Actually our numbering system originated in India by Hindus. Please don't spread misinformation.
Though Islamic peoples did have some historical advances in scientific pursuits.
As did Nazi Germany.
Morals don't enter into it.
"The people you really dislike"
Please don't say that about me. I really dislike Islam because I value women, gay people, atheists and ex-Muslims as my equals and do not want them to be harmed or oppressed. I don't necessarily dislike Muslims, Muslims are individuals and vary from good to bad.
I just dislike their religion, there is a difference between a human individual and an idea.
"I hardly see you go out of your way to rant about other religions minus Islam and Muslims. "
On this very page I was criticizing Catholicism. Do you um, read?
"The numbering system originated from the Arabic numbering system. Hence why the similarities."
I gave you an opportunity to admit your error. Even your eyes alone should of told you your error look at the Arabic language as written, look at the numerals. Do you really think they originated in Arabic first? Even their form alone indicates that they did not originate in the Arabic language.
Since you are the one making a claim that goes against Academic and Historical consensus that they are Indian numerals. It is your responsibility to provide evidence. Please prove you are not just lying again.
For fun here is a small amount of evidence for the numbering system being Indian are:
Kitab al-fusul fi al-hisab al-Hindi
A very early Arabic work that states that before the use of Indian numerals, Arabic people's used their fingers to count.
As was analysed here:
The Earliest Extant Arabic Arithmetic: Kitab al-Fusul fi al Hisab al-Hindi of Abu al-Hasan, Ahmad ibn Ibrahim al-Uqlidisi
A. S. Saidan
Isis , Vol. 57, No. 4 (Winter, 1966), pp. 475-490
Liber abaci by Fibonacci, One of the first works of European mathematics
Refers to them as Indian numerals.
I could fill a book with evidence for them being Indian. It is so fun catching you in lies :). Only reason I still talk to you.
You managed to find a non-peer reviewed article by an Algerian physicist writing outside of his field on history.
To make his argument he references a previous paper authored by himself in which he claims to have found the original numerals from a manuscript. The date of the manuscript you might ask? 1810AD.
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAhahahahahha
Now because this 1810 manuscript has numbers that he feels look similar to modern numerals, he feels that they obviously are the true origin. Let me repeat because an Algerian manuscript written in the 19th century used numbers that looked liked modern western numerals, he feels that Algeria or lands around it were the inventor of the modern numerals as we use them. :D
That is comedy GOLD. Please send more similar papers if you find them. That was genuinely the funniest failed attempt at academia I have ever seen.
I didn't think I my respect for you could sink any lower but by using that as reference you have managed it. Congratulations.
This physicist is also a global warming denier by the way. Great credibility. :)
Because the Ghubari text looked very similar to modern day English numerals, you are telling me it is not credible because the author isn't a historian, and he also doesn't believe in global warming? So the similarity is just a coincidence on his part.
I guess all of the other 26 references he used are not credible either. Bummer.
Ignore the fact that the manuscript, the ghubari text and the Arabic alphabet look very similar to the modern day numerals we are using.
It's not like a physicist uses numbers at all, and it's not like you used a European mathematician as reference at all.
"I could fill a book with evidence for them being Indian. It is so fun catching you in lies :)."
Yes, Great credibility on your part. :) Your words are facts themselves after all.
Anyone with some basic knowledge in history knows that the Arabs were nothing but a bunch of head-chopping Bedouin savages, ironically not much has changed, except they have petro-dollars to fund their jihads now.
It takes a civilization to develop things like mathematics. The number system we use come from the Hindu Indians, the Arabs just adopted it when they invaded and conquered India and spread it to Europe and elsewhere.
"The numbering system originated from the Arabic numbering system"
Your quote from later:
"Holy crap, dude nobody knows exactly where our numbers originated from."
You are such a lying idiot. It is so fun catching you out. :D
Which do you think has the biggest victim mentality/complex?
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Esperanto is western.
The common day number system we're using came from who... Come on... you know...
The A-... Ara-....Mu-... Musl-...
The people you really dislike and always comment about. :)
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Actually our numbering system originated in India by Hindus. Please don't spread misinformation.
