Do you believe in god?

I know that's a very broad question and entails all sorts of scientific versus spiritual doctrines, but do you believe in God? I heard back in the 1950s that the culture was completely different from today with much stronger moral and family values. And think that the De evolution of our society today is due to a lack of our generation believing in a supreme being. Back in the 1950s a typical show would be "leave it to beaver" and when most of us look back at this we say, what? That so fake. And today I think we're desensitized because of all the simulated killings and horrific things we see in movies and TV versus 60 years ago in our grandparents time. So do you believe in God? Why or why not?

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  • We are all probably just testing out some new type of hyper realistic virtual reality technology or something. Like the matrix but in a shopping mall.

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    • Avant-Garde

      Imagine our shock when we get unplugged.

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  • NurseDiesel

    Oh heavens no but I don't care what other people believe as long as they don't try to shove it down my throat.

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  • Avant-Garde

    Lucien stated it perfectly.

    As far as I am concerned, at humanity's current stage we don't know all of the mysteries of the universe. Therefore, neither side can really say that their way is 100% correct, can they? However, from my findings, science and new age/ancient knowledge seems to be leading us more in that direction then most religion (Christianity) ever has.

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    • biaj

      Just want to point out that back when church and government were intertwined the church made researching many things through science illegal and set back research by about 50-100 years (its one of those i cant remember which) but now a days there are scientific religious people that believe in science heavily bt still believe in a god.

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      • Avant-Garde

        I forgot about that. I think it may have been called "The Inquisition". It is terrible that they were even allowed to do this and especially for so long. Imagine how much more advance humanity could have been had we not have been held back.

        I have met a few Christians, though mostly Jews, who believed in Science and Evolution. With the Christians, some of them have a practice known as "Creationism". It is their answer to what is non-Christian Science. I was unfortunate enough to have to learn it during, I think, sometime in Middle School. None of it made sense to me. It was internally and outwardly difficult to pretend to concur with this "practice" when really I believed in Secular Science.

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  • CreativeThinker

    Yes I do beleive in GOD but not in man defined religion

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  • StrangeDuckDude

    I don't know about God... but I met Jesus last year!
    He was working on the roofing crew fixing the house next door to mine. I overheard his boss saying He wasn't much for turning water into wine... bu he was really good at turning beer into pi$$!
    And then there was the time Jesus stole my hubcaps (or was it Jose?) but that's another story.

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  • MasterOfWaffles

    I meeted him once.

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  • RoseIsabella

    Right on, it's good to know you're out there. ;-)

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  • Karmasbitch

    I an open to the idea of almost anything.

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  • thegypsysailor

    The devolution (yes, it really is a word and the correct one, if you care) of our society has absolutely nothing to do with religious values, and EVERYTHING to do with family values.
    When money became more important to the American family than raising their own children, the devolution of our society was inevitable.

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    • RoseIsabella

      Devo got their name from the word devolution.

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  • wuad2015

    yes ,ido.

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  • Anime7

    I believe that there is a god, yes. However, I don't believe that he/she is directly involved with our lives like some would think.

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  • dom180

    No, I do not. And I won't attach any further comment to that.

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  • Lissisbliss

    Totally!

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  • 123456789assssssss

    I'm not an idiot so no.

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  • green_boogers

    If I want to kill somebody, it's uninteresting. If I want to kill for the glory of God, now it's fun. Religious wars will continue forever because it makes participation more entertaining.

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  • watashikara

    Is it normal to believe in God? Why do you even ask? There are clearly billions of people registered in many religions that believe in one God. This website is so very, very, very limited in its audience demographic. Don't trust the rating too much lol.

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  • genocide_plz

    personally i don't really care if god exists though it would be good if he did coz all the shitty things that happen in "the word of god" and the hypocritical and ridiculous actions he's supposed to have taken(judo-christian god).

