People dislike me as they say I am arrogent.

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i think your an arrogent bitch

Perhaps it's the way you talk to them, try getting down to their level, or just don't let them bother you. Ever since I was a child I can remember people not liking me, even adults. It has of course followed me as an adult, and I get pretty confused when strangers are nice to me. I always wondered if it was b/c I was short, but I think it's because I'm smart and maybe even pretty, I don't know if that's the case. I know I must not be ugly, because I seem to get a lot of attention from guys, and the girls don't like me much. HAHA. I say I don't care but I do wish people wouldn't judge me right off the bat, but if they do that you have to think, would you really want them as a friend anyway?

Ill comment on your post to make you feel beeter. This post was utter shit

Agreed. Post about something more interesting, like a turd on your lawn.

I think a turd on YOUR lawn is more interesting, since my lawn has thousands of deer turds on it, and none of them very fascinating.

and the junkster probably has more moose shit on his lawn then you'd want to know about.

You're on, bitch. Meet me at this address so we can compare turds:

@flikr

Hey, you don't Know me well enough to call me bitch! Am I arrogent? I honestly don't know, though I don't think so. It's Not arrogence when one can back it up.

@Homer

Nice. Cute. A cheap shot about my chair - I expected more from you, wait, From You, no I didn't. Funny thing is, wheels and all, I am Still more woman than you've ever had without paying.

I just wonder about myself at times. Helps to keep me grounded.

The Divine Ms. O.

that's not what i'm saying ew. not what i'm saying at all.

well, if you're happy with who you are don't worry about what people think of you :) self confidence is a blessing, as long as you don't make other people feel small

i think there's a youtube video of a moose stomping someone repeatedly.

I always like to leave a sig. there was a time here when there would be a lot of fake posts by people Pretending to be other people - besides, I deserve all the adjectives I can get.

Still, "Divine" is not the only expression I qualify for. And no, it is Not arrogence if one can back it up - in that event, it is merely honesty.

@Homer

Dude YOU are a case. I would agree to donate a kidney if I could find One post you've made without the word "ni...." in it.


The Eternally Effervescent Ms. O.

no offense, but i think you're fake :D good impression though.

"One of the main gripes I have about other people is that frequently they say I am arrogent."

If you really are as your post suggests, the "other people" would be correct. It just means that you tend to see yourself as more important or worth more than you really are. If your post isn't meant to just stir up a reaction for your own entertainment then it is clearly so. Perhaps you're just getting caught up on the semantics.

You're arrogant? So what. So are a lot of people. It won't win you a congeniality award, but ultimately it doesn't matter what other people think of you.

I'm the one and only, pooltoy. If you're the same guy from "the old place" here, you ought to know that.

Tobra - Often copied, Never surpassed.

"ultimately it doesn't matter what other people think of you"

no it doesn't. except if you want to be loved. But is it better to be loved or feared?

Now THAT is the question for the ages. I am still unsure.

"Let those who FEAR me, FOLLOW me. Let those who oppose me perish!"
- Ghengis Khan

Always liked that quote. When I was a little girl I had a goal to become "Supreme Ruler of the Earth" - yeah, childish I know.

It was only later that I realized that most of the dolts out there are unworthy of my leadership.

Found a nice guy now.

Tobra

"Found a nice guy now"

lol, that's a funny statement coming right after you've just compared yourself to Ghengis Khan.

well your guy is very lucky indeed. I hope he can fully appreciate the complex sexy woman he now has the pleasure of knowing and exploring.

that is if you really ARE tobra....how come you don't use your old account? you weren't banned.

I dunno.

I tried using my old acct but couldn't get it to work, soooooo.

I have a better 'tude now anyway. :)

"The problem really is, I feel, that many people are intimidated by a strong, beautiful woman such as myself. They cannot handle the fact that I AM as wonderful (Smart, sexy) as I am and they fear measuring up to my standard."

Speaks for itself....

Amen.

People can't handle it.

And as I have said, I often tell these kinds of people that, if they cannot stand me being the best at what I do, it should inspire them to try harder.

Now that I know
The things I know
I do the thing I do
And if this means
You don't like me so
Then to Hell my love
With you.

Tobra Marie - Near Perfection In Heels ;)

Hello Tobra Marie,

I wrote a poem years ago about arrogance and I would suggest you go ahead and allow yourself to spell it correctly, otherwise it's a bit like that "W" that's been told time and time again that it is spelled and pronounce "nu cle ar."

