I know I was saying this but people keep telling me I am idiot since I joined trade school. What else am I supposed to do? I need this degree. Even if everyone is shouting about what a retard I am for it. Why are people so tied to this religion? They are even against things that need a degree. It's the Anticollege religion. Doctors, accountants, teachers and Electrician's need to go to college. Why is it stupid to go if you want one of those jobs?
Doctors and accountants, I understand, because no one wants a doctor that hasn't learned a lot of things beforehand, and math is hard. Electricians, on the other hand, I'm fairly certain have a lot of apprenticeship-style opportunities; that is, ones where they do not have to go through trade-school.
Also, most people, when they speak against college, are not generally talking about trade schools, because they are generally considered superior to colleges when it comes to the relevancy and price of the training that they provide.
For example, let's say that someone wants to major in German, so they take all the classes required for that. Now, there aren't a lot of jobs that someone can get from majoring in German; they mostly have to do with translation or teaching. Now, I ask you, why in the world would such a person need to take college algebra or history classes? Now, I suppose that an argument could be made for college algebra (for example, it could be of use in filing taxes), but history classes? The only people who need history classes are historians and history teachers, and, even then, you can find a lot more useful information about history on the internet or through books than through history classes. Or, my local community college requires the taking of a "College Success" class that is about as useful (or more likely, less useful) as spending a few hours every week listening to TED Talks. These classes are pointless, and they are a massive waste of money.
Meanwhile, in trade schools, the general consensus is that you actually learn things that are relevant to your career, and the classes are noticeably cheaper.
Actually legally all electricians have to go through a two year program at a trade school or community college or an approved apprenticeship. After completing the program can legally qualify to take the state exam. At least they do in my state. Also the apprenticeships are very competitive as they do not always have a lot of spots. I know I was surprised too. Legally though while in school you can apply to jobs as a trainee but have to renew the card after a year while you still in electrician classes.
At least they have apprenticeship-type things. Where I am, apprentices are apparently in high demand.
Like I was saying earlier, though, people's big issues really aren't with trade schools. Their issues are usually with bachelor's degrees. Trade schools are generally considered fine because they genuinely focus on teaching in-depth about a particular subject, and the same is true with master's degrees and doctorates.
Bachelor's degrees, on the other hand, often serve no other purpose than to provide bragging rights, which can make a person look good to businesses. People especially tend to have problems with the really overpriced colleges, and fewer problems with the cheaper ones. For example, in my local community college, you can spend two years there and move over to the local big college to finish off a four-year degree, possibly continuing into a graduate's degree, and that doesn't cost that much. On the other hand, "prestige" colleges are a total scam, and I can't think of a single legitimate reason for a person to attend one.
What started the Anti college religion?
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I know I was saying this but people keep telling me I am idiot since I joined trade school. What else am I supposed to do? I need this degree. Even if everyone is shouting about what a retard I am for it. Why are people so tied to this religion? They are even against things that need a degree. It's the Anticollege religion. Doctors, accountants, teachers and Electrician's need to go to college. Why is it stupid to go if you want one of those jobs?
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Doctors and accountants, I understand, because no one wants a doctor that hasn't learned a lot of things beforehand, and math is hard. Electricians, on the other hand, I'm fairly certain have a lot of apprenticeship-style opportunities; that is, ones where they do not have to go through trade-school.
Also, most people, when they speak against college, are not generally talking about trade schools, because they are generally considered superior to colleges when it comes to the relevancy and price of the training that they provide.
For example, let's say that someone wants to major in German, so they take all the classes required for that. Now, there aren't a lot of jobs that someone can get from majoring in German; they mostly have to do with translation or teaching. Now, I ask you, why in the world would such a person need to take college algebra or history classes? Now, I suppose that an argument could be made for college algebra (for example, it could be of use in filing taxes), but history classes? The only people who need history classes are historians and history teachers, and, even then, you can find a lot more useful information about history on the internet or through books than through history classes. Or, my local community college requires the taking of a "College Success" class that is about as useful (or more likely, less useful) as spending a few hours every week listening to TED Talks. These classes are pointless, and they are a massive waste of money.
Meanwhile, in trade schools, the general consensus is that you actually learn things that are relevant to your career, and the classes are noticeably cheaper.
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Actually legally all electricians have to go through a two year program at a trade school or community college or an approved apprenticeship. After completing the program can legally qualify to take the state exam. At least they do in my state. Also the apprenticeships are very competitive as they do not always have a lot of spots. I know I was surprised too. Legally though while in school you can apply to jobs as a trainee but have to renew the card after a year while you still in electrician classes.
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At least they have apprenticeship-type things. Where I am, apprentices are apparently in high demand.
Like I was saying earlier, though, people's big issues really aren't with trade schools. Their issues are usually with bachelor's degrees. Trade schools are generally considered fine because they genuinely focus on teaching in-depth about a particular subject, and the same is true with master's degrees and doctorates.
Bachelor's degrees, on the other hand, often serve no other purpose than to provide bragging rights, which can make a person look good to businesses. People especially tend to have problems with the really overpriced colleges, and fewer problems with the cheaper ones. For example, in my local community college, you can spend two years there and move over to the local big college to finish off a four-year degree, possibly continuing into a graduate's degree, and that doesn't cost that much. On the other hand, "prestige" colleges are a total scam, and I can't think of a single legitimate reason for a person to attend one.