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  • biaj

    Yes i believe in god. i dont believe in evolution because there is a hugeeee asss hole in it. evolution is a bunch of animals evolving to help them survive, to adapt to their enviornment in order to survive. WHY IN THE HELL WOULD ANY APE WANT TO EVOLVE INTO A WEAKER, LESS FURRY FORM OF ITSELF? srsly if i could evolve i would grow wings, get night vision, grow sharp nails, hard skin, poison, there are a million things that someone could chose to become stronger but what do humans chose? they chose soft easy to cut skin with no fur so we are exposed to harsh elements and were pretty fuckin stupid from birth on. im aware that it doesnt work like i want a wing bam a wing grows but for apes to evolve into a weaker form of themselves and to stand on two legs so they are slower and easier to kill makes no sense

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    • biaj

      also, just because one of these is true doesnt mean that others are false.

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  • Riddler

    I am very doubtful. I will not say one does not exist though because there is a chance he might be. I would rather not pretend I know everything and state things I am unsure of as fact. God may or may not exist. If you have a reason as to why you believe so than you have an argument. I personally don't care if he exists or not. It doesn't change that people should respect each others differences and cultural beliefs.

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  • q25t

    No. I've never seen nor heard of any conclusive evidence for any god or gods and so I can't believe in them. Moreover, all the gods I have come across have characteristics and histories that are so human it's no longer a question of real or not; they were made by men.

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    • RegGuy

      Have you ever heard conclusive evidence for the proof of evolution? When Bill Nye was asked about the Big Bang, he said it is "one of the mysteries of the universe". AKA scientists have no clue how the Big Bang is possible, so they invent new theories and laws to try to justify their pre-determined conclusions. That's pretty poor science. And you are right, there are many man-made religions out there. The only one that is historically accurate is Christanity. It is a message of hope and peace, and that is why everyone is specially hostile towards it. Nobody screams about the Buddhists or worshippers of voodoo, but they all scream and try to defame Christianity. It's because they fear it and are threatened by it. BTW sorry about the long post, just letting off a little steam. Nothing personal. :)

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      • q25t

        Conclusive proof for evolution? Yes, yes I have. From the fairly simple to follow order of complexity that fossils show up in the ground to the genetic records of all life to various genetic markers that make it pretty obvious we all originate from the same starting point.

        Scientists have no clue how the Big Bang works? That's not even remotely true. We know many of the details on exactly how the first microseconds of the universe played out all the way until the planets came and took shape. If you had said that they don't know where it comes from, you'd only be mildly correct. There are ideas on the subject, even some positing a universe springing forth from nothingness. However, the real reason we can't figure this out is very simple. Time itself is a product of this universe and so observing or trying to measure things outside or before the universe tends to be an issue.

        "justify their pre-determined conclusions"

        I'm sorry but I can't help but laugh at the irony of this statement. A Christian who apparently holds to the biblical account of creation accusing others of working data to fit pre-determined conclusions? You apparently don't understand how academia in general works. There may be scientists who hold to outdated ideas and jump to incorrect conclusions, but there are quite obvious safeguards against this - other scientists. These other scientists go and look at what any misguided scientist says or does, compares their notes with reality, and either approves or denies that scientist's claims. It's the very reason why science is so robust a subject, and we are able to have half the luxuries we do today.

        "The only one that is historically accurate is Christanity"

        Not quite. Have you read the four gospels side-by-side? If you can explain to me how four contradictory accounts can lead you to the conclusion that all of them are accurate, I'll be shocked.

        "It is a message of hope and peace, and that is why everyone is specially hostile towards it"

        That logic doesn't follow at all and both the ideas included are wrong. It is a message of entirely mixed ideas; on one hand Jesus says to love everyone and on the other he says anyone who doesn't follow him will burn for all eternity. How nice of him. As for the idea that Christianity is especially persecuted, that would simply be a problem of perspective. When you are a Christian, you tend to pay a great deal of attention to criticisms leveled at Christians while others getting the same treatment tend to be looked over. It's not really your fault though; it's simply human nature. For your information, I find Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, (the religious sects of) Buddhism, and all the other religions just as false and ill-advised as I do Christianity. Christians just happen to often be the ones I interact with as most of the English speaking world is Christian.