I can only imagine that either you met the nice guy or happed into a wheel chair "a year or so ago" either way I'm sorry and joyful for you simultaneously, as we generally come to realize everything that we get is always a gift.

Here's my struggle to define that of which you speak:

Self-confidence is not arrogance.
Self-confidence is not confidence in self, but in one's connectedness to all things.
Arrogance is fear bound confidence in the already accomplished.
Copyright © 2003, DontKnow

...or...

Self-confidence is not really confidence in your individual self but security in your self's role and place in the connectedness to all that is.
Copyright © 2003, DontKnow

Arrogance is confidence in the infinitesimal separate ego self born of the perceived dominance over its smallness.
Copyright © 2003, DontKnow

Self-awareness is not self-consciousness.
Self-consciousness is loathsome and fearful.
Self-awareness is accepting and loving.
Copyright © 2003, DontKnow


I highly recommend reading (several times and for the rest of your life) the Tao te Ching. I particularly like Stephen Mitchell's translation, as it honors the feminine well.

http://taodeching.net/dnn45/TaodeChingTranslations/tabid/615/Default.aspx

In it is where you will find this on your leadership quandaries...

17
When the Master governs, the people
are hardly aware that he exists.
Next best is a leader who is loved.
Next, one who is feared.
The worst is one who is despised.

If you don't trust the people,
you make them untrustworthy.

The Master doesn't talk, he acts.
When his work is done,
the people say, "Amazing:
we did it, all by ourselves!"

-Lao Tzu

you talk really funny.

@PoolTOY
Thanks! albeit, there's a typo or two in there.
i.e., should be:
happened (not happed)
"W" character who's (not "W" that's)
and there should be no cut-&-pasted Copyright between the 2nd Self-confidence juxtapose Arrogance piece.
But you knew that already.
So much for over-reliance upon spellcheckers - oops.
Thanks for the post.

sure. but i still say you talk funny. :D you must be a rara avis.

some of my best friends are rara avi, btw

@PoolTOY
So Audubon Society member or closet ornitholgist? Either way you appear to appreciate the sighting.

Speaking of sightings, where's Tobra? And how'd you come to be accused of stealing her "original" moniker?

just learning how this works...
See above, as I originally did not post as a reply :)

i think you pretty gorgeous... and look like you have a nice personality...
and seem to be nice... and innocent...

Innocent?

Moi?

Ahh mon petite'... not for awhile now. LOL.

Thanks for comments, all.

October Marie - IIN Diva

Moi?

Oui vois, Brute'

Tobra

I think you come off as arrogant because you are in love with yourself. Not that it's totally a bad thing. It's good to have a healthy amount of confidence. I think that the 'arrogance' you find it to be is that these people don't think you're as wonderful as you think you are. And from my POV, heres why:

It might be that in general, other people are the judges of someone who is beautiful and 'brilliant', not the person claiming it about themselves.

Others may not think that of you and not say it to your face because it's rude. (In your case, they'd probably just end up saying you're full of yourself instead of actually saying "hey, I don't think you're too smart and beautiful to handle"). And normally they won't want to be around someone constantly flattering themselves.

On the other hand, there are people in your life who probably do think you're smart and beautiful, those who don't mind you saying that about yourself.

In my case, if I were to flatter myself, I would say that yes: I believe I'm pretty, and more intelligent than not, but I am actually soft-spoken about it and don't try explaining it or expressing it to other people. Other people don't want to hear it

Get what I'm saying? I hope you don't think I'm trying to be rude. Take care.

Try spellcheck. It's spelled arrogant, not arrogent.

Did that sound arrogant ? lol...

I admit that one of my faults is a lousy apptitude in spelling.

iin diva

tmb

I've seen too many of your comments lately to think you're arrogant.

You seem like a very self confidant woman. And probably one of the few smarter people on the website.

Dont let it get you down. We all have tough days.

The way you talk, is arrogant. I can already see it like that. It is so obvious. People might not be jealous of you, and yet you are so sure that people are jealous of you. That IS arrogance. And arrogant people don't gain people's favor. That is why, people disliking you is perfectly normal.

I feel your pain.

Work on yourself, I can be an example.

OMB

That was kinda funny, you have an arrogant nature. I bet I could find so many cracks and flaws by meeting you. I'm sure there is hope, unfortunately it seems like you would have to learn the hard way, which is not likely.