Though Islamic peoples did have some historical advances in scientific pursuits.
As did Nazi Germany.
Morals don't enter into it.
"The people you really dislike"
Please don't say that about me. I really dislike Islam because I value women, gay people, atheists and ex-Muslims as my equals and do not want them to be harmed or oppressed. I don't necessarily dislike Muslims, Muslims are individuals and vary from good to bad.
I just dislike their religion, there is a difference between a human individual and an idea.
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I hardly see you go out of your way to rant about other religions minus Islam and Muslims.
The numbering system originated from the Arabic numbering system. Hence why the similarities.
Otherwise we would still be using Roman Numerals.
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"I hardly see you go out of your way to rant about other religions minus Islam and Muslims. "
On this very page I was criticizing Catholicism. Do you um, read?
"The numbering system originated from the Arabic numbering system. Hence why the similarities."
I gave you an opportunity to admit your error. Even your eyes alone should of told you your error look at the Arabic language as written, look at the numerals. Do you really think they originated in Arabic first? Even their form alone indicates that they did not originate in the Arabic language.
Since you are the one making a claim that goes against Academic and Historical consensus that they are Indian numerals. It is your responsibility to provide evidence. Please prove you are not just lying again.
For fun here is a small amount of evidence for the numbering system being Indian are:
Kitab al-fusul fi al-hisab al-Hindi
A very early Arabic work that states that before the use of Indian numerals, Arabic people's used their fingers to count.
As was analysed here:
The Earliest Extant Arabic Arithmetic: Kitab al-Fusul fi al Hisab al-Hindi of Abu al-Hasan, Ahmad ibn Ibrahim al-Uqlidisi
A. S. Saidan
Isis , Vol. 57, No. 4 (Winter, 1966), pp. 475-490
Liber abaci by Fibonacci, One of the first works of European mathematics
Refers to them as Indian numerals.
I could fill a book with evidence for them being Indian. It is so fun catching you in lies :). Only reason I still talk to you.
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Oh btw. You wanted reference?
http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0707/0707.3279.pdf
The modern day numbering system we are using today DID originate from the Arabic Alphabet. Check page 3.
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You managed to find a non-peer reviewed article by an Algerian physicist writing outside of his field on history.
To make his argument he references a previous paper authored by himself in which he claims to have found the original numerals from a manuscript. The date of the manuscript you might ask? 1810AD.
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAhahahahahha
Now because this 1810 manuscript has numbers that he feels look similar to modern numerals, he feels that they obviously are the true origin. Let me repeat because an Algerian manuscript written in the 19th century used numbers that looked liked modern western numerals, he feels that Algeria or lands around it were the inventor of the modern numerals as we use them. :D
That is comedy GOLD. Please send more similar papers if you find them. That was genuinely the funniest failed attempt at academia I have ever seen.
I didn't think I my respect for you could sink any lower but by using that as reference you have managed it. Congratulations.
This physicist is also a global warming denier by the way. Great credibility. :)
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Because the Ghubari text looked very similar to modern day English numerals, you are telling me it is not credible because the author isn't a historian, and he also doesn't believe in global warming? So the similarity is just a coincidence on his part.
I guess all of the other 26 references he used are not credible either. Bummer.
Ignore the fact that the manuscript, the ghubari text and the Arabic alphabet look very similar to the modern day numerals we are using.
It's not like a physicist uses numbers at all, and it's not like you used a European mathematician as reference at all.
"I could fill a book with evidence for them being Indian. It is so fun catching you in lies :)."
Yes, Great credibility on your part. :) Your words are facts themselves after all.
Anyone with some basic knowledge in history knows that the Arabs were nothing but a bunch of head-chopping Bedouin savages, ironically not much has changed, except they have petro-dollars to fund their jihads now.
It takes a civilization to develop things like mathematics. The number system we use come from the Hindu Indians, the Arabs just adopted it when they invaded and conquered India and spread it to Europe and elsewhere.
"The numbering system originated from the Arabic numbering system"
Your quote from later:
"Holy crap, dude nobody knows exactly where our numbers originated from."
You are such a lying idiot. It is so fun catching you out. :D