        "Nobody screams about the Buddhists or worshippers of voodoo"

        There's a really simple reason you don't hear about Buddhists or other minority religions being "persecuted" for their religion. I have absolutely never seen one try and get laws passed or done anything that would infringe on anyone else's rights. If you notice in Europe right now there were several Islamic groups calling for Sharia law in certain places. They faced the exact same (or more severe) backlash that Christians do when they try to inforce ridiculous laws on the general populace.

        "BTW sorry about the long post, just letting off a little steam"

        I don't think you need to be apologizing about length of post. I've got that one covered.

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        • RegGuy

          1. Science cannot "prove" anything.
          2. "Pretty obvious". From your point of view anyway. That is a week's discussion in and of itself. Read up on Dr. Gish and his debates with evolutionary scientists. It is not as cut and dry as it may seem to someone who is simply accepting what he has always heard.
          3. Scientists "know" many details about the Big Bang. Stop. After 13 billion years, how can they know? They can THEORIZE about it, nothing more.
          4. The Big Bang goes against against observational science. Can a universe just suddenly appear, out of the blue? Where is the science to say that something can come from nothing? That idea is completely bunk and bogus, sorry. Plus, the law of entropy defies the Big Bang. Order does not come from chaos, ever. How many times has a hurricane or TNT gone through a junkyard and left behind a 747? Never, and we can safely say that it never will.
          5. The 4 gospels do not contradict each other, they are simply 4 different points of view on the same events. Some include things that others don't, true. That's because not all of the disciples were present to witness every event that took place.
          6. Ummm, God blesses everyone in this life. He shows his goodness to both believers and unbelievers, through His provision of an Earth for us to live on, food to eat, etc., etc. If you diss God while He's blessing you in this life, then yes, God will punish you in the afterlife. God can't be righteous and good if He doesn't punish evil.
          7. You do know that women can't drive in Saudi Arabia because the religious law says that they are inferior? And that you can't kill a cow or eat beef in India for the same reasons? Christianity is actually one of the least impositional of any religion.

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          • q25t

            "as it may seem to someone who is simply accepting what he has always heard"

            I've watched dozens of debates on the subject. Simply accepting isn't accurate. I've never seen nor heard a single argument presented by a creationist that in any way was at all convincing. As for Dr. Gish, every one of his points is easily refuted given enough time. He just throws out so many wrong ideas in such a short amount of time that it's impossible to cover every one of them.

            "Can a universe just suddenly appear, out of the blue?"

            Considering the fact that our universe seemingly has a net energy of zero, it does seem quite possible. I will grant that it does seem unlikely that another universe will suddenly sprout within this one.

            "Plus, the law of entropy defies the Big Bang"

            Trying to use laws that are a function of this universe to disprove things that happened before it isn't effective. Also, I have no idea what you're talking about or why entropy is somehow involved in this. I assume you mean the second law of thermodynamics but that isn't contradicted. So far as we can tell, the universe started in a tiny little ball that suddenly expanded, eventually coalesced into matter, which gravity pulled into groups, various nuclear reactions occurred generating the heavier elements, some of these groups of matter (stars) exploded, planets finally formed, geological events occurred to shape the earth into a life bearing planet, abiogenesis happened, life evolved using the sun or occasionally chemicals as its energy source, and eventually we came along.

            "Order does not come from chaos, ever"

            The sun.

            "How many times has a hurricane or TNT gone through a junkyard and left behind a 747? Never, and we can safely say that it never will."

            That's true. It's a very nice sound byte. It also doesn't really say much of anything. I'm assuming this is criticism of abiogenesis and so I'll address that as well. I won't pretend to fully understand the intricacies of the system that scientists seem to agree led to life, but I do know some of the basics. Apparently when life formed, the oceans were teeming with amino acids and various lipid compounds. The fact is, this is about all the very first cell would have really even had. Self-replication is the only real requirement for this first form of life. For a more apt metaphor it would be more accurate to ask how many times has a hurricane or TNT gone through every junkyard in the world that are all filled with 747 parts and happened to result in something that can function? The fact is that life could have developed many different ways as biochemists are always trying to come up with and so the chances increase further. Add to this the absolutely mind-boggling time scale we are working with here and life does not seem to absurd a notion.