I have to say, you kind of came off as somebody who would be arrogant, maybe you should try toning it down a bit, my friends, aren't so great with big words, but since my mom used them all the time growing up it is a habit to use them sometimes, but if i just tone it down a bit, everything is fine. If you don't want people to see you as arrogant, or full of yourself, try a little modesty, don't talk so fondly about your high points, let people see them for themselves, sometimes biting your tongue is the best thing to do.

Arrogant is just an adjective.

For the linguistically gifted like yourself, a noun for you is NARCISSIST.

Perfection-in-heels is more apt.

Tobra

Wow, you're really arrogant, and that is why I dislike you! lol.

If you think all the people around you are so inferior to you then why care if they like you or not? The fact that your posting here indicates that you have a hidden insecurity, you know deep down that your not all that.

You're probably annoyed that people don't think highly of you, and compensate by going into narcissistic overdrive.

When you realize that other people are just as good (and/or bad) as you you might develop some friendships.

You're definitely extremely arrogant. Unbelievably.

Wow. Can this post be a ploy to get people all in an uproar? Is it a lame attempt to portray someone you are not? If not let me say get help. You sound as if you might have a narissistic personality disorder which in the end will leave you feelling superior but utterly alone. Also despite what you may think other people are not as interested in you as you think. Here's the deal the majority of people are not measuring themselves up to you. The truth is we are all way to busy thinking of ourselves to be worried about how we stack up to you. If you were as beautiful as you think you are you would most likely be a model and therefore not on here posting. Most people will only call someone arrogant if they feel the esteem in which a person holds themselves is unrealistic. Models aren't called arrogant even when they talk about how beautiful they are because people agree that they are as beautiful as they think they are. Genisus aren't arrogant when they talk about their smarts, etc.... if people are calling you out its not jealousy, its out of frustration. If people called you a bragger then we would know you were as beautiful smart and sexy as you think you are, people call you arrogant so we know you have an inflated unfounded and narcissistic view of yourself. Get help or be alone. Your choice.

You sound like you are Right Brain Dominant and highly intelligent. You said you have poor spelling... do you like to read? Do you think in pictures, not words? Is math VERY tough for you? (I can tell you are incredibly well spoken, so that answers my next question) Do you often find yourself alienated because no one understands you? Do you sometimes feel that most people, (50-99%) act or are of the same mentality of, children, or like children? Are you constantly thinking and updating your personal store of knowledge? Are you sloppy sometimes? Unorganized? Do you think outside of the box? Love music? Love art? Do art? Play music? You are probably not arrogant, just highly gifted.

you sound like me.

Arrogance is a third-party perception of who they think you are. This means they are the judge of arrogance and not you. This doesn't mean that you are arrogant, the fact is you probably are highly intelligent but this high opinion of yourself reflects onto the outside and makes you seem arrogant. Are you a bad liar? This is probably why. Arrogance is simply confidence envied by those around you. Simple as.

Yes I think in terms of pictures, spelling is difficult for me and math is...well, lets just say I got in trouble not long ago for not paying taxes for a few years, I figured if the gov needed anything they'd let me know.

Wrong.

Anyway, I worry.

arrogance... I worry, but I have been of the mind that one is only arrogant if one cannot back it up.

I can.

Still, I like to set an example for others, and I hate the idea of people (even jealous people) thinking I am full of myself when I am just trying to set an example for them.

BTW - I Could have been a model, I think, if I was not, err, horizontally challenged. I have a twin sister and she did a little modeling at one time.

October Marie

Hmmm. Yeah most likely. I have become so arrogant I don't care if people think I'm arrogant unless it gets in the way of persuading them. lol.

If you're as great as you say you are, you wouldn't have posted this. You'd be spending your time with all the people that adored you for the qualities you say you possess.

Pft.
You cannot compare to my status as a god. Maybe you should just try harder to match up to my genius self. I am the epitome of perfection, the Stradivari of humankind itself. I am someone you should strive to be as amazing as. If you think otherwise then you're just complaining like the rest and unable to admit the sophistication of my being. I'm not even sure if someone like you can even fathom the pure caliber of my greatness. Seriously, I'm smart, handsome, and gifted. You just can't match up.

Yea...
Something like that...
One word to describe you: douche
Seriously, "they fear measuring up to my standard"???
Not even close. It's something much simpler. No one likes a douche.

