you know, anal prostate stimulation is generally seen as intensily positive and sexual act across men of all genders.
It's part of sex play as well as medicinal or massage elements, and some men even had a physical orgasm against their will from prostate stimulation.
So yes, unless i get to exactly choose the partner, it's quite exactly the same thing. So go ahead and think about how great it would be to be anally raped yourself by someone strong enough you can't fight back, that will cause you pain if you try to fight, possibly kill you after the deed, and leave you bleeding in the gutter. Sounds fun, hu?
Problem with that is I am A) Describing straight rape. B) Rape using minimal force required to subdue a particular victim and C) Not a minor, all of which people have conveniently discarded as if I didn't make it perfectly clear in my initial post.
And to your last comment, few are that strong and no one will try, people shoot for weak prey. so I guess in that regard I can't understand what it's like to be vulnerable like a woman.
"Granted, I understand it's not fair, and you are taking away their choice, their consent, and violating their body and their rights, I understand that."
It's not your choice WHO you are raped by. It is, by definition, a forceful sexual act by a unwanted perpetrator. There is no "straight" rape. Thats merely a descriptive term to define genders. Rape is Rape. Wether it's a man raping a women, a man a man, a women a man or a woman a woman.
Still, if you are unable to understand, lets make it a straight rape scenario. So, a obese 50+year old woman who's only child was raped and killed developed a habit: She's drugging you in her cafe(she works there), then ties you up in her cellar and repeatedly penetrates you with her strap-on, possibly contemplating aloud wether she should just slit your throat and feed you to her dogs. That feel better in your mind? It's all straight, it's about control, she uses little force, so, you can enjoy that?
If you fail to understand that what HAPPENS when you are raped is no less humiliating, painful, and awful if the rapist is of the gender you usually prefer, then you don't understand what you are talking about at all.
All the same it makes little difference how much force is used. Wether you break an arm or just threaten to slit your victims throat does not make the act any less despicable. Suffocating a sleeping child with a pillow is no less severe a murder than hunting it down with an axe. Murder is murder, the violence is just an extra. Same with rape.
I did not refer to a minor. As Angel aptly said, rape is in large parts about control. I _HOPE_ you just have those beliefs because you feel nobody out there could control you, and your lack of vulnerability and a lack of empathy combine to an inability of understanding how things affect other people.
Hi, I'm Kat, I'm 15, I was raped by four men when I was eight, I also had a VERY abusive father, verbally, emotionally, and physically. Let me just say that being raped is a HUGE deal. I can't believe you would take it so lightly. What gives you the right to? Your a man who's never experienced it and you couldn't imagine the pain, the shame, the self hate, the helplessness, and vulnerability, so just SHUT UP. Because you have NO idea what your talking about.you can't imagine how HORRIBLE it is to have your body taken from you. And it doesn't matter what age it is, or the circumstances. WHY IS IT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND?? WHAT MAKES YOU THINK YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO TAKE SOMETGUBG SO LIGHTLY?!!!! I didn't even know what sex was when I was raped. It REALLY REALKY REALLY hurt, emotionally more so than physically, and considering what I went through, that's saying a lot. And many rapist arnt silent while doing it. Mine weren't. They were laughing and growling and calling my names and telling me to shut up because I liked it because I was a little whore...I was eight..I was on my way to my friends house to play dolls..I was VERY lucky to get away. I thought they were going to kill me, and frankly I wanted them to, I didn't know when it was going to end and it felt like it never was, I didn't think I was going to get away. I was terrified. I cried and yelled for them to stop. They tried to force me to look at them, I couldn't look away to I closed my eyes shut tight and thought about my mother and my brother and how I'd never see them again. and for you to act like being raped is no big deal, makes you a monster in my eyes. Know that I am still just a little girl, who's living with this memory, I have severe night terrors having to relieve it. After your raped it still hurts for months going to the bathroom, I never told my mom. And don't say it's no big deal, don't tell me to get over it, because you can't imagine the pain. Your body feels gross, you've been humiliated, taken against your will. You don't CHOOSE who rapes you. They don't tell you don't worry I'm not gonna kill you. It tears the skin of your vagina bc your not libricated, and they aren't gentle with you. I could go on for hours and describe it but your a worthless peice of shit who probably wouldn't care. It's not brief at all. They don't care how much it's