Are battle tanks becoming obsolete in warfare?

They're seriously struggling against anti-tank weapons in Ukraine, it seems. They've become so powerful that they can obliterate tanks with a single shot. And drones also pose a significant threat to them.

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  • megadriver

    I wouldn't say they are obsolete, but they need backup and anti-drone support. Something Russia doesn't have. Also Russia has a lot of old T-64 and T-72 tanks. Those are 60s and 70s designs not built for the modern battlefield.
    Russians don't rely on technology to fight wars. They rely on manpower. From lots and lots of disposable soldiers.

    Next gen tanks will definitely have jammers that prevent target lock and high frequency millimeter wave radar to track and intercept anti-tank missiles.

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  • olderdude-xx

    The gulf war in about 1990 showed that tanks were sitting ducks for modern portable and air missiles, unless your side could also dominate the air and had really good ground protection for the tanks.

    The portable missiles can now kill tanks from at least 3 miles away.

    I'd not say that they are obsolete. But, there effective use is now far more limited than it used to be.

    They are fine against largely civilians and lightly weaponed infantry.

    They are no longer that usable against anyone heavily armed with anti- tank missiles.

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  • Tommythecaty

    Everything bar drones is obsolete as far as modern warfare goes.

    You donโ€™t even need soldiers other than one to control the drone ๐Ÿคฃ

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  • MonteMetcalfe

    Monkeys wearing explosive vests are the future of warfare.

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    • Gorilla warfare.

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      • MonteMetcalfe

        lol! Good one.

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    • Boojum

      The most brilliantly whacko idea of using animals in warfare that I'm aware of is the plan during WWII to use pigeons to guide bombs.

      Basically, the idea was that pigeons would be trained to peck at a particular target - some German factory producing engines for the Luftwaffe, or whatever - by dispensing a couple grains of food every time they pecked at the centre of the target. The bomb would consist of a compartment for the pigeon, and an image from the lens at the front of the bomb would be projected on a screen in the pigeon's little cabin. The screen would be linked to the fins on the back of the bomb with a mechanism arranged so that if the pigeon pecked off-centre, the fins would steer the bomb so it lined up on the target again.

      As far as I can recall, no pigeons were deliberately harmed in this project, since it was figured out pretty quickly that training pigeons for this task took too long.

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      • MonteMetcalfe

        During the Gulf War 2, Morocco offered to send 2000 monkeys trained in detonating land mines.
        That plan probably produced more than a few chain smoking monkeys with the shakes.

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    • 1WeirdGuy

      Thats genius actually just tell the monkey he gets a banana if he goes to the target

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  • 1WeirdGuy

    Warfare is always changing. In recent years we have seen just how especially effective guerrilla warfare is. It doesnt do you any good having a massive military with trillions in equipment if you dont even know who your enemy is. You have to either wipe out the entire population or play a guessing game. This is good to keep government in line because if politiciana piss off their population too much it can be really hard to contain. You cant exactly wipe out your own citizens because there goes your own economy. You "stalin" your own country into collapse. If you dont know who the rebels are you can only try to appease them.

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  • Whatintarnation

    I think tanks have their place on the battlefield. From what I've gathered Russia is simply fighting stupidly with them. Tanks in combination with infantry and air support are still extremely deadly. We're just witnessing what a bad plan, poor logistics, and poor training earns you.

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  • KholatKhult

    NO !!!
    Donโ€™t you say such a thing about glorious tanks.

    We will simply catapult our tanks into your silly little $560,000,000 war planes or attach bouys to the tracks and drive them across the ocean

    It is perfect plan please do not question Russian military strategy it is flawless never been wrong 0 losses go Russia #1 greatest country URRRRAAAAAA ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ

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    • That'd be one hell of a sight, catapulting tanks thousands of meters into the air.

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      • KholatKhult

        We will give the tank drivers parachutes of course, they have already proved to be excellent at bailing

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  • Boojum

    Ever since a decade or so after tanks first appeared in WWI, advances in anti-tank weaponry have led people to suggest that they're obsolete. But it's always been one of those situations where a technology and the technology to counter the first technology have seesawed back and forth.

    The antitank weapons being used in Ukraine are fearsome, but a big part of the problem for the Russians is that they're sending out armoured vehicles without screening infantry, without definite air superiority and apparently often without any idea of what they're going to encounter. If you do that, then some guy with a $30,000 missile can pop up from nowhere and blow up your $1,000,000 tank and it's trained crew. In the long run, that's not how you win a war.

    Drones are also fearsome weapons when handled correctly, and a relatively few number of drones have caused havoc for the Russians. But, again, technology to counter that threat does exist and the Russians seem to have it, but they've just not used it effectively in many cases.

    Obviously, any military technology has a finite lifetime. There will come a day when enormous (and enormously expensive) armoured behemoths will no longer be able to survive in combat for long, but from what I've read, it seems that day has not yet come.

    I think the technology we should be keeping our eyes on is drones. The concept of swarms of small, autonomous, AI-controlled drones roaming a battlefield and taking out anything they deem to be a valid target is pretty scary. We're a ways from that, but I bet they appear in the next couple of decades at most.

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    • megadriver

      Lets hope those AI controlled drones aren't hooked up to one central supercomputer that takes over all military systems.
      And then decides to wage war against humans and build Schwarzenegger robot lookalikes.

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