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Im an American I love my country but I honestly respect Vladimir Putin as a leader more than Joe Biden. Dont get me wrong I know Putins interests dont align with my nation. So I would never view him as a savior or even an ally. But then again I do not trust Biden to be that either. But I respect Putin more as a leader even tho I disagree with his war.
I think perhaps you look at leaders to be a kind of alpha male on the world stage. It can be seducing that, yeah, the power! But there is also power in diplomacy it’s just more subtle. Some people just see leaders like that as passive. And I’m not actually tying that into Biden at all, it’s just a general comment.
I do, and I guess I should have been more detailed in my post because people seemed to have gotten the idea that I admire Putin or agree with some of his politics. I just take him serious. You can respect your enemy. It is obviously taboo to do this I guess.
It sounds like you might have an authoritarian personality. People with this mindset feel a need for a strong leader whom they can surrender control to and obey. They tend to have a black and white view of the world, think that most people are assholes, believe that there's a simple solution to every problem in society and tend towards blind obedience of existing social norms.
People with this mindset often were raised by authoritarian parents who felt a need to dominate and control their children. From the earliest years of the child's life, they were taught that there were strictly defined, rigid rules which must be obeyed, and any infractions would result in harsh punishment. This results in an adult who feels a need for a society which operates in a similar way, and they long for a strong leader who will forcefully slap down anyone who dares to challenge the existing rules.
It's no coincidence that many evangelical Christians and the fanatical believers of other religions have an authoritarian personality. The belief in a set of clear, rigid, sacred laws and a powerful deity who will harshly punish those who sin meshes very neatly with what sort of political system they want in their country and the type of person they want to have at the head of it.
I am a christian but I do believe in seperation of church and state. I am not an authoritarian. I am not a liberal either, because liberals of today are authoritarians. Im quite libertatian in most of my views. I think Christianity has good values but since I dont agree with others shoving their values down my throat I dont think its right to shove mine down their throat. That would be hypocritical and just come back to hurt me. This is why seperation of church in state is important.
I think a strong leader is good but you do not at all need to be authoritarian to be strong and also a competent leader is nice as well. Both of which Biden is not.
Wikipedia often gets slammed for being full of shit, so maybe you can enlighten me on how this summary definition of libertarianism should be corrected:
"Libertarians seek to maximize autonomy and political freedom, and minimize the state; emphasizing free association, freedom of choice, individualism and voluntary association."
Putin is very obviously completely opposed to every single one of those things.
So either that definition of libertarianism is wrong, or your belief about you can best summarise your political stance is wrong. Considering how you also deploy the tired old alt-right trope about liberals being authoritarian, I suspect you're just politically naïve (there's a less charitable way to express that thought, but we're supposed to play nicely here).
I hate to break it to you but I dont agree with any of Putins policies or politics lol. But I dont think I'm alone in respecting him more than Joe Biden. I think on the world stage Putin is much more respected than Joe Biden. The Saudis wont even answer Joe Biden's phone calls. Joe Biden is seen as a joke. Putin is taken serious on the world stage. I also respect Obama in ways I think he was a sharp guy and a good talker. I dont agree with Obama either but I take him serious. When he talks I listen.
Fair enough. I understand what you're saying, but I guess we use the term "respect" in different ways.
I wouldn't have had any respect for Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Mao, Saddam Hussein or any of the countless other murderous tyrants who have slaughtered and exploited millions in their twisted pursuit of power. Nor can I respect the fundamentally second-rate, delusional little shit who managed to manipulate his way to power in Russia at the turn of the millennium and has spent the last two decades systematically robbing the Russian people blind while simultaneously indoctrinating them into believing that he's wonderful.
It's clear now that a lot of people weren't listening carefully to what Putin said and paying close enough attention to the shit he pulled over the years, but a despicable person like him does not deserve any respect.
True, true. I agree with all of those points.
Theres a line between a strong leader and a dictator. Censorship of any kind is dictatorial. A strong leader doesnt need to rely on propaganda in order for him to win. That applies to both putin and biden. Putin just straight up kills his opponents. Biden mumbles in his already heavily scripted speeches and the media covers his ass by translating what hes saying. All the while when trump went on his tangents they transcribed word for word. Trump fundamentally speaks different. Wording his sentences weirdly to put greater leverage and emphasis on words. Not saying it isnt difficult to understand but I understand the purpose. Biden? Hes asleep after 4pm. The dudes brain is slush.
