Alternate schooling program. what do you think?

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Public school is not always the best education if it can really be considered an education at all. However some places have options of doing homeschooling online and its free and still counts as public school. However an issue some people wonder about is socializing skills with children who do not go to a school with other children. We have the third and fourth option which is charter and private school as well.

I think that School kids go to for the day should be socializing classes. That teach you how to socialize. As well as preventing more suicides and bullying will teach children how to interact correctly and how to deal with stress and hormones. I think they should offer free busing for all children going to that school.

I Think that when children get home which if like mine usually got home 3 hours before parents got off of work. I think that time should be spent doing online classes. Teachers would still be teaching the kids online and we would have adults made to watch children and teach them how to interact properly. School will not be as long as it is usually just a few hours in the morning maybe starting at 8 or 9.

It has already been shown that home school kids get a better education. Usually learn a lot more as well. Why should you have to choose between if your child has an education or gets some air and talks to people now and again? At age 11 children will be taught about sexuality, how organs work, pressure, why not to have sex to stay with a girl/boy, rape, sexual abuse, abusive relationships, sexual harassment and how to deal with hormones and sexual thoughts.

I really like this idea 10
I have a different idea 5
I like your idea but think you would like to tweak it a bit 7
I think we should just pick one of the existing school systems 6
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  • dom180
    11 years ago

    I think if homeschooled kids really do get a better education that's probably because their parents are likely to be far more enthusiastic about learning and more "intellectually engaged" than the average parent, not because there is anything innately better about the location of the home as opposed to the location of the classroom. In fact, people tend to compartmentalise places based on the role of the places; "school is for work, home is for play". When you get a situation where home is for work *and* play, kids are more tempted to not concentrate when they're working because they're thinking about playing.

    I like the idea of socialising classes if it was done in the right way, but I think it would be better off incorporated into a "normal", classroom-centred education system. And think about it, a couple of hours *every morning* for over 10 years of your life learning how to socialise? :P That sounds like overkill to me. Maybe having these classes for an hour or two once a week would be more appropriate.

    I think a better solution would be to increase the standard of quality of public schools, be that by increasing funding or improving the legislation that governs them.

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    • Anonymous Post Author
      11 years ago

      Schools are given a lot of money and some have programs they do not utilize or just don't need. I think that in order to get more money they should ensure they can get the children to pass first.

      Instead of adding 10 more classes and still not having anyone pass. More is not better if its still a bunch of failed students. If you pick the methods and classes that work and help the students those should be kept.

      Though some schools just keep adding extra stuff they don't need that are not needed or productive. If they had a lot of classes that did something that would be more of a debate. I do not speak of things like sports and art either.

      They also will waste money on things and extra classes and completely ignore things they should probobly spend the money on. Like getting healthier food for the children. Maybe better equipment for physical education.

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      • dom180
        11 years ago

        I think the way schools are allocated money is wrong, and the wrong schools are allocated too much money while some get too little.

        Today, it was announced that my (very successful) school was getting £4 million from the government to start a brand new building project that we just don't need. That sort of thing happens all time time, it's called "payment by results". Really, I think failing schools should get that money, because if we have a "payment by results" system we just end up widening the inequality gap and failing schools fall even further behind.

        I also think that some school spending should be mandated, either by the local government or the national government. That means that a school would legally required to spend a certain amount on healthy eating, a certain amount on sciences, a certain amount on teacher's wages, physical education, field trips... etc. That would ensure all kids get a balanced education.

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        • Anonymous Post Author
          11 years ago

          Giving a failing school money does nothing. In fact a lot of failing schools get a extra money with little results. The thing is they do that now and it doesn't work. If they want more money they should work for it.

          We would be like now encouraging schools who are doing nothing to continue. If they go so many years and they still have a ton of failing kids something is being done wrong. If they are getting kids with mainly high scores it means they are doing something right.

          If you really think about it nothing about these schools are different. The issue is the people within them and the money management. Some schools have done a lot with less. Throwing money at it does not always fix the issue.

