What should be done about fathers that abandon their kids?

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  • PurpleHoneycomb

    I'm fully well aware that this opinion isn't going to be popular with most on this site; but why shouldn't I provide my honest opinion?

    If women are going to get prison sentences for abortion then fathers should get prison sentences for willingly opting out of parenthood. Obviously this would vary state by state.

    I'm generally pro-choice but fair is fair. Either neither should be able to opt out or both. Not one or the other. (If abortion is legal, child support should not be a requirement.)

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    • LloydAsher

      I 100% agree.

      Women you cannot have it both ways. If you can make the ultimate choice for a human life than why cant the guy decide he wants to void his parental responsibility?

      If abortion is restricted than 100% yes the guy should be on the hook for it too.

      I support true gender equality.

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    • Clunk42

      Technically speaking, abortion is worse than leaving one's family, so it would deserve a greater prison sentence. Both deserve prison sentences, though.

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      • PurpleHoneycomb

        (Apologies for the bit of a ramble. This isn't intended to come off as snarky.)

        As previously mentioned, I'm generally
        pro-choice. But, I'm pro-choice with most issues we face today. Drugs, vaccinations, guns, taxes, gender reassignment surgery, gay marriage, abortion...I think a person should have the right to do what they want with their money and their bodies. There's arguements to be made for and against all of these topics. All of which with different outlooks based on religion, the value of life, human psychology, traditional morality, or even more modern morality. I'm not here to convince anyone; I can't. But I just want genuine equality.

        I'm just about fairness in the legal system. These laws shouldn't be putting some people in control of their lives while stripping control away from others. Choices are at the core of all of these issues.

        Should people be able to CHOOSE to get vaccinated? Should people be able to CHOOSE to own a gun? Should people be able to CHOOSE to do drugs? Should people be able to CHOOSE to pay for sex? Should people be able to CHOOSE to practice their religion? So on and so forth - you get the point.

        The autonomy of one's body and mind is of great importance to me. It is something I believe everyone has the right to; regardless of what the issue is.

        From my understanding, the moral struggle with abortion is specifically around some people considering life to begin at various stages. Some believe it to be at conception, some believe it to be at the first heart beats, and others at later points.

        I see it as being a baby once it roughly starts to look like one. (The 9 to 10 week mark.)

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        • Clunk42

          "I see it as being a baby once it roughly starts to look like one. (The 9 to 10 week mark.)"

          The problem with that is that you're basing what is human and what is not human on mere appearances. Appearance does not make a person a person. One does not have to look like a person to be a person, so long as one is a person. If someone were so horrifically deformed, for example, that they did not look like a human, they would still be a human, no matter how inhuman they look.

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