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Support Homosexuality! PART 2!
hello again everyone,
If you read "Support Homosexuality part1" then you know that I support homosexuality and would like homophobia to STOP.
The comments I got were some of the sickest, most horrible things I have ever heard.
people were saying that homosexuality is an illness! some people said that There was no such thing as homosexual love!
It was all just awful.
I will always support the love of all orientations! AND EVERYONE ELSE SHOULD TOO!
~~inspired by the love~~
If you read "Support Homosexuality part1" then you know that I support homosexuality and would like homophobia to STOP.
The comments I got were some of the sickest, most horrible things I have ever heard.
people were saying that homosexuality is an illness! some people said that There was no such thing as homosexual love!
It was all just awful.
I will always support the love of all orientations! AND EVERYONE ELSE SHOULD TOO!
~~inspired by the love~~
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I have no problem with your stance, and you are as free to post your views here as anyone else, from my perspective. But please do not be naive enough to think that you will not receive a thorough ass-kicking for your honesty on a subject that divides many people. That's just the way it is here, like it or or not.
well, thank you. It seems like you really understand me. I love what I do and really don't care what people say to me. But thanks for the warning and advice.
~~inspired by the love~~
FOR THE 1,000,000,000 time! HOmophobia is real and YOU have it!
~inspired by the love~~
Anyhow, what the hell? I thought straight guys loved the idea of a little girl on girl action. If you could just kind of block out the part about the "guy on guy" stuff, maybe this could really work for you; LOL.
I AM SAYING THAT BECAUSE SOMEONE WANTS TO DO SOMETHING THAT IS WRONG DOES NOT MAKE IT LESS WRONG
You postred your shit we didnt like and said horrible things to you
Well take the hint and fuck off cunt
I'm assuming that you have some Christian objections to homosexuality and would probaby be familiar with the quote from Leviticus: "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." Interesting, though, how people take a "cafeteria approach" to the Bible -- they pick and choose the passages they believe in and wish to obey. For examle, the Bible ALSO says, "Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material" (Leviticus 19:19). And "Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain." (Deuteronomy 25:4). AND: "When you build a new house, make a parapet around your roof so that you may not bring the guilt of bloodshed on your house if someone falls from the roof." (Deuteronomy 22:8).
And so it goes. One might argue that some of these laws spoke more to customs and accepted practices of the day that moral dictates. But how do you determine that the admonition against homosexuality is any different?
By the way, it's not that I'm a particularly vocal advocate for gay rights. What I DO advocate for, though, is freedom from persecution for engaging in behaviors that are nobody's business but your own. As the saying goes, if you don't support gay marriage, don't marry one. No one wants to convert you -- most of them, I think, just want to be left alone.
DONT YOU THINK ITS STRANGE THAT WHEN CHRISTIAN VALUES ARE FADING THAT GAYNESS IS RISING? ITS DISGUSTING
Values are declining because people are rudderless in every area of their lives. They don't know where to turn anymore -- we are actually victims of so much information today that we have no choice but to constantly be questioning our own tenants if we have any intelligence whatsoever. I don't think that religion -- ANY religion -- is the answer, though. One has only to look at the horrors that have been wrought by extremes in religious thought to know that people pervert religion to suit their own ends.
Mind you, I'm not telling you I know the answer(s). But I DO know some pretty good questions, and I've ruled out quite a few of the "answers" that I truly feel do not work for anyone in the long run.
Why then, do most religions forbid homosexuality? Is it not the Christian way to forgive sin? Not that I advocate that homosexuality is a sin or indeed sinful, because I do neither.
Go back 2 ceturies and read up on the things that different religions did to "non believers" of THEIR religions. Some really horific examples of "Christianity" are to be found. No sane man or woman would follow ANY religion if they saw how they got to the beliefs they now have. It is sad, sadistic and totally unacceptable. History is steeped in religious biggotory and punishment/torture. You can take your religious stance and stuff it right up your god damned asshole Mr! These are things I HAVE researched BEFORE I spout off. Now you go do the same.
Incidentally, I AM GAY AND PROUD. Phuck you and your uneducated oppinion.
Go practice some black rights or some such. God knows, you have more than enough biggotry there to deal with. Just leave off the gay subject and leave it to those more able to fight our cause thank you very much!
I am not falling out with you, but trying to get you to only express informed oppinions.
Rock on.
-The Nidaime
So, you haven't answered MY QUESTIONS! Why not? Beacause you can't? Test my ass. You are born what you are born. YOU CANNOT LEARN NOT TO BE WHAT YOU ARE.