Judging from you're responses to other posts, it seems that you are educated enough to at least realize this, but apparently not. Now believe me when I tell you that you're a bit*h. Teaching retards like you is a pain when they don't accept that they're arrogant.

Ok yea..
Excuse the strong use of flaming, it was to emphasize the point by trying to act arrogant (I'm not sure if it worked or not though). It's not that they're scared of comparing themselves to you or anything. I don't even know where you get those ideas from, seriously. It's just the fact that no one likes that attitude. It has nothing to do with being intimidated or whatever you were crapping on about. You say that you're just trying to set an example, but it's essentially still arrogant when you say that you're example is the best out there. Tone's a big deal too. It sets the way your words come out. The tone in you're response to XxINCHAINSxX was a lot less arrogant than the tone of your original post. The part where you said that you spoke from an arrogant point of view was a lot less arrogant than some of the other posts. In my opinion, there is no reason behind the hate of those who dislike your arrogance. However, if you think about it, love is the exact same way. Human emotions are pretty much unjustified. So yea, people dislike you for the simple reason that you're arrogant, not for some other random "my standard" crap.

Anyway, the easiest way to solve this is to become less arrogant (kind of duh). Just add something like "I could be wrong", or "That's just my opinion at least" to the end of you're sentences. Another way is to seriously just not even tell anyone about being smart, awesome, epic, or whatever. Think about it. Does anyone even really care in the first place? Does anyone even need to know??? Just limit the arrogant comments to your own head.

Yea... I kinda wrote a lot...
Not even sure if everything I wrote was answering you're question. This is all my opinion so ignore it if you want. The truth is that I don't have much confidence in what I say, so everything I typed could just be ramblings.

See what I did there? It's true that I don't really trust in what I say, but that could be interpreted as an example of avoiding arrogance.

Oh, and no, this is not normal. :P

Arrogance - overbearing pride evidenced by a superior manner toward inferiors.

Or rather, perceived inferiors. There is nothing in there about whether or not you can back up your arrogance. Like "emptiness" said, it's your attitude that people don't like. Simple as that. I used to be the same way, but my life has improved so much ever since I realized that I'm just a speck of dust in a vast universe.

I'm probably better than you at programming, writing and performing music, and singing, but I'm not arrogant because I recognize that you have your own strengths as well, and if you don't have any strengths greater than mine then that's too bad, but how could I expect you to be any other way? You have your history and I have mine.

Arrogance stems from insecurity and a need to prove yourself. And it also prevents you from realizing this.

People are right, you are arrogant.

Yes you are arrogant very arrogant
guess what the world doesnt revolve round ya
i hope you learn that the hard way because i am being a terrbile person right now

~Helpplz
I aim for controversy

you are so completely arrogant it is not funny
BUT that is just your personality. Your mistake is your tone and the fact that you assume that a lot of people are jeolus of you . (the post even sounds a bit whiny now that i think about it). However if you believe that you are as perfect as you say you are than the comments of others shouldn't bother you. (after all they are simply "inferiors"). the fact that people are even complaining shows that they already acknowledge that you have worth. In the end i would simply suggest being a bit more praising of others(though no backhand compliments) and a bit more humble.
(also... sorry for the long comment in order to explain such a simple thing)

if multiple people tell you you're arrogant you probably are. they probably are jealous of you but there's no need to go around rubbing it in people's faces. i bet i'm smarter sexier and more successful than you, how bout i come and knock you down a few notches, eh?

The men who are intimidated by your intelligence are unworthy of you and would not make you happy. Real men appreciate women who are intelligent, self assured and successful.

youre arrogant. i hate arrogance...

Yes you may be a confident, srtong woman,and people probably all ready know that, so don't go telling them every muinute of the day. I don't mean that in a rude way, it's just I know people like you:my whole family, and I try and tell them in a nice way, and they don't listen.
You need to be a little less forward with your confidence. If you are confident, people get that automatically, so don't go and throw it into their face like my sister always does. Then they won't 'hate' you as much for it.

In friendships both people have to do their part. & if you see that your accomplishments make your friends feel small, well i guess do not show them off, but by all means do not stop yourself from doing things that make you happy. & if your friends do not accept you and your accomplishments well find more confident friends or try to help your friends feel more confident.

