Well here i am with another post that might be "offensive" i guess if this offends you then your not someone i would value much anyway.
I believe all humanity should be seen as equal. Has it ever occured to you how brainwashed we are? Education, tv, news papers, Movies etc....
When it comes to war their is nothing the people in power want more than hard fighting brainwashed patriots who will "die for their country". Yey lets wave our flags and sing some bullshit anthem because we rock. Or how about we wake up and realise how fucking ignorent we are being? Our country is not a fucking team, how about team earth? That sounds much better, lets wave a flag for earth!
Look at the bigger picture, we are all humain, fuck supporting your country, how about we support the earth and humanity instead of usa or the uk? The governments are the problem not the people. People are not evil, entire populations dont just want to cause hurt and misery for no reason, they need someone "leading" them into it, making them belive what they are doing is right.
Our boys in afgan are not heros, they may be brave but they are not heros. How many innocent women and children have been killed over their? How many people have lost their lives fighting for a cause they no little about?
America have military bases all over the world, how would you feel if you had a trigger happy foreign army patroling your streets. Would you believe they were here to help? Even if they accidently blew up our towns and killed our civilians? We have the cheek to call people terrorists?
The USA is the biggest threat to our world right now, fuck terrorists. Do you realy believe that some robe wearing dudes in flip flops are a real threat to anything?
Yet again i advise you to think for yourself, dont be some mindless flag waving cunt ready to die for "your country", your government dont give a fuck about you, let them fight their own wars.
Soooo yea, patriotism annoys me for these reasons. IIN?
I believe all humanity should be seen as equal. Has it ever occured to you how brainwashed we are? Education, tv, news papers, Movies etc....
When it comes to war their is nothing the people in power want more than hard fighting brainwashed patriots who will "die for their country". Yey lets wave our flags and sing some bullshit anthem because we rock. Or how about we wake up and realise how fucking ignorent we are being? Our country is not a fucking team, how about team earth? That sounds much better, lets wave a flag for earth!
Look at the bigger picture, we are all humain, fuck supporting your country, how about we support the earth and humanity instead of usa or the uk? The governments are the problem not the people. People are not evil, entire populations dont just want to cause hurt and misery for no reason, they need someone "leading" them into it, making them belive what they are doing is right.
Our boys in afgan are not heros, they may be brave but they are not heros. How many innocent women and children have been killed over their? How many people have lost their lives fighting for a cause they no little about?
America have military bases all over the world, how would you feel if you had a trigger happy foreign army patroling your streets. Would you believe they were here to help? Even if they accidently blew up our towns and killed our civilians? We have the cheek to call people terrorists?
The USA is the biggest threat to our world right now, fuck terrorists. Do you realy believe that some robe wearing dudes in flip flops are a real threat to anything?
Yet again i advise you to think for yourself, dont be some mindless flag waving cunt ready to die for "your country", your government dont give a fuck about you, let them fight their own wars.
Soooo yea, patriotism annoys me for these reasons. IIN?
I'm from Britain, and I like a lot of the aspects of our culture and environment. One of the aspects of our culture I don't like is how passionately against patriotism so many of us are (especially my generation). We look to American stereotypical displays of patriotism and fascist examples of nationalism (BNP, Nazism) as representations of patriotism; we associate merely LIKING our own country as having some kind of extreme leaning (right or left).
Well I will say this. For me, the UK has a lot to be appreciative of. But there are negatives too. A desire for your country to change for the better is an expression of patriotism. It need not be a desire for your country to be SUPERIOR, or a desire for your country to be ISOLATED. Simply wanting better for your society and enjoying the positives is patriotism in my view.
It is a stance of optimism.
And I called you a douche since the comment sounded like something you just rambled off without much thought. I reserve the word cunt for someone who ignorantly and aggressively believes their stupidity e.g. patriots are cunts.
[pey-tree-uh-tiz-uhm or, especially Brit., pa-]
noun
devoted love, support, and defense of one's country; national loyalty.
I actually agree with almost everything you say, although I wouldn't put it quite as you say it.
I believe patriotism is not a logical way of thinking. I don't understand why someone would feel loyalty toward the part of the earth they were born on. Better to fight for everyone than to fight for your piece of rock.