As for George Bush. I am not an American but I don't like him any more than I liked Blair. They went into Iraq for the oil. FULL STOP. The rest was merely an excuse and a load of bull. Otherwise, why have they not yet apprehended Bin Laden? Because their primary (if not only ) interest was the oil.
but for "nearly (10533)"
sorry but, I will NOT leave the subject alone.
~~inspired by the love~~
The next part of this post is for nearly:
You say that people are born gay, and I agree with you to a certain degree. I believe there can also be other causes that lead to somebody being gay or otherwise, but I think your logic in that sense is sound. But now I must ask you the following question: Just because somebody is born to lead a certain lifestyle, does that make it beneficial? Or might rejecting that lifestyle that one was meant to lead be more beneficial? For instance, (I know it's an extreme example, but please follow) they say that many of the serial killers in the world have a certain genetic condition (or sickness) that leads them to keep killing. Or perhaps it's an imbalance in the brain, but regardless, they can't control those impulses. There are other people who have certain brain conditions in which they have a problem with judgment and predicting the outcome of certain actions. Just because these people were born this way, does it make it beneficial to themselves and the rest of society, or do you think an alteration in their programming or genetic structure (if possible) would be more beneficial to their development?
I don't "support" homosexuality, but I also do not feel that what consenting adults do with one another sexually is any of my business. (With the exception of the topic of procreating, which is an entirely different subject I'll not go into here.) But sex which is performed for love, pleasure, and closeness between men and women, men and men, or women and women, is really up to the individuals involved. For those who don't care for gay practices, there is a simple solution: don't engage in them. If your religion teaches you they are wrong, that's between you and your God but do NOT spread your bitterness and hatred around, allowing yourself the satisfaction that your message of fire and damnation is scaring or "reforming" anyone. For those whose "religion" promotes such garbage, I will have no part of it nor of those who practice it.
-The Nidaime
I am not forcing my ideas on others. When did I ever say "you MUST support homosexuality"
I never did.
All I have been saying is that you really SHOULD support it, beacause the world would be a much better place!
~inspired by the love of Haruka and Michiru~
~Inspired by the love of Slackjaw and Al Gore~
and whats up with stealing my signature!?
~inspired by the love of Haruka and Michiru~
~inspired by the love of slackjaw and jim morrisons rotten gooch hair~
no, Im not a fake person.
and this is no joke.
~inspired by the love of Haruka and Michiru~
I go by the term 'You cannot help you fall in love with and your not suppose to"
~Inspired by the love of slackjaw and a 4 year old boys penis~
In my opinion, the whole argument about "consenting adults" goes out the window when the "consenting act" involves the death of one of the parties AND that death does not occur because the deceased wanted to die because of very painful and/or protracted, terminal illness. I have some sympathy and respect for people who choose to end their lives for such reasons, and in some circumstances, help is needed to select the correct medications, combinations, and dosages which will end life with a minimum of suffering.
But what you're talking about here is gratuitous death. In a situation like this, I believe that the "suicide assistant" is really just a sadist who is in it for sexual satisfaction and/or power. Your subject wanted to die because he was depressed about a "tainted" family lineage. How could assisting his death ever be justified? Even severe depression is generally regarded as a treatable condition, so a "final solution" by way of assisted suicide can never be supported by a rational society.
But speaking to your general point about there being many consensual acts which are "polluting to the mind", you'll get no argument from me there. But if you really look closely at human behavior, it should be fairly obvious that most of us really aren't into acts which are rational and clarifying. No, we seek out the pollution. For many of us, distortion and chaos are next to godliness.
~~inspired by the love~~
Don't think she means it in preaching way mind, think she means well.
i like potatoes
Re: Suicide due to fatal illness vs. other illness.
It is difficult to come to a determination on where to draw the line here. You say that depression leading to suicidal ideation is very treatable. While it is treatable for some, it isn't for others. And sometimes the treatment for depression leads to dire circumstances, as the Columbine, VT, and numerous other rampages might suggest. These kids were on antidepressants. It is likely because of these medications that they killed other humans. Therefore, perhaps it would be better if they were killed or killed themselves, if preservation of the lives of 'innocent' people is desirable. That being said, I invite you to check out some 'Suicide Help' forums on the internet to see for yourself how many of these people are already on medications for depression. I've scanned these forums in the past, since I do find suicidal ideation somewhat interesting, and I can tell you that most are medicated. Others decided to stop the medication due to undesirable side-effects that have made their lives even worse as a result. So in my opinion, antidepressants and other mental medications leave much to be desired. There's also the aspect of personality change. Is it really worth is to change the fabric of who you are so drastically for the purpose of avoiding your own mind?
