Do you think partners should help pay for birth control pills?
Curious on your opinions as to whether women should purchase their own birth control or if their partner should chip in.
| Yes | 25 | |
| No | 5 | |
| Unsure/Other | 4 |
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JellyBeanBandit
Yeah I think that's fair since they're as much for the guy as for the girl. It's not like the guy wouldn't care if the girl got pregnant.
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RoseIsabella
... but they always want to have sex without a condom, and oftentimes if the girl gets pregnant the guy doesn't want to assume any responsibility. I think men who want to have sex without condoms when they aren't married are disgustingly selfish. A woman taking a pill to fuck up her hormones is so incredibly invasive compared to a guy just wearing a condom.
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RoyyRogers
I never understood this. Why are men so insistant on not using protection but also dont want kids. The logic makes no sense. You think theyd put two and two together.
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RoseIsabella
It's because they are selfish, lazy, self serving bastards. If he doesn't want to wear a condom, and he isn't married to me he doesn't deserve my love, and affection.
... and they feel their fleeting, and momentary pleasure is more important than the health, and welfare of women, and children.
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megadriver
I don't mind paying for birth control pills for a woman I trust. Sex is better without a condom anyway.
My wife and I share money, so it doesn't matter who buys them.
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RoseIsabella
If it's a one night stand, or a fuck buddy the guy SHOULD BE USING A CONDOM!!!
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olderdude-xx
I will gladly pay for a ladies birth control if she wants me to or would appreciate it (I have done this; but, not for every romantic relationship as some ladies wish to take care of that themselves).
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RoseIsabella
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olderdude-xx
My partners in life and I have used most everything except the modern hormone patches or implants (which is now most often used by some younger woman).
I believe that the consensus among the woman who tried it was that the IUD was best.
Please note that I only do long term relationships with strings, its often a month or more before we get to any kind of penetration contact, and we do full STD testing prior to insure a high confidence of no STD's.
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hauntedbysandwiches
Partnership is shared money anyway but definitely chip in because it's for them too as they're partners
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bigbudchonger
All other things being equal I say no because men eat a lot more than women but getting women to subsidise that just seems low and grasping.
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RoseIsabella
Yes, but women who cook food for men subsidize it by means of their labor when they cook!
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olderdude-xx
What kind of sharing relationship do you think is "equal" with an attitude like that.
I cook for my wife far far more often than she cooks for me.
But, she does laundry far far more often than I do.
Not to mention any of 2 dozen of other routine household tasks where one does a task most often.
It's about finding an overall balance in responsibilities as different people have different skills or comfort levels with different tasks. Not in every party doing every task equally. Much less feeling that one is subsidizing the other in a task that they do most of.
I cannot imagine a successful meaningful relationship based on your concept as stated.
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RoseIsabella
I see what you're saying, but it's like it seems like way too much trouble, and bother for me to tell you the truth. I used to want a romantic, loving, committed relationship. Even though we do disagree on some things, I like to think that we share a certain degree of mutual respect for each other, so I'm trying to be polite here.
This is deeply embarrassing, and shameful for me to say, but maybe I have, and still am losing any real desire for that romantic, happily ever after stuff. I kinda feel like a broken record, and that I repeat myself too much, but it's like that abusive relationship that I left back in the fall of 2017 really broke me mentally, emotionally, and spiritually. I can't imagine trusting another person enough to be sufficiently vulnerable to give someone my all, because in my heart of hearts I cannot begin to see another person giving me their all, really loving me for myself and being truly trustworthy. I've certainly had my share of relationships throughout my adult life, after that last one almost five years ago I'd probably trust a rattlesnake, or a mountain lion more than some guy. My ex used to primarily abuse me verbally, and emotionally screaming in my face til I started to dissociate sometimes. The last time was the day that I walked away from him when he grabbed me, and dragged back to the house like I was an animal or something, as soon as he let go me I ran, locked myself in a camper on the property and called 911. For the life of me I can't understand people who stay in abusive relationships where they are beat down all the time. The only reason I didn't leave sooner was because I, was enrolled in classes at a junior college. When I first met this crazy person he seemed almost perfect, and he even told me that his ex-wife used to beat him, so it was like this person psychologically disarmed me from the get go. Now in retrospect after studying a lot about narcissists, and narcissistic abuse I think I missed many, many red flags. With the help of good therapists, and a lot of study I'm pretty sure that person was just telling me a lot of lies about himself, but the mask always slips so you can see the real person underneath all the charm, love bombing, gaslighting and bald faced lies. Now in my head I have a very hard time understanding how people can be so open, and trusting of human beings. One of the creepiest things for me was when I started to see how much this guy was like my mother.