hurting. You aren't a person anymore, at least not to them. Then At 8 years old, I had tangled golden curls and a smile as wide as the ocean, I smiled and laughed a lot. even tho I was abused by my dad, I was a happy kid always looking on the bright side, I never considered myself pretty, but after that day it was impossible. When someone compliments me I want to scream and cry bc I feel discustibg. I was Trusting everything and everyone with my huge open heart. I loved people. I loved the world. Everything was beautiful. Even with my horribly abusive Dad I still could see the silver lining, because I tried with all my might to. He was horrible to me, so All I ever wanted was people and the world to love me back. I feel alone a lot and like no one cares. No one knew what happened or why I was that way because I was so ashamed of it and though if anyone knew they wouldn’t love me, or they'd blame me. my mom would ask y I didn't wanna play outside anymore. To say I felt lonely growing up would be an understatement. There were many days I told people I wish I were dead due to the shame I felt. I never understood why this would happen to me, an innocent child who just wanted to love everyone. Why would someone take this innocence and abuse it emotionally and physically? It wasn’t until 14 years after that day I started to open up about it. It's hard to want to cry when people look at you. To feel the need to constantly cover your body. I still feel worthless, mainly bc of my father, I lived with his abuse until last year. I'm no loner outgrowing and trusting. I don't feel deserving of kindness. My dad called me ugly, fat, worthless, a whore (again I was a child so...) a fucked ip problem, he said he'd ship me away in a box and sell me. He said I shouldn't have been born. I'm not seeing a therapist bc my mom thinks that dwelling on your feelings is unhealthy..this means I never get to come to terms with them..she's called me selfish for trying to open up to her one time...when someone gives me a gift, I want to cry. I want to give it back bc I don't feel deserving. I dread holidays. I hate myself all the time. Your right. Rape is no big deal.
If you think it's SO sexy, carry out that FANTASY with somebody using a safe word. I used to think rape was no big deal too (I'm a girl), and I also used to think murder was no big deal. But then I dropped my overly huge, fat-ass ego and thought logically. I put myself into somebody else's shoes.
Try it sometime, that's basically what the stupid book To Kill a Mockingbird was about - putting yourself in somebody else's shoes.
Is it normal that I think rape is no big deal?
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you know, anal prostate stimulation is generally seen as intensily positive and sexual act across men of all genders.
It's part of sex play as well as medicinal or massage elements, and some men even had a physical orgasm against their will from prostate stimulation.
So yes, unless i get to exactly choose the partner, it's quite exactly the same thing. So go ahead and think about how great it would be to be anally raped yourself by someone strong enough you can't fight back, that will cause you pain if you try to fight, possibly kill you after the deed, and leave you bleeding in the gutter. Sounds fun, hu?
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men of all genders being "men of all sexual orientations", of course.
Too late to edit, so i add it via reply.
Problem with that is I am A) Describing straight rape. B) Rape using minimal force required to subdue a particular victim and C) Not a minor, all of which people have conveniently discarded as if I didn't make it perfectly clear in my initial post.
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"Granted, I understand it's not fair, and you are taking away their choice, their consent, and violating their body and their rights, I understand that."
It's not your choice WHO you are raped by. It is, by definition, a forceful sexual act by a unwanted perpetrator. There is no "straight" rape. Thats merely a descriptive term to define genders. Rape is Rape. Wether it's a man raping a women, a man a man, a women a man or a woman a woman.
Still, if you are unable to understand, lets make it a straight rape scenario. So, a obese 50+year old woman who's only child was raped and killed developed a habit: She's drugging you in her cafe(she works there), then ties you up in her cellar and repeatedly penetrates you with her strap-on, possibly contemplating aloud wether she should just slit your throat and feed you to her dogs. That feel better in your mind? It's all straight, it's about control, she uses little force, so, you can enjoy that?
If you fail to understand that what HAPPENS when you are raped is no less humiliating, painful, and awful if the rapist is of the gender you usually prefer, then you don't understand what you are talking about at all.
All the same it makes little difference how much force is used. Wether you break an arm or just threaten to slit your victims throat does not make the act any less despicable. Suffocating a sleeping child with a pillow is no less severe a murder than hunting it down with an axe. Murder is murder, the violence is just an extra. Same with rape.
I did not refer to a minor. As Angel aptly said, rape is in large parts about control. I _HOPE_ you just have those beliefs because you feel nobody out there could control you, and your lack of vulnerability and a lack of empathy combine to an inability of understanding how things affect other people.
Hi, I'm Kat, I'm 15, I was raped by four men when I was eight, I also had a VERY abusive father, verbally, emotionally, and physically. Let me just say that being raped is a HUGE deal. I can't believe you would take it so lightly. What gives you the right to? Your a man who's never experienced it and you couldn't imagine the pain, the shame, the self hate, the helplessness, and vulnerability, so just SHUT UP. Because you have NO idea what your talking about.you can't imagine how HORRIBLE it is to have your body taken from you. And it doesn't matter what age it is, or the circumstances. WHY IS IT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND?? WHAT MAKES YOU THINK YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO TAKE SOMETGUBG SO LIGHTLY?!!!! I didn't even know what sex was when I was raped. It REALLY REALKY REALLY hurt, emotionally more so than physically, and considering what I went through, that's saying a lot. And many rapist arnt silent while doing it. Mine weren't. They were laughing and growling and calling my names and telling me to shut up because I liked it because I was a little whore...I was eight..I was on my way to my friends house to play dolls..I was VERY lucky to get away. I thought they were going to kill me, and frankly I wanted them to, I didn't know when it was going to end and it felt like it never was, I didn't think I was going to get away. I was terrified. I cried and yelled for them to stop. They tried to force me to look at them, I couldn't look away to I closed my eyes shut tight and thought about my mother and my brother and how I'd never see them again. and for you to act like being raped is no big deal, makes you a monster in my eyes. Know that I am still just a little girl, who's living with this memory, I have severe night terrors having to relieve it. After your raped it still hurts for months going to the bathroom, I never told my mom. And don't say it's no big deal, don't tell me to get over it, because you can't imagine the pain. Your body feels gross, you've been humiliated, taken against your will. You don't CHOOSE who rapes you. They don't tell you don't worry I'm not gonna kill you. It tears the skin of your vagina bc your not libricated, and they aren't gentle with you. I could go on for hours and describe it but your a worthless peice of shit who probably wouldn't care. It's not brief at all. They don't care how much it's hurting. You aren't a person anymore, at least not to them. Then At 8 years old, I had tangled golden curls and a smile as wide as the ocean, I smiled and laughed a lot. even tho I was abused by my dad, I was a happy kid always looking on the bright side, I never considered myself pretty, but after that day it was impossible. When someone compliments me I want to scream and cry bc I feel discustibg. I was Trusting everything and everyone with my huge open heart. I loved people. I loved the world. Everything was beautiful. Even with my horribly abusive Dad I still could see the silver lining, because I tried with all my might to. He was horrible to me, so All I ever wanted was people and the world to love me back. I feel alone a lot and like no one cares. No one knew what happened or why I was that way because I was so ashamed of it and though if anyone knew they wouldn’t love me, or they'd blame me. my mom would ask y I didn't wanna play outside anymore. To say I felt lonely growing up would be an understatement. There were many days I told people I wish I were dead due to the shame I felt. I never understood why this would happen to me, an innocent child who just wanted to love everyone. Why would someone take this innocence and abuse it emotionally and physically? It wasn’t until 14 years after that day I started to open up about it. It's hard to want to cry when people look at you. To feel the need to constantly cover your body. I still feel worthless, mainly bc of my father, I lived with his abuse until last year. I'm no loner outgrowing and trusting. I don't feel deserving of kindness. My dad called me ugly, fat, worthless, a whore (again I was a child so...) a fucked ip problem, he said he'd ship me away in a box and sell me. He said I shouldn't have been born. I'm not seeing a therapist bc my mom thinks that dwelling on your feelings is unhealthy..this means I never get to come to terms with them..she's called me selfish for trying to open up to her one time...when someone gives me a gift, I want to cry. I want to give it back bc I don't feel deserving. I dread holidays. I hate myself all the time. Your right. Rape is no big deal.
If you think it's SO sexy, carry out that FANTASY with somebody using a safe word. I used to think rape was no big deal too (I'm a girl), and I also used to think murder was no big deal. But then I dropped my overly huge, fat-ass ego and thought logically. I put myself into somebody else's shoes.
Try it sometime, that's basically what the stupid book To Kill a Mockingbird was about - putting yourself in somebody else's shoes.