Sexier than moi? Maybe. Anything is possible, though you bio page says you are male, and male standards of beauty usually can't hold a candle to those of females.

SMARTER than moi? Perhaps not, but, as I say, anything is possible.

Take me down a peg? Oh I think not. :)

I have been in hosptial for awhile, but now "The Divine Ms. O" -

- Is Back

October Marie

hey it seems like you have solid elf esteem by giving yourself credit when due and assertive. people may think that you are mean and arrogant because of this. for the most part, i myself treat myself alright but the kicker is that i value modesty. i think if you do that your whole life would change for the better because some things can be bypassed an not said or insuated. i hope people will start to feel comfortable around yo so you can with them. best of luck!

Damn your an arrogant bitch...

you were kinda gloating even if you didint recognize it you need to pick your words carefully

This is the single greatest troll in the history of the Internet.
There is not a number to express how successful this troll has been. I have never, in my entire life, in my entire existence, raged as hard as I did reading this post.

On the off chance you are actually serious about all of this, then you need HELP. There's arrogance, but this rises far above the graph of that. You need, desperately, someone to take you down a peg, because, and honestly, I have no idea how you're still alive. From this post alone, I can tell that you are to be one of the most despicable of people I have ever, and will ever meet.

TL;DR version:
Successful troll is successful.

Lady...you are arrogant big time. You think of yourself as so superior to the masses around you *as you so-told us yourself*, but do not think that you are the sexiest and all that, that is unjust and apparently very very weird. Did you have too much sex when you were a teen or something? Or like masturbated like crazy? Cause saying you are sexy and strong..that's weird...completely weird. And no, you are not strong, if you were, you wouldn't need the feel to make everyone like you.

I'm the exact same way. Whenever someone doesn't know how to do something and I jump in to try to help by giving suggestions or do it myself someone says I'm arrogant and a know-it-all. One thing I realized is that the best thing to do is to sit back and when they fail pick up the pieces but don't gloat and say they did it wrong. And p.s that pool toy guy is on this site too much to be giving advice and then claim they can decide so many matters.

Keep your comments to yourself. Somebody are just naturally dumb and truely arrogant, and there's nothing you can do about it. People don't like to be belittled. Just keep the know-it-all comments to yourself and you're likely to make a few friends.

You say you try hard to educate.......are the people you 'educate' ASKING for this information? That is a question you need to ask yourself whenever the situation arises.

What is it you have contibuted to the human race. While you believe you have self awareness there is an evident lack of introspection as you feel the need to voice your brilliance as to confirm it to yourself. Those who are humble with thier achievements and abilities have self acceptance than the 'empty vessel that makes much noise,. If you begin to actually become more aware of who you really are you will understand that your deep rooted insecurities are manifested in arrogance. Just because you believe you are something does not make it true. However I dont want to judge you but I have yet to read any litrature that you have published and have not been privy to any of your amazing discoveries that are about to set the world to right with your genius.A beautiful,intelligent woman such as yourself must surely realise that if you have to force how amazing you are on everybody and disscuss yourself that this amounts to self absorbtion which is the mind and soul in stagnation trapped alone in the 'playground of your mind, not exactly a hotbed for intellectual development. You say you like to read over your posts,try to gain some insight from this and use it for growth and development.

i dont ever think someone is arrogant or anything . if people think you are let them think that , you`ve got your own life to think about . You got only one life, why spend it caring about what the haters think ? :) your probably a strong independant woman who everybody wants to be :) cause your not self concious and you think your smart . LET THEM DEAL WITH IT . dont think anything low of yourself just cause people say sh*t :)

I think you sound pretty arrogant Ms October. While you may very well be better at some things and a good looking person you have very poor people skills. Letting people know that you think you are better than them even if you are is what makes you unlikable and offends people. It's rude. If your attitude wasn't so poor and you learned a little bit of humbleness people will admire and compliment you on what you do well. Stop praising yourself.....

Obviously if no one likes to be around you it's because you're unlikable not because they wish they could be more like you.

that comment was not meant to be @drizzyFTW I just hit the reply button at the bottom of the page without realizing it would do that

Best troll attempt ever.
I especially like the way you purposefully misspell words to come off as sincere as possible.

YEAH WAT THE PERSON ON TOP OF ME SAID!

************WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWW***************

SERIOUSLY YA MIGHT AS WELL SAID I AM IN LOVE WITH MYSELF SOMEONE NEEDS TO KICK YOU OFF OF YOUR HIGH HORSE

P.S. NO ONE IS INTIMIDATED BY YOUR BEUTY DO YOU EVER THINK PEOPLE DONT LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE A BITCH

I think you might be deluded.
Bright people don't say they're bright because they tend to be humble. They also know that it's usually pointless to say it.

Besides, who the fuck is named Tobra? A retarded dog? Man that name alone proves 100% that you're full of yourself.

oh, and lastly, the way you type can tell a bit about you, such as your arrogance. One of my friends is very, very bright but doesn't radiate anywhere near as much arrogance as you do when he types.

You are all wrong to call her arrogant. Tobra: I am also a victim of this feeling of loss that you are experiencing. Ever since I went back to school and started learning things and actually advancing my life, I have lost more and more of my long standing friendships...mostly because these people either refused to talk on MY level or because they were (at least they seemed to be) jealous that they were still stuck in their rut, as it were. I don't think this makes me superior in any way. I find that it makes me different though. An academic life is merely one type of "successful" life and finding what makes you successful is more important than clinging to what makes others successful. If you feel like people are downgrading you, then they probably are and this is exactly the sort of jealously of which I speak. Look at these pissants: they can only deride you, for their entire existence revolves around their voluntary ignorance. Keep going and keep living...you are not meant to simply exist: LIVE.
As for most of the rest of you, maybe you should try to think about life from other people's perspectives. Maybe then you could find something that makes you "better" and different from others. The angst of a teenager is acceptable as a growth process toward maturity, but the angst of a disgruntled, ignorant adult is self-inflicted. Grow up.

yes

If I knew you, I would probably be dating you. I can't seem to find a smart AND good looking woman. Unless you aren't really that good looking, and by the nature of your post, you really aren't that smart. Asking for advice over the internet? Asking for sympathy for being smart? All you will get is a bunch of people, as seen above, yelling at you and each other. Unless you intended this to be a breeding ground for hate.

tl:dr

You are not smart or good looking. You are very full of yourself, and I wish you can see yourself and change before you loose all of your remaining friends.

Yes, you are arrogant.

Arrogant people think they are better than others.

You think you are better than others.

Here is what you typed:

"I try to set an example, but most dolts are unworthy of my input."

"I see no reason to hide my overall natural brilliance in general."

"They cannot handle the fact that I AM as wonderful (Smart, sexy) as I am and they fear measuring up to my standard."

"if they can't stand me being the best at what I do..."

"I try so hard to educate the masses around me..."

----

If someone was having a converation with you and they said the things you said, and lumped you into the category of the ignorant masses you would probably see what arrogance is, but since you are the one doing it--YOU can't see it!

So listen to this: "I try so hard to educate the masses around me, including YOU, but most dolts including YOU are unworthy of my input."

I think you're the product of someone's imagination. Why don't you go read a few books first before you try to be clever and impersonate some one-dimensional stereotype for the sake of the attention you'll get online

Oh I am the Real Deal, ask anyone who has been here for a few years (though I don't get to grace this place with my presence as much these days!

Though I agree that a lot of guys like You WOULD imagine someone as classy, sexy and smart as Moi - if only for very brief amounts of time.

@ esreverlogic (9945)

Moi is Not good looking? Check my profile pic and get back to me on that one, tiger. Try not to drool upon your keyboard.

I have PLENTY of friends, thanks. I try to set an example, and online I have a few good friends. People are so jealous that sometimes it is difficult.


Tobra - Near Perfection in Heels!

Ok...well, maybe you are real. It looks like you have some sort of disability. I won't pry, but being disabled doesn't give you an excuse to act like a jerk towards everybody. I have problems myself, but if I go around telling people they're idiots and I'm a genius, I'll get skewered just like the next pompous asshole who comes along. I mean; what are you not able to see here?

And what's with the Ms. Piggy 'tude?

Ms Piggy 'Tude?

I don't GET you. Yes, I am real, in fact, I used to be more active here - before things went south for a time.

Yes, I have a disability. I have a form of bone disease that makes my bones brittle in the extreme, thus I spend most of my time in a chair and try to avoid football scrums (LOL)

I just don't see myself as arrogent, though I am perfectly will to agree that the possibility is there. I am young, beautiful, intelligent, sexy and well spoken (though my spelling sucks) and when one has all THAT...