Is depression or mental disorder a just cause for suicide, or assisted suicide? How is mental disorder any different than terminal illness? Many mental illnesses, although sometimes treatable, are incurable. Mental illness can cause much mental pain. How is physical pain any different than mental pain? Or the pain of not being functional? There are far too many variables here to consider. Justification of your monochrome scale is just ludicrous. Suicide is an easy way out, and many people need that. Who are we to say it's wrong?
I completely agree with you regarding the sadistic %u201Csuicide assistant%u201D. That was my entire point. The character is seeking out his own selfish desires in killing somebody in a vulnerable position. Depression aside, I agree that it is unjustified. The same can be said of sex though. One person is taking advantage of another's mental lapse, regardless of consent. The difference is, both parties are engaged in the same act. It's like dual suicide assistance, where each person kills the other at the exact same moment.
Though I agree that some people seek out the mind pollution, I believe in most cases that it is just overexposure and acceptance.
Your view of this situation is far too simplistic. While you may indeed be dead as a result of murder, there are enormous implications to those you leave behind. A widowed spouse may not be in the scenario in your case, but there may be parents, siblings, friends, co-workers, and others. There are also possible unforeseen expenses to be born relating to the funeral and associated burial costs, probate expenses if applicable, and so forth. And those consequences speak only to practical matters; they do not even begin to address the loss of you as someone who may have made a significant creative, innovative, or philanthropic contribution to the lives of others.
My point is that death has its consequences beyond the simple termination of a single life. Also, neither rape nor depression may cause the life-long mental anguish that you suggest here -- since you've spoken quite eloquently in other posts about having faith in the human capacity for evolving towards higher planes of consciousness and sensibilities, why not accept the possibility that these people may find healing and become even stronger as a result of adversity?
You are right; suicide is the easy way out. It is also, in many cases, the selfish way out which leaves everyone connected with the suicide in agonizing turmoil. If a child is raised in a home in which there has been a suicide, for example, their risk for also committing suicide is approximately three times greater. But before you gather your resources to write a paragraph on the virtues of self-elimination, I'd like to provide my own brief experience of working for a man who lost four family members to suicide over a 15-year period.
His wife died by her own hand from a gunshot wound in the early 1980s. She was terminally ill; that and the strain of trying to care for seven children was probably too much for her. One of her sons walked in on her as she lie dying; she passed away about two weeks later...Six or seven years later, his oldest son committed suicide. No explanation was ever given, but it was believed to have been a drug overdose...A couple of years after that, the son who had seen his mother die was involved a serious car accident that left his right leg severely mangled. He was able to walk again, but only with difficulty and experienced frequent infections and surgeries. He committed suicide about two years later. Again, it was a drug overdose...Approximately two years after that, the middle son committed suicide. I never learned the exact cause of death, but my co-worker said that there were no signs whatsoever that he;d planned to end his life.
I can give you other examples that are not quite so severe, but the point that I'm trying to make is that there is death that is inevitable that we all must accept, like it or not; and then there is death that is a matter of choice. But if a person's mental balance is askew because of chemical irregularities, such as is the case with severe depression or paranoid schizophrenia, how free is s/he to choose death as an option? I don't think we should be forced to live simply because our loss would upset those around us, but when we commit ourselves to be family friends, when we make friends and lovers, and yes, even when we forge our silly relationships on the internet, do we have absolutely no consideration for our loved ones whatsoever when we make such final choices?
This is incredibly long and I wouldn't be surprised if I'm completely off topic by now. But if you're still reading this -- thanks :-)
Until we conquer death, death is simply more logical than life. It will consume us all. It is the end of the loop; an initially futile and superfluous loop. A child is born without initial cause. A child develops cause, a cause is developed for a child, or a child is deluded into believing in a cause. A child grows old and dies. In the end, it is as though the child never existed. And when I speak of end, I mean end as in a state of utter oblivion. It is as though what happened during that life span never existed at all. Until death is conquered, life and its consequences will be irrelevant. I do believe death can be conquered; however, these advances likely won't happen in my time (if ever). People are just too preoccupied with life, and sometimes religion, to think about death in its purest form.
I still question whether or not the extension of the loop can be justified. Perhaps the extension of the loop is just prolonging the inevitable outcome. Perhaps when all is known, there's nothing left but death. And then there's the God factor. What if God exists and this is just a test? If that's the case, then what is God's purpose, other than having an ant hill to poke and prod at? Regardless of any of that, non-existence is still more logical than existence. What comes with existence is simply a redundant infinite or near infinite loop of cause and effect relationships with no real purpose other than the purposes that we assign to certain conditions. Q. What is the worst yet most common error a programmer could make? A. An infinite loop. If God is our programmer, life/existence is simply an error.
With all that being said, the cause and effect relationships that you described in your paragraph with regards to people you know who have killed themselves can be understood a little better now. The causality of existence explains it. Though it all may seem tragic, it really isn't. If you look at the cause and decide to view it differently than most people, it can drastically change your outlook. I've seen my fair share of undesirable circumstances in my life, but I have trained my brain to view things differently than most people. Why should we get upset over inevitable outcomes? Equilibrium and eternal peace comes as the result of our reactions. And we can all alter our reactions with the result of remaining calm and peaceful during the worst or best of scenarios.
My God, you said the C word. I'm sure you're aware that I don't believe in choice. I believe everything is determined by the cause and effect relationships of universal physics, or causality. I don't believe people choose to commit suicide as much as I believe that circumstances do. Different circumstances can also prevent a person from committing suicide. Regardless, it's still causality at work. So in that case, it's no different from the mentally ill person who commits suicide. One commits as a result of circumstances that provoke him or her to do it. One commits as the result of mental conditions.
Finally, I'll move on to the topic of selfishness relating to suicide. Let us pretend we have a couple here. I'll name them George and Rhonda. George loses his job while finding out that Rhonda has cheated on him just after his dad was diagnosed with a terminal illness and his kid got killed in a car wreck a week prior. His entire life has crumbled before his very eyes, and all in such a short span. He decides that life isn't worth living, so saws off the barrel on his shot gun, and makes red ink marks with chunks of brain matter and bone all over the walls of his garage. Who is selfish here? Is it George for deciding that life just isn't worth living, or Rhonda and Georges family/friends for expecting him to live when he doesn't want to? Personally, I think both sides are equally selfish. Though his depression was obviously circumstantial, I hardly think he can be blamed for his actions. Life can be a sad reality sometimes, and suicide is an easy way out. It's simply causality in action.
read Romans Ch.5 v.17-19
If I was a Serial Killer
They would find all my victim's heads
In funky ass gas station toilets
And if I was a Serial Killer
I would be strange and deranged
And I would never change
If I was a Serial Killer
I'd be known as the smoker
Cause I'd cut off and smoke all they hair
and if I was a Serial Killer
I would sleep on broken glass and thumbtacks
and I would smoke mad crack
First thing I would do is kill a couple hotties
They'd always get some mustard up decapitated bodies
Dumped on State police law just before dawn
To let em know my ritual had begun
I'd crack a 40 with the devil tell him dig me a hole
cause I'm coming when I die until them I'm in control
This is if I was a Serial Killer and though I aint
but if I was I'd do my walls all blood red with blood paint
This is if I was a Serial Killer and though I aint
But if I was I'd never stop cause I know I can't
If I was a Serial Killer
I would drive a black van
And I would ride around on college campus
And if I was a Serial Killer
I would walk among us and gain trust
Until I needed that rush
I'd park outside these bitches homes and then drive away
Then come back with my lights off this time I'm here to stay
I'd wear human bones around my neck and have my ceremonies
Then go back upstairs and microwave some macaronis
You know what's all up in my trunk
So don't ask me to pop it
Once I get out to my cabin
Then I'll finally unlock it
This is if I was a Serial Killer and though I'm not
But if I was I'd snap a photo once they died on the spot
This is if I was a Serial Killer and though I'm not
But if I was I'd know that I can't so I would never stop... (etc.)
And I believe this really should be the final word(s) on the subject, I'm sure you'll agree. (Sorry, Fred; I'm having a "cut and paste" moment. Sometimes my brain gets too full ;-)
And I don't know who I am anymore
Except that I am strange and deranged
And I will never change
One of my favs. Thanks :D
Just to refresh your memories, we are talking about homosexuality and how it has been so discriminated. If you want to talk about serial killers please go to someone else post that is about that topic.
~~inspired by the love~~
And also The anime characters aren't the only reason I support homosexuality!
