A company wont hire you if your not educated?
if you got no diploma you cant get a job. what if your smart without the education
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postmanloverr
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Ellenna
Lots of very intelligent people have no knowledge of grammar, that's an artificial construct, intelligence is not
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postmanloverr
Good point I hadn't thought of that, it doesn't seem to happen that way very often tho
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Ellenna
Oh but I think it does: I worked for a few years in a remote Aboriginal community and there were very many people there who couldn't read or write but could speak four languages, predict weather, find food and water in what appeared to be a barren landscape and pass down complicated oral history and spirituality. They were also pretty good at healing pre-invasion illnesses and had devised a very complicated kinship system which prevented incest in small nomadic groups in the past and still continues to a great extent. Their social organisation is based on each person having obligations to care for and give to other specific individuals. It worked very well for 40,000 years before invasion and also cared for the environment.
Now that's what I call REAL intelligence!
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mystery7
"what if your smart without the education"
(BTW should be "you're" -- employers notice bad grammar)Depends what kind of smart you're talking about.
Most employers won't recognise you're smart without a qualification to prove it.
And smart for dealing with drunk patrons is a different kind of smart to being a nurse, doctor or stock broker.
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kradmelder
If you were smart then you would have realised the need for an education. It will get worse. The world has a shortage of skills and a huge overabundance of labour.
By any standard, unemployment vs education level, average wage vs education level etc you would see education is the way of the future. If you can't see that you can't claim to be smart.
If you are black you can always cry racism or blame it on slavery or blame it on the bunny.
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Lonely2
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Justnerdyme
Not being able to get a job because you don't have the qualifications is normal, so is being overqualified for a job too.
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Unimportant
I agree, there is a bit of a diploma-'fetish' going on in our culture. As if all people with diplomas were smart. Please.
Obviously, the odds to meet a smart person are better if you look among educated people. But a diploma is neither necessary nor sufficient to be smart.
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Ellenna
I know lots of people with little education who are very smart and there are hundreds of certificate and diploma factories in Australia receiving government funding to "educate" people who then can't get a job, or get one they aren't actually qualified to do. I assume it's the same in other countries?
I left high school at 14 and then did a year at a secretarial college and my ability to use good grammar and spelling is due to my bookish home environment, not my formal education. Even in primary school I knew better grammar than my teacher!
However, that was in the days when a secretarial qualification had reasonably high status and there were more employers around who were prepared to teach people on the job and in less than ten years I was classified as a law clerk (they call them par-legals now) in charge of a small department in a large firm. It wouldn't happen now.
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howaminotmyself
Then it shows you either don't know how to follow the rules, or you don't play well with others. Maybe both. Those are not the qualities an employer seeks.
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NeuroNeptunian
This.
@OP
I work with disadvantaged and criminal youth for a living and come from a very similar background to most of them.Most of my drop-outs met one of both of these categories.
High School is the bare freakin' minimum. If you can't stick it out there, it's assumed that you don't have what it takes to stick it out in the kind of situations that many jobs can throw you in.
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Ellenna
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howaminotmyself
Grammar is a key component of communication. At least it is with verbal and written communication. If you can't communicate well with others, then working with them will be complicated. Not impossible, but a bit difficult.
But I don't recall the post mentioning grammar.
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_Crusades