Did they find the cure for coronavirus? trump says we'll be back to normal
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There are still people who believe everything baboonmouth Trump has to say
well if Trump says it, it MUST be true... (If you didn't get the sarcasm, you misunderstood)
I hate to be the one to tell you but they don't make cures for these type of things buddy
We don't need a cure. The coronavirus covid-19, affects.00005% of the population. The whole thing is just wrong as fuck. It does not even statistically exist. The entire world has lost their mind and I am going crazy because I can't believe how fuckin stupid people are.
What do you mean affects 0.00005% of the population? Much more than 0.00005% of the people who catch it die from it.
If you mean that only 0.00005% of the population has it so far then that doesn't really mean anything, people aren't afraid because of the amount of people who have it right now, they're afraid because of the amount of people who might have it in the future if we don't take measures to stop it. It takes time to spread. Look at the numbers of how it's spread over just the past few weeks and then project those numbers into the future. A good portion of the world could catch it by the end of the year.
Here's a weird fact I learned yesterday:
When epidemiologists run computer models of influenza epidemics, they assume the virus has a transmission factor of 1.3. In other words, each person who catches flu will infect, on average, 1.3 other people (who then, of course, go on to each infect another 1.3 people).
COVID-19 has a transmission factor of at least three and possibly more. In other words, it's much more easily passed on, probably because flu only becomes communicable once the lungs are infected, while COVID-19 becomes communicable when the upper respiratory system is infected.
That doesn't sound like a much larger number than the factor for flu, but the math means that something dramatic happens if you calculate out a chain of ten jumps.
With a transmission factor of 1.3 and a single infected person, after ten jumps a total of 14 people are infected.
With a transmission factor of 3 and a single infected person, after ten jumps a total of 59,000 people are infected.
If this seems implausible, open your calculator app and multiply 3 by itself ten times.
After 18 jumps from the hypothetical Patient Zero, a theoretical maximum of nearly 400 million people are infected, so that's the entire population of the USA accounted for. Of course, it's possible the virus wouldn't be that successful in reality, but it highlights the scale of the danger.
No matter how much wishful thinking people engage in, COVID-19 is not just a minor variation the flu. As absurd as it may seem, it is so contagious and our world is so interconnected that a single person having an unfortunate encounter with a single bat in the middle of China just a few months ago means that the descendants of that original virus are now almost certainly very close to everyone who reads this.
Wow I didn't realise it was that much more infectious than the flu, I thought it was about the same. And even then I didn't think it would make that much a difference. I thought I was aware of maths and exponentials, but I never would've guessed there'd be that big a difference after just 10 jumps between a rate of 1.3 to 3. I did have to try it myself with a calculator tbh, I thought you must've been exaggerrating. Great answer Boojum!
Ta, Jelly.
I do find the maths very weird (and very worrying) - but then I'm just not a mathematically-minded person.
Even if the infection rate is only 2, ten jumps gives a total of more than a thousand people infected.
I can't remember if it was in the same video, but I've also seen an animation of a tree structure showing what a huge impact breaking that chain of transmission at just a few points early on can have on the final number of infections. This, obviously, is what the whole social-isolation strategy is about.
No one knows the infection or transmission rates because random testing hasn't been done. You prolly know this tho and live to play with the numbers knowing that a slight skew will make it much worse than it actually is. Pathetic.
No problem, it's a mystery this stuff isn't being shown on the news and stuff. People will be way less likely to immediately dismiss warnings out of hand if they see a visual representation like a tree structure.
"they're afraid because of the amount of people who might have it"
News flash, you may die driving to work. More people dead from automobile accidents than the entire coronavirus pandemic. 3 fold.
Actually if we didn't quarantine, the US would potentially lose millions within just a span of three months. Also this isn't just about deaths. Do you know how overwhelmed hospitals are right now and that's with the isolating. They have to make hospitals outside and in buildings that hold concerts and sports. You don't seem to understand.
I wouldn't say it doesn't exist but yeah people are freaking the fuck out about it.
Nik here is something even funnier - I remember in 2010 when H1N1 made it's rounds, for some odd-ass reason, Lupus made a cameo.
Now that people are queefing about covid-19, Lupus is making yet another cameo. Maybe it is trying to make a comeback.
I remember in the 1980's when AIDS was the big scare, Leukemia was making a cameo.
It is almost like show business. I think they should have opening acts also. Like say polio comes, then the main disease attraction, and of course some obscure ailment doing a cameo. Maybe ebola could be the special guest.
They're working on the vaccine now.
I don't think we'll be entirely back to normal after this is over though, because there will be a lot of OCD germaphobic people out there who will continue to take precautions like the ones we are all doing now as a result of the trauma of this time of quarantine. A lot of people will find themselves living in perpetual fear of the next big epidemic/pandemic even if it doesn't come for another one hundred years.
Trump wasnt talking about things running completely normal. We need to turn the economy back on. The economy cant work with just a bunch of people isolated. So hes deciding if the coronovirus response would actually destroy the economy completely if we dont pump money into it or at least make the social isolation more applicable to helping the economy.
As a libertarian I generally hate it when the goverment bails out companies but this is a pandemic not normal buisness being driven dry. So I'm willing to pump future money into the beast so the beast doesnt starve and send us into a giant depression.