Well it is only Arrogence when one cannot back it up. Moi can! :)

Still, it could be that I am stuck on myself A Little, even if I try not to be.

Thanks. :)

The Divine Ms. O.

I think your perfectly normal! i to find my self being belittled by people all around me who will say i'm a smartarse or arrogent when i'd get good grades and achieve with my a/a 's I don't shove it in there faces or anything but time and time again they still think like this and are too lazy, i will take the incentive approach thank you .

you having a bone disease doesnt mean you can be such a terrible deuche towards anyone.

jebus christ, you are not even smart, that kind of common smart that people gain through the years, you know? you behave like some teen cheer leader, full of herself and feeling a bit more beautiful everyday.

i had to remove a breast tumor at the age of 17. i kept my breasts and my hair, even through chemo, but tomorrow, next week, next month, i might have to go through the same thing, all over again. should i pronounce myself as the next 'educator of the masses'..?

this is just..not normal. you are cruel.

Your fine and you are definently NOT arrogant. Sorry for the allcaps but I had to for emphasis to stress this point. I am not trying to outdo my post on your miscarrage but as I see you as close as I can on this site to an equal, I will have to comment on this in a profound manner.
Ut-hem (Clearing my throat)
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Speaking as a newer person on this site, I chose to spend a lot of time here as what I write tends to not be nuitered, deleted, modified, flat out banned from the 'norm' of ideas. Seriously, try speaking your mind on Big Sea Games or some other sites out there and as soon as you are away from what is normal, they will ban you. According to Big Sea Games, I am muted (Silenced so I cannot speak) on the game playing aspect for 50 more YEARS and perminently banned from the forum boards. Why, because I said this one game sucked and I hated how everything is random based instead of skill based.

Ms October, you are not arrogant by any means, but you are in a higher range of intelligence. I have read many of your post in the past and commented on a lot of the advice that you have given and as I don't have much free time, I tend to look for your post first rather than reading through lines upon lines of people's random 'mess with a keyboard.'

However, you are commenting on a site that is frequented by kids in general. They may not be actual kids, but they sure in hell act like it. I think this is more based upon the internet and how random stupidity can go unchecked so people don't have to grow up than it is their own unwillingness to grow up. Unfortunately, you are above the 'norm' for this site and I am truly sorry for that, as I feel I am outside of what is considered normal here as well.

Case in point to the paragraph above, the site http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/ I used to comment on and on that site you are allowed to do polls. Well, every one of my polls after being backlashed as you have gotten here, I would put an option for the children to vote that the author (Me) is an idiot and it is rather funny to see how many people will pick that option even if it is a really good poll.

It seems that the internet is a hotbed for stupidity and there is just no way around that.
I focus more on what you write compared to others for a few reasons:

One, you are an honest and genuine person.

Two, you hold yourself accountable for what you say, hence your profile having a picture of you instead of something stupid like a gerbil. If people don't like what you wrote and hated you in general but KNEW who you are based upon your picture, you put yourself at a minor risk. You hold what you write personally and dearly and your advice you tend to give is rather good.

Three, your not a child. You have real world experience (As with me, a handicap adds to this instead of subtracts.) and you are not complaining because your daddy won't let you go out at night. You work hard and you have opinions through life experience.

Four, and this is very important, you have a true sense of who you are. Your not some person talking about how you like having sex with your (Enter family member here) or how you like to drool over that hot guy over there. You know who you are and what your desires are in life. You want simple things from what I could tell from your post, stuff that others who are less deserving get for free but you have to struggle for; stuff like having a good boyfriend, a child, a body that works right.
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Extremely wordy, I know and I am sorry for that.
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Even if you are arrogent and I truly don't see it, it is okay. You are stating your opinions and they are rather good. If people don't like them then they can just piss off. They don't have to read your post or god forbid, this long post either. They chose to read what you write and I honestly think you should keep doing what you do well, giving hope and positive thinking toward those who really need it. Those out there to be dickholes will always be dickholes, but you are kind of needed here to be a voice of reason people need and hopefully will listen to.

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Now about myself to stress my point as genuine. I see you as what I kind of need to be happy with this site. No, I am not in love with you or so on, but often my advice needs a look from the other side, the woman side. The advice I gave after maybe my third day here is rather good but if you disagree, by all means tear it apart and fix it as I will do to yours when I see something I disagree with.