            "The 4 gospels do not contradict each other, they are simply 4 different points of view on the same events."

            There are quite obvious factual discrepancies between the gospels. Where was Jesus born? Who found his tomb empty? Here's a chart showing the accounts of the resurrection side-by-side.

            http://www.religionfacts.com/christianity/charts/resurrection_accounts.htm

            "That's because not all of the disciples were present to witness every event that took place"

            Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are the names of the Gospels, not the authors themselves. This is accepted even by Christians.

            "Ummm, God blesses everyone in this life"

            ...Tell that to the African children starving to death that never even have heard of your God.
            "If you diss God while He's blessing you in this life, then yes, God will punish you in the afterlife"

            I am quite glad we don't judge criminals based on your God's rules then. For the crime of not believing, the punishment is eternal torture. Does that not seem slightly insane? A just god would deliver punishments that fit the crime, not punishments that no crime could ever justify. I wouldn't even say Hitler or Stalin did enough to justify eternal torture.

            "Christianity is actually one of the least impositional of any religion."

            Just because you're not getting your way doesn't mean that you're not imposing.

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          • q25t

            1-4 I see you're a follower of Ken Ham.

            Let me explain how science actually works in finding things out about the world, because many people seem to think it a lot more exotic than it really is. Scientists work by making observations about the natural world and then positing explanations of mechanisms that caused what they observed. They now have a hypothesis.

            Next, they attempt to formulate an experiment to test their hypothesis and collect data. They then compare their data to what would be expected given their hypothesis and either accept or reject their hypothesis. Pretty basic stuff.

            So how does this allow us to learn things about the past or about things we cannot directly observe? We simply use the information and collection of accepted hypotheses that support our currently supported theories and look backwards through time. Let's take gravity for example. We know via quite extensive testing that most places on Earth have a gravitational force of approximately 9.81 m/s^2. We also know that this force varies depending on various circumstances such as altitude and marginally air density. This lead to the development of equations that could accurately predict the gravitational force as a function of time, distance between objects, and their masses.

            These equations, when coupled with the findings that the galaxies all are moving away from each other from a central point, then allowed physicists to actually calculate an age of the universe since all matter seems to have been focused on one point. This calculation has since been modified to account for the presence of dark energy which is speeding up the galaxies.

            In short, our observations today are what allow us to infer what happened yesterday. We're hurtling through space at a million miles an hour? Something must have set us in motion. It's really quite simple.

            If you want to get into the particulars of what happened in those first few moments, I would suggest either talking to a physicist or simply reading up on the subject. I'm not nearly knowledgeable enough to try to explain the subject. Particle physics is not quite my forte.

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      • disthing

        Read up about discrimination against religion globally, including against Buddhists and practitioners of African folk religions. People have been persecuted for their religious beliefs since long before Christianity even existed, and non-Christian religions continue to be attacked.

        Seriously, if you think Christianity is somehow uniquely 'defamed' and that is due to its "message of hope and peace" you are way off the mark. It also isn't "the only one that is historically accurate" - I would suggest learning more about other religions, as well as the historical accuracy of your own.

        I agree with you about The Big Bang Theory to some extent - it is just a theory. One plausible idea supported by our current understanding of physics, but not something proven. We may never be able to prove how the universe came into being.

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  • Tommythecat.

    I'm agnostic.

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  • GiveMeAFuckingNameAlready!

    Im in the religion of "I don't know". I have never spoken to a god I don't know if any exist. Science has proven that many species do in fact evolve over time but are men descended from neanderthals. I wasn't there I don't know.

    What I do know Is I find religious radicals to be just as much of an annoyance then those who would disprove them. Bottom line it's best to keep your opinions to yourself and let people believe what they want to believe.

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