I perfer a leader that isnt an murderous authoritarian and a leader who's not bumbling through the highest position in the world... that's not to say I perfer Kamala either, shes just flat out corrupt.
I'm not entirely sure there's a major world politician that I respect currently. I have issues with each of the ones I've done any meaningful research into.
So how much of this from let's go Brandon and the democratic party is payback.
Remembering Ukraine's president Z is the same guy who was elected after the previous corrupt government was in bed with Biden and his son. A president that agreed to work with Trump and look into the corruption with Biden and his son.
If it has Trump's name attached or associated with it, Brandon has done everything he can to destroy it. Has nobody thought back to how freindly the Obama Brandon, and Hillary administration was with Russia and the great reset.
Getting president Z out, and destroying evidence could be a very good out come for Brandon, his family, and the Democrats.
That would also explain why Brandon and the US was so slow to act and actually seemed to encourage Putin.
Brando may not have had his finger on the 'GO' button, but there were definitely some positive out comes to allowing Putin to do it.
I understand the NATO and nuke thing but that never stopped the world police of the USA from going up against Russia or Russian back countries previously. The blood of all the Ukrainian and Russian people killed are jointly on Putin and Brandon.
The UN and the US could have taken actions almost a year ago to put sanctions in place or at least prevented the cut off of supplies from Russia from hurting the rest of Europe has much. That in it's self may have stopped the invasion.
Putin is smart if he didn't have Europe in the palm of his hand and maybe the blessing of the USA leadership he would not have done it.
Why cant you just hate both?
I like trump because putin didnt pull this shit. Not while a wildcard was in office. Biden is weak, putin rubbing together his three brain cells decided to "liberate" ukraine now rather than 3 years ago.
That being said putin is an atrocious leader. The only thing a dictatorship does well is keeping the dictator in control. His army is using 21 century weapons using 1940s tatics. The middle command structure is swiss cheese and hes losing high ranking officers left and right. All for what? Getting just enough land to bury your dead? In exchange for having your currency devalued to the point where you need to close your own stock markets for weeks on end?
Putin isnt a strong leader he is a leader that needs people to fear him otherwise hell just disappear. Putin believe it or not is a weaker opponent than biden is. We can always replace Biden. So he needs to act at least somewhat in the public's intest. Putin can do whatever he wants and let's his police brutes and propaganda make it "the peoples desire"
Assuming ukraine can hold on for another month I truely believe that the russian war machine will grind to a halt. Just like in Afghanistan if they keep on sending back boys in boxes the mothers will revolt. This is on top of the shit currency and the totally censure of almost the entire global economy to Russia.
Another thing about russia losing is the fact they are using mercenary groups. Fun fact about mercenaries is that they wanna be alive to spend their wages. Not alot of patriotic motivation to fight. As well as a dwindling amount of money to be paid. Using mercenaries is not a good sign that you are winning. In fact it's one of the signs you are losing if you're a country that's large enough to have an actual military.
I dont believe the war is good but people are looking past the economic side of what is happening now. I do think that economically Russia may come out of this better than we think. They saw these sanctions coming and moved funds around. They now using Chinas new banking network instead of the swift network. Its looking like theres a new alliance being formed that is India, China, and Russia. Saudi Arabia is thinking of dropping the dollar and going with Chinas currency. Putin 2 major exports have not been sanctioned they're still making money of western europe. The Russian currency is seemingly stabilizing.
This was not just some idiot in power that made a spontaneous choice to invade his neighbor like they're saying. This was a well thought out thing they have been planning for probably over a decade now. The west can put sanctions and get their companies like McDonalds and Apple to leave. But if Russia sanctions the west Europe will starve. They can cut quadruple their energy bill.
And russia and China are both net importers of food. The west has a greater capacity to starve our enemies than our enemies can of us.
Yes but they can get what they gotten from western europe from india and china. And thats what they're going to start doing according to them. You guys are not thinking past "putin bad how could you say putin thought this out"
You seem to also be confused into thinking I like or agree with Putin or Xi politics. Who do you think is taken more serious on the world stage? Putin or Biden? Just because you respect someone as a leader of a country does not mean you admire or agree with any of their politics.
Problem is that respecting putin is tantamount to supporting him.
"I respect hitler" "he had the ball to invade europe, he tried his best for the german economy!" "I just respect hitler what do you mean hes bad in most categories in being a human?"
You know damn why