I think it is important to make a distinction between two types of patriot:
1) The patriots are loyal to their country for its own sake.
2) The patriots who are loyal to their country because they have compared it to other countries critically and decided they like the way their country does things.
The first type of patriot is the one I don't like. Being blindly loyal to the place you are born has always struck me as close-minded and the sort of attitude that eventually breeds hatred of people from other places and who have different ways of seeing things. Supporting it in sports is different, because you are not supporting anything too serious or tangible. Supporting it in war just because you were born there effectively stops you from effectively criticising it, and without criticising things the world stays the same; there's no progress.
The second type of patriot I don't have a problem with. It would be more accurate to say that these people don't love their country, but I love what their country does. They don't love it just because their country does it, but because they genuinely believe it is the right thing to do after having looked at what other countries do. These people could still be called patriots, but are not unconditionally loyal.
Now for the things I don't agree with in what you say. I don't agree that the US is the biggest threat in the world, that prize goes to China and North Korea. But that's a whole other debate.
I'm up for debate and discussion if anyone wants it, just keep it clean and insult-free :)
Both undermine the sense of loyalty that one ought to have for the nation that gives them the freedom to criticize it, along with all the other rights and standard of living not found in many countries.
The greatest threat to our freedom today comes from Islam and fundamentalist muslims, next to their anarchist/radical leftist allies.
Time to deport them to the hell-holes (like Libya and Pakistan) they wish that our country was.
"the OP is probably a muslim or a leftist"
I dont disagree with what you have written but it is pretty irrelevant to my post as i am neither muslim or leftist.
From a proud New Zealander.
from Latin pater father.
If you call yourself a patriot, you are an authoritarian who agrees with a male dominated society.
The people of the USA are not the problem. The corrupt United States government is.
We should all try not to use -ists and -isms, as these only cause divisions among us.
United we stand, divided we fall. (Aesop)
The way I see it, being honestly critical of your country is the best way to show you like it, because you want to improve it and not unconditionally love it. But you're free to disagree.
It was once a very peaceful, tolerant and beautiful country under Buddhist and Hindu rule.
Then the barbarian Mohammad-freaks came along and destroyed it and turned it into the terrorist cesspool that it is today.
The only antidote is the elimination of Islam and the spreading of real freedom and democracy.
I strongly encourage you to educate yourself on this death cult and it's 1400 year history of warfare and massacres of non-muslims, the theft of their lands and eradication of their cultures.
It'd all be fine and dandy if this was ancient history-but unfortunately the same savages who raped and pillaged their way across several continents, are here now ready to do the same to us.
puh-lease most afgani civilians will give up 'intel' for half a sandwich.
And where did I say anything about 'intel'? Are you losing your grip on reality?
Haha. Elimination of Islam? No, no. You must mean elimination of Muslim people. In what other way can you eradicate the idea, if not by the people?
There is a far cry between militant Islamists and the civilians of Afganistan, who like I just implied are not depraved, but poor and hungry.
You can eradicate ideas by no longer accepting and supporting them. Islam is an ideology-a set of beliefs/ideas that are independent of people. Ideas are open to criticism and elimination if they're shown to be harmful-and Islam is definitely very harmful as we can see only a daily basis with the terrorism, honor-killings and warfare against us non-muslims.
Theoretically Islam can be eliminated without harming a single muslim. But however it is done, Islam needs to be banned because it incites hatred, violence and subjugation or killing of non-muslims.
So Islam is as much a threat to free people as Nazism once was. Whether it is eliminated by 'peaceful' means or by warfare makes no difference to me. If muslims want to wage war against us non-muslims they will get one.
The so-called 'militants' are no different than the 'civilians' in Afghanistan because they are part of the same belief system. What idiot would divide Nazis into civilians and militants? Poverty has nothing to do with it-most terrorists tend to be educated and wealthy or middle-class.
Really? I just want one example of a successfully eradicated idea. Seriously. I'm afraid it would be impossible to produce proof to you're claim; producing an example would mean that the idea is still circulating and is not eradicated.
The real world is not a theoretical place.