          You can give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. If you teach a man to fish he can eat for a life time. If you do not teach them how to be self sufficient its just going to collapse later.

          If someone does bad you do not reward them and tell them it is good. It just enables them to continue with the lousy behavior. If we do not want them to continue we cant just keep sending them money. That is telling them we don't care.

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          • dom180
            11 years ago

            I agree we can't only throw money at the problem, but with money you can pay for more talented people to run schools, better teachers and better teacher training. You *can* solve management issues using money if the money is mandated to be used in the right way.

            What are you talking about when you say we need to teach schools to be self-sufficient? That can never happen because schools don't generate their own money, they get given it by the government as I'm sure you know.

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  • Darkoil
    11 years ago

    I was confused by this because public schools in England are higher class independant schools. So instead of only needing one teacher for say 30 children in a classroom, we now need one teacher and 30 adults to watch the 30 children as they learn. Who are these adults? Are they family members? What about if a single working parent does not have any family who could watch the child while they are doing this extra studying? What about if a family has five children of various ages, does that mean that in their house they need five seperate computers so they can all do their seperate online classes after the 'socilising school', if so they may need quite a fast internet conncetion to stream five video chats, what happens if their internet isn't fast enough? What happens if the internet connection is lost during a lesson for one or all the kids, when are they supposed to learn that class content? During science classes how are these children supposed to carry out experiments over the internet, do they have access to the equipment at home, what if some of the equipment is dangerous, is the glorified babysitter trained to handle the equipment as well? If the children are studying music how are they supposed to play togther, do they each sit at their computer playing their instrument? What about after school clubs and detentions, do they have to go back to the actual school afterwards? Why would you want to start school at 8 when it has been shown schools which start at 10 have higher pass rates. I actually know a few people who were home schooled and one of them can't even read, the other lot didn't pass their GCSE's so I wouldn't put a lot of faith into home schooling.

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    • Anonymous Post Author
      11 years ago

      No they will be kind of like teachers except they don't teach. So just babysitters who are trained to teach children social skills. So a teacher in a sense but not educating you about math, science, English so on.

      Why would you have detention after school? That is the point of watching the children to make sure they do not get in any fights or mishaps. Ok well basically I am describing a type of finishing school. If children are in a fight they will learn how to dissolve it.

      The family is not going to meant to watch the children. You make an good point with the multiple children thing. I think either let them take turns on the computer or perhaps think of an arrangement where the kids can be loaned one(computer). Which schools actually started doing to replace books. Which they have to replace every single year.

      No when you do it online you are just doing classes not experiments. Also not all schools let you do the experiments anyways. So that really depends on the public school.

      For the after school club I was thinking the same as they do now. they can do it after school is out. So if they want to stay for additional hours they can do that but it has to be arranged with the school.

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  • Couman
    10 years ago

    I'm skeptical about "socializing classes". But I do agree that it's good for kids to get together and have an opportunity to socialize. I'm thinking maybe some kind of vaguely educational but fun and lightly structured activity. I think that would naturally provide a much better atmosphere for positive social interactions than a conventional school which can be almost prison-like at times. This would be in addition to online classes covering heavier subjects of course.

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  • q25t
    11 years ago

    I take issue with one statement you made in your post.

    "It has already been shown that home school kids get a better education."

    There have been studies that have showed homeschooled children get higher test scores, but the methodology was massively flawed in the major study that is always cited. It compares a total average of all public school students taken in a controlled environment against homeschooled children who opted to take the test and some of these took the test at home with a parent.

    Other than that, it doesn't really sound like a bad plan, but I don't feel like we need much more socializing in school than we have right now. The current school system has been in place for a few hundred years and has produced functioning members of society. It can probably be improved, but I don't think our issues lie with social skills.

    I definitely agree with you on the online course material idea, especially if the students are allowed to progress at their own pace. That was my main gripe with school when I was still there; everything was going far too slow, while others complained of the exact opposite. A self taught course would remedy this issue.

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