But That was the first time I saw such a beautiful love. And they inspired me~
~inspired by the love of Haruka and Michiru~
~~New Haruka and Michiru picture in profile~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~beautiful~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Again, no objection to ANY kind of consenting sex. Just objecting to trivializing the subject, which is what I think you do with your comments. You are everything everyone makes fun of in stereotypical gay people: you're a shrill, attention-seeking, materialistic drama queen. Approach the subject seriously, and you might get some responses that go a bit beyond "fuck you, black bitch." But you're not going to do that, because you LOVE the controversy. (Are you sure you and Chris Crocker aren't related?)
Motorsports. Hang gliding. Basketball. Fencing. Whatever I did, nothing was a match for me. I went along, satisfied with that life. I spent the time convincing myself that I was satisfied.
But... But then... I felt I was really about to break apart. I felt I was going to be crushed by irritation. After I tore off the mask of the daytime, every night in bed I cried out without a voice.
No... This me is not me. It's not the real me! I was but a child, trying to escape my own destiny. Wrapped in a thin blanket, I was a naked child crying.
And then, when I met you, I understood at once. You were that person. You were that person I searched for, and at the same time was afraid of.
You, elegant but having wild eyes... Never turning your eyes from reality, fighting against everything... You taught me that destiny is something you choose yourself.
Like the larva dies and is reborn a butterfly, at that time the cowardly me was killed by you. You, strong and able to keep fighting. And yet... When I'm thinking of you... for some reason... gentle feelings... fill my heart...
~inspired by the love of Haruka and Michiru~
It was so beautiful.
please tell me you could see the beauty.
But point taken -- it's gentle and sweet, you like it, and you'd like others to like it. Is that all you want, then? Some validation? You don't really need it. If you like these characters and believe in the power and beauty of all forms of love, why bother trying to inspire a bunch of strangers to accept your philosophies?
Here is another one.
Everything to me was just the world spread out before my eyes. Whatever the past, it became small while shining inside the mirror. The dirty sky... The echoes of the train... The noise of daytime... Everything around becoming a flowing line and flying off.
The remaining white moon... The rays of light brimming over... The sweet shape... of the girls' hands... Everything around becoming a flowing line and breaking off.
At that time I will become the wind. I will become a wind prettier than anyone. I will become a wind stronger than anything.
With my hands on the wheel, stepping on the gas... My chest throbs... The ultra-high-speed world. That is the one space that's just mine.
For me to be me... I cut through the haze of heat. Sweat slowly pours down. Exposed to the light, the world is fully exposed. That is the one space that's just mine. For me to not be me...
High above, the clouds blow about over the vivid aquamarine sea. While I seek after it so much that I feel longing, I still feel like letting go sometimes. The dream I have in my heart... I pursue it so much that it hurts, but I still want to destroy it sometimes. The future I have in my heart... What on earth is it I keep running for? Just how far will I keep running?
The jet disappeared into the setting sun. It soared past, leaving two bold lines in the sky. Like it was searching for an exit, my gasping heart then gave an answer for the first time. If I don't keep running, I won't be able to see anything. If I don't keep running, nothing will end. If I just finish once... If I just get the checkered flag once... At that time I will become the wind. I will become a wind prettier than anyone. I will become a wind stronger than anything.
some1 needs to mushroom slap u hickucu and muchaka in the face
~~~inspired~~~
~~~inspired~~~
HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT A CHOICE!
Just like your parents aren't a choice!
Just like whether you like spinach or not isn't a choice!
You were made into this world with all the little insignifigant bells and whistles, whether you want it to be that way or not.
I'm still supportive but totally NOT looking to start this up again...
I don't hate Homosexuals but in my opinion what they are doing is wrong.
If you're trying to be funny, it's not working douchebags. I just don't think you guys have any idea what kind of things you are saying, you sound like stupid jerks. I hope you aren't like this in the real world...
P.S. The bible was written by some random guys who liked telling stories. It was created centuries ago where a lot of the things don't apply to the real world today. Including evolution and genetics. The percentage of people who want to get married these days has drastically dropped, showing that having to wait for sex till marriage is quite ridiculous.
If worshipping whoever makes you happy, go ahead. But don't put other people down because you think you're so fucking superior and better than they are. Guess what, you are exactly the same as the "faggots" and "niggers" that you have such a problem with, you're HUMAN BEINGS. You've got over 99% of the same genetic make-up, they feel the same things you do, they have their hardships like you do, they pay taxes like you do. And what's your issue with them? They have a darker colored skin from you, or they are more inclined to the same sex.
Shut the fuck up with your stupid macho bullshit, you're just weak, insecure little boys who can't get a date.