... anyway, that enough of that talk, sorry about my rant, but I guess that is part of why I am they way I am. It does boggle my mind though that I had had plenty of relationships throughout my life, and never had any sort of experience like this one I have explained to you. For life of me I can't understand people who go from abusive relationship to abusive over, and over. What I have become is just more like someone who is trying to go her own way, and opt about of the whole game that society expects people to play. Society oftentimes treats people who choose to be single like they are defective, or crazy, because who wouldn't want to be like everyone else if given the chance.
I could probably choose to abstain from commenting on certain posts, but I feel it necessary to put my voice out there, because I know there are other people, just like me out there who are victims/survivors who are too depressed, shy, or introverted to speak their peace.
Okay, I guess that's my long winded response, I think I have ran out of gas for now.
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olderdude-xx
It's OK to put your voice and viewpoints out there... Just expect some push-back on some of them.
I'm sorry that you have suffered from an abusive relationship - and I understand the situation well.
With time, and the right person, you can learn to trust again... and perhaps even pursue romance again.
I know you have read of my 40+ female freind. She was also in an abusive relationship and many parts of her are obviously damaged. I may be the only person in her life that she trusts other than her sister.
When we visit I spend time hugging and cuddling with her (my wife knows that) - because that is what she needs to start healing. It has helped her a lot. I foresee the day when she will be able to do more... but that is likely at least a few years down the road. I'd like to see her vibrant again with other male friends (including romance).
We have never met; but, I'd like to hear from you someday that you have become vibrant again; and perhaps even found romance again.
If you ever get my way... I'll give you a hug if you will allow it...
Best wishes...
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RoseIsabella
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kikilizzo
Depends.
If she's taking birth control for the sake of the relationship then yes, it could be nice. If it's for other reasons such as controlling her period and she was on the pill prior to the relationship starting, then no.Comment Hidden ( show ) -
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RoseIsabella
Funny thing about birth control is that when I was 21 years old my medical doctor gave me birth control pills, and I used them, but never told my boyfriend, because I didn't want him to not use condoms. 😎👍🏻 I only stopped using the pill after two months, because it was making me gain weight, and I heard it could affect my mood.
I like sex better with condoms anyway! 🤠👍🏻
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Clunk42
No one should be paying for any birth control, since no one should be obtaining any birth control.
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RoseIsabella
I see what you're saying, and I know where you're coming from, but women can use the pill if they want to use it.
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Clunk42
They can, just as anyone can do anything terrible, but the question is about whether or not they should.
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RoseIsabella
Yes, but God gives each, and every one of us freewill so we can choose for ourselves. I actually think sex without a condom is overrated, and gross if one is not married, and actually trying to have children.
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Clunk42
If one is having sex with someone they are not married to, they are committing either simple fornication, seduction, rape, adultery, or incest. If one partakes in any of those acts with a condom, it becomes not -only- whichever sin above that applies, but also the -far- (the emphasis is not hyperbole) more heinous sin by the name of "unnatural vice". If they're going to sin, it is best they sin as little as possible.
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olderdude-xx
I believe that you have a major misinterpretation of the biblical writings. Sex with someone not your wife was commonly accepted as legal in many cases in the bible.
Male sex with multiple woman not their wife is openly legal in the biblical writings.
The actual limitations that I recall is that:
1) A person should not be "promiscuous" (have had a multitude of sexual partners in short order).
2) A priest could only marry a virgin bride.
2) You should not have sex with biological siblings, parents/children, grandparents/grandchildren, both a mother/daughter(dad/son) pair, Sister/brother in law (with an exception if your brother dies childless - where as a family property rights exception exist for ensuring that your sister in law has a child to inherit), two sisters/or two brothers, 1st cousins, and perhaps a few other situations.
It says nothing about it being improper at least for males to have sex with other ladies outside of those groupings (and if fact authorizes sex with female slaves that you either own or your family provides for you).
If you read both some of the oldest books of the Old Testament, and some of the books of the Bible that were removed from the 2nd edition of the King James bible (they were in the 1st version) you will know that there are a number of cases where wives had sex outside of marriage without any punishment (and was in at least one case considered a hero for it).
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RoseIsabella
I don't hate you, but the things you said have caused me to feel great hatred my heart.
UNNATURAL VICE IS NOT A GREATER SIN THAN RAPE!!!
I will never believe that birth control is a greater sin than rape, and if that were the way God truly saw it I would cease to believe in him, and never worship him again... but I don't believe God is so shitty, and awful.
Rape should be universally punishable by death!
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RoseIsabella
I respectful disagree with you, because not everyone wants to reproduce! I've only had sex without a condom a few times in my life, and I don't really think sex with a condom is an unnatural vice. I also think sex without a condom is really overrated, and kinda gross.
I don't think unnatural vice is worse than rape! I think that rapists ought to have their private parts completely amputated from their bodies, