and since they're all the same cliche "seek professional help" it's started to annoy you. Nobody wants to hear that shit.
everyone wants to be normal, to feel normal. idk.
who gives a shit what other people think. I've said it once and i'll say it again.
Do whatever the hell you want as long as you don't hurt or involve others unwillingly.