While it is true, you have been writing here a lot longer than I have and I feel I have not 'paid my dues' yet to earn anyones respect or trust, I hope to get there one day. I have been here a short time but this site is exactly what I need, a place where I can be honest and more important, myself. Now that I realise this, I hope you don't change as I truly could use a person like me to keep up with the 'ray of sence' some people need here. Forget the children and be yourself. If nothing else, I respect that and I am really jealous in a way as my fiance is a great person but she does not have half the courage you do to just be herself. Honestly, we really need you to be you.

As a society, to grow we must disagree in an appropriate manner and be respectful to independant though. If I am wrong, tear what I said apart but I like this site for allowing me to be me, and just be me. I hopefully expect this from anyone who reads my post as well, if you disagree, let me know.
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Quickly about myself, I know I am beating a dead horse again and I would perfer this post to be about you and not about me. I have to state this as it matches your story.

I have Relaps/Remittive Multiple Sclerosis. What this is is that my immune system is attacking my nervous system and I lose things because of it. It will come back but it will not be like it used to be. For instance, I have been paralyzed from the waist down, I have had a bad case of Vertigo (Look it up but its a scary though and I would have rather been dead) among other things. I have lost half of my face before and most of my taste for a while.

They remain gone for several months and SLOWLY come back, but when it does it isn't like it used to be. My legs still hurt, mostly when I am tired. I am dizzy when I lay down for a few seconds every time I lay down. My right hand can no longer write as well as I used to (Still type 70wpm.) and I know toward the end of my life I will be crippled. I know one day I will probably lose my legs and all that will make me, me. Granted, it isn't your health problem but I do understand that you will always suffer with your problem. You will never be able to do a lot of the thing that comes FREE to half the people here who deserve it less than you do and I truly understand how hard this is to accept. (I could go into detail about what I had to give up but this is about you. I just wanted to state I understand what you are going through the best I can.)

Also, with your child you lost. I lost my Autistic son and I truly miss him every day so I understand. You need to do what you need to do to get over him and if writing here helps, tell those who call you arrogent to fuck off. You have had a hard life and it all added up to make you who you are and honestly, THERE IS NOT A DAMN THING WRONG WITH YOU. Granted, you lost your child before it was even born but it still hurts the same and I am truly sorry for that.

You boyfriend was always a jerk. I could tell even before you wrote that he left after the miscarrage. The comment about your sister or the other comments kind of gave this opinion ahead of time. Honestly, your a good person and you could do far better than him. Just be yourself and someone will love you for you. If you cannot PHYSICALLY have kids, as it is a possibility, just let a decent guy know early on and odds are he will stay because he loves you for what matters most, who you are.

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In summary, I wrote all of that because I think you could use someone who is supportive and not an ass. Your a bright person in a sea of stupid ones and they will never truly understand you. However, I am glad you are here and I truly hope you can help me one day.

YOU ARE DEFINENTLY NOT ARROGENT AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH YOU! Just be who you are and to damn with the world. As my quote goes, "If the world was a shitstain than I want to be the shit that stained the stain." I know, gross but it works here. If the world is full of normal people, isn't it good to be better than that and to change things instead of being in a sea of plain-ness.

Paul
Budthewise
Budwise_thefirst@juno.com

(Screen name from high school. People used to pick on me and call me Bud Bundy as I didn't see the point of dating without working first. Well, the Bud part is from there and posting stuff like this I added the Wise part to the name to make it who I truly am...me)

Excuse any typos, I screwed away this whole day and I wanted to write that before I started on my homework. Feel free to tear me apart or call me names anyone as I truly do not care.

October, your a good person and I wish my fiance (Who I truly care for and wrote nasty things about to get out anger to get to acceptance toward how good she truly is.) would be half as strong as you are. I vote that you are definently normal although I do wonder if that is what you want.

If I didn't get my point out. Your not Arrogent as I have read a lot of your post. You are just more intelligent than the average person here and that is how they see you.

YOU ARE FINE. Even if you are a little stuck on yourself, its normal because of a well adjusted self esteme. You don't need to apologise for being you because lord knows, nobody else here who are far worst than you will.

Paul
Budthewise

Please come back. I need an equal and I haven't found one yet. I am busting by butt studying and I need a release or at least someone to debate/talk to.

Please come back, I need you, if only to have someone bitch at my post. Thank you

Paul
Budthewise