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Christians, if you could go back in time to when Jesus was being crucified, would you try to save him, or would you stand back and do nothing, since your entire faith depends on him being crucified?
| Other (explain) | 2 | |
| I would stand back and do nothing | 17 | |
| I would try to save him | 3 |
Man if I had a time machine I'd invest in Microsoft, Google and Apple or some shit, not save Jesus.
I am not a Christian but if I went back in time to watch Jesus being crucified, I would comfort Mary and let her know he's coming back. Stop it? Stop what...his not dying? This makes no sense.
Not really. For one I'm a 6ft tall white dude who has no idea how to speak latin or Hebrew. As well as jesus becoming a martyr was one of the most important events in the bible.
I would honestly be more intrested in seeing the iron age first hand.
I would like to think I wouldn't. That I would trust Him when He decided to die in that way and at that time. And here's why:
"Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.
Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:1-6 kjv
"since your entire faith depends on him being crucified"
Says who? The focal point of my religion is the atonement, not the crucifixion
Not completely true. He needed to die, crusification was just a particularly bad way to die. (And very flashy/memorable)
The martyrdom had the impact. And the resurrection was the reward.
He needed to die for the martyrdom and to show his followers that they could be resurrected too, but those things aren't the main focus at least in my religion
Never said it was the main climax. Just said it was a meaningful story arc.
I'm agnostic so I have gaps in what arcs have what meaning. Was raised Lutheran though so martyrdom was less of a focus than the general forgiveness.
Oh I know you didn't think it was the main climax, I was still addressing OP when I said that. I'd prefer not to say what religion I'm a member of because I don't think I'm a great member and I don't want to give everyone else a bad name
I dont doubt anyone's religion unless you are performing human sacrafice.
I put up with clunk42 catholic rhetoric enough to not be absolutely bigoted on religion. In fact I dislike atheists the most.
Am agnostic as in there is a god. But its currently unknown if the entity is just a fabric of reality, the first rule in existance that everything came after as a domino effect. Or it's an omniscient being that may or may not directly influence the physical world. Either out of respect for creation or we are that low of a priority.
Being a resolute atheist is a philosophical conundrum especially if said atheists think they are above others for their non beliefs. Ironically making themselves into a religious faction of zero.
I would stand back and do nothing because Jesus needed to die, the Father obviously had that planned out for him.
I'm pretty sure trying to save him from the cross would being going against gods wishes. I mean it was his idea in the first place.
"Other" really needs way more votes, since this question is so loaded I can barely believe it.
Jesus wasn't crucified by some dude in his backyard. I would have NO chance of saving him. None. Zero. Nada. If I had superpowers and was somehow able to save him from a whole empire, then yeah, I would feel bad if I didn't. I'm not going to just stand around and watch a guy die painfully for what should have been a chickenshit misdemeanor.
His was a public execution, though. You can't just walk up with a hammer and claw the nails out. I would also have a tough time redirecting his trajectory earlier because... he's Jesus. He's not going to listen to me.
And my faith does NOT depend on him being crucified, that's ridiculous. Not sure why it's being repeated in the comments, either. There's this thing called "old age", guys. Jesus was going to die eventually. Being nailed to a cross with thorns in your head is just what I would call "cruel and unusual". It wasn't necessary for anything.
It's like saying "I'm destined to die" and then jumping into a meat grinder. There's other options, I assure you! Even back then, there were other options!
Im not christian, and knowing full well how easy it was to make people fearful ( although fear mongering still exists today), no one would believe me if I told them I was from the future and that Jesus should be saved not crucified… i dont care enough about him to create a plan to free him without others knowing of my existence ect.
Even Jesus knew it was coming to him - and dreaded it. But at the end of the day, it was what he chose. He saw it necessary to do it in order to fulfil what he had come to fulfil.
I'd save him. Put an end to the bloody religion once and for all. However that'd be pretty dependant on if I can bring my rifle cause no way I'm beating a bunch of Roman's without firearms
I’m not really a Christian anymore. But we were taught that Jesus had to die to redeem ourselves from sin, this was prophesied in the the Old Testament.
A true Christian WOULDN’T have prevented Christ from being crucified.
And by army you would be going against the iron age equivalent to the usa. Not going to win by a longshot.
Unless you had significant amounts of time to prepare beforehand. Invent gunpowder 900 years before its inception. Have hyper advanced dr stone type metal working skills, and remembered the configuration of a musket. As well as sourcing a sufficient amount of sulfur (perhaps from tanneries or medical institutions) for your rifles, because we are dealing with the roman army you would also have to deal with archers and slingers. So simple pistols wont do shit because of the range. So rifles and grenades would be your go to.
You would have to also prevented your army from immediately conquering its neighbors or other minorities in the area. Back then Judaism was just another cult that existed, around the myriad of other cults on top of the state religion of the Roman's.
Perhaps the better use for your army and time was to help out the roman republic. The basic level of knowlage the average man has sent back in time would of been invaluable to ancient people... assuming you weren't crucified for being a heretic.
(This is ofcourse assuming you knew the local languages at the time. Being a mute wasnt exactly a charismatic approach to leadership)
If he was already being crucified I wouldnt risk being crucified along side him. My self preservation instincts would kick in. This makes me respect the early christians who chose to be burned alive rather than convert. I dont think I'm a coward at all and I could never have that type of courage.