Their being part of the same belief system does not make them inclined to terrorism, much like belief in Jesus does not make one a follower of the Westboro Church. It is called a system for a reason.
What idiot would imply that all Germans are Nazis?
Open a history book and look at the cultures and civilizations that Islam has obliterated-including Eygptian and Zoroastrian.
Nazism was largely eliminated through warfare-though the ideas live on in fringe quarters, they are no longer a dominant force/threat.
What is theoretical about muslims shooting little Jewish girls in the head or burning Christian churches in Egypt, or jailing people for criticizing Islam? This death cult is actively destroying lives in the real world.
Who said all muslims are terrorists? Terrorism is just one tactic in the overall goal of destroying democracy and having Islam reign supreme in every country in the world. The so-called 'moderate' muslims are a much greater threat than the radical/terrorist muslims.
And where did I imply all Germans are Nazis? Do you have some kind of reading disorder?
Who said all muslims are terrorists? "so-called 'militants' are no different than the 'civilians' in Afghanistan"
Where did you imply all germans are nazis?:
"fascist and genocidal ideologies like Nazism and Islam"
"Islam is as much a threat to free people as Nazism once was"
"so-called 'militants' are no different than the 'civilians' in Afghanistan"
With this have you implied that Nazis were no different than German civilians.
I find your first comment absolutely reprehensible.
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Do you know what I am holding up?
Let's see if I can spell out in simple terms an infantile mind like yours can grasp:
is there such a thing as a civilian Nazi and a militant Nazi? or are all Nazis, Nazis?
now apply that to Muslims, which are not an ethnicity, like the Nazis they are followers of a fascist totalitarian ideology that seeks to destroy those unlike them.
I don't think you'll be able to get this so I'm not going to bother wasting my time any further you on.
Not all Germans are German Nazi's but all Afganis are Afgani Islamists? You can repeat the same theme 10 times over, it's not going to justify its utter lack of substance. You should retreat into a cave and have some quiet time.
All Nazis are Nazis right idiot? Likewise all Muslims are Muslims.
What you're trying to say is that some muslims are really atheists or christians, this is just muslim apologetics taken to absurd proportions.
When you're a follower of an ideology, then you belong to it. Whether you're Afghani, african, chinese, paki, the moment you claim to be a muslim then you are an adherent of that ideology.
99% of Afghanis are muslims. So for you to try to separate ethnicity from religion in this case is retarded, unless the afghani is of another belief.
Just as it would be stupid to divide Nazis into 'radical' and 'moderate' same goes for muslims.
And this logic holds even truer when you examine Islam, which is nothing more than a death cult whose aim is to eradicate non-muslims like me and establish Islamic rule over the entire planet.
All sects of Islam hold to these basic tenets, even if their beliefs are slightly different.
But keeping bringing it, I'll keep schooling you. I'm very well versed on this subject as you will learn.
So, you can keep regurgitating the same diarrhea, and embracing your whole 'eradication' solution but it's not going to make a difference in the world. You're an average pussy that hides behind a computer, who claims to know what happens and who lives in Afghanistan, though you've never been there and wouldn't dare.
I chuckle at the irony. The people most sympathetic to Afgani civilians are ones ordered to put the basal end of a service rifle to a child's jaw. Versus those who characteristically cry for the elimination of Islam, sitting behind the cloak of anonymity, droning on endlessly. It's okay! I get it! Many people want a lot of things done, as long as they do have to do it of course.
Typical shoddy muslim debating tactics, resort to reductio ad absurdum and create straw-man arguments which you knock down without addressing what I actually said-since you are too mentally feeble to refute my stated claims.
Nowhere did I state 'all muslims are terrorists', I said there is no distinction between 'radical' and 'moderate' muslims in Islam, because the goal of nearly all muslims is the same-to eliminate disbelief in Allah and establish Islamic rule/state. Any muslims who reject sharia and such Islamic goals/mandates is considered an apostate.
I can say the same about you-you're an 'average muslim pussy' who wages your jihad online because you're too much of a coward to actually fight infidels IRL.
The only people brutalizing Afghani children are their fellow muslims. If you believe otherwise, you're a fool or you're just very brainwashed.
As for eradication of Islam, there's nothing difficult about it, if the West had the will to do it, Islam could be relegated to the history books within a few years.
The more that muslims riot and kill over cartoons, blow up buses trains/themselves, smash planes into buildings, honor-kill their daughters, burn churches, cause rape epidemics of non-muslim females, the more the West will see the real Islam for what it is and work to eliminate it. Our love of freedom is greater than your love for your pedophile prophet and your evil, dark ages death cult.
-Oscar Wilde
Of course if that country is being ruled by fascists or a thug state, then he is justified even obligated to oppose them, but otherwise in a democracy he should be a supporter of the state that gives him the life he enjoys-which cannot be found in undemocratic states.
What kind of tard just assumes someone is american and then trys to call someone on it.
Learn who he was before you argue and preach stupidity, then you'll know what it is you're actually arguing about!
His place of origin is completely irrelevant to his claim. But since you obviously cannot refute what I've stated you think you've "won" simply because I didn't bother to look up the origins of the author.
Who actually bothers to look up such trivial information (as the author's place of birth) when someone posts a quote-especially when it has little to no relevance to the subject at hand?
But since you want to split hairs, let's talk about your idiotic statement then: "He can't be a traitor as he was irish not american. "
So wait, Irishmen cannot be traitors, only Americans can? lol, dumbass.
You'd come off looking a little smarter if you actually attempted to defend Wilde's statement rather than nitpick about him not being an American. Who gives a fuck either way. If he was from Nigeria, his statement would still be traitorous. Deal with that you pissant.
I'm sure I can name a dozen authors that you wouldn't know their place of birth-so would that make you stupid?
What was stupid for you to take this weak line of argumentation that now has just backfired on you.
Thats why-
"His place of origin is completely irrelevant to his claim" is bullshit.
"He can't be a traitor as he was irish not american. "
- i never said any of this, you did.
But yes, he wasn't.
"Who actually bothers to look up such trivial information (as the author's place of birth" - I didn't, i was educated so ofcourse i know who he was. He's quite famous, it's common knowledge you dumbass.
This whole argument was you making the assumption that he was a traitor and american, got it wrong on both accounts, and then tried to tell me it's irrelevant. While putting words in my mouth as i haven't even said ANYTHING yet except that you shouldn't call someone a traitor if you don't even know who they were or what they did.
Whats to defend? Learn irish history, learn about the IRA. It speaks for itself that he was no traitor, and isn't regarded as one.
Thats why im not defending him. Because I assumed you knew who he was in the first place, and therefore knew i was right.
Deal with that you pissant.
Ps. It makes one stupid to assume a persons a traitor, without knowing if they were or weren't infact a traitor (seriously derrrr).
Because there is no comeback at all to that.
― G.K. Chesterton, The Defendant
Did it happen to mention that the United States government was actively pursuing many of the same policies as the Nazi Germany government was? Indeed, even after the war, the United States government adopted more Nazi policy.
Do you actually believe that you can come and go as you please today? Maybe not with checkposts and machine guns, but with technology, they are monitoring your every move. Step out of line, and they will come at you with semi-automatic weapons.
Heil Obama, Heil Romney!
Although the Holocaust did happen, why do they portray it as only Jews being killed? Many other people (deemed to be unfit for society) were killed as well, but little is heard about them Could it be that the U.S. Government does not want it resurfacing that they had their own Eugenics program? So about 7 million people died because of the Nazi Eugenics Progam. Meanwhile, Franklin D. Roosevelt and Winston Churchill were having tea with Josef Stalin, who is responsible for brutally killing and starving about 17 million people. Why do we hear so little about them?
Now we can continue griping about these injustices of the past, which does nothing because those responsible are now all dead, or we can look towards the future, correct the injustices of today, so these kind of events do not occur again.
I hope one day humanity unites, and I do believe a new form of goverment should be in place, a goverment ruled by the people, not rules by representatives, like it should be; the people in power.
But, it will never be that cut and dry, or it will take thousands of years for it to ever come to true peace.
The key words in your message are, "massive groups". If you know it's coming, why not do something about it? Why create these "massive groups" in the first place? It really is an individual decision, but if you decide to limit your reproduction to one child, this can be averted. You can also talk to your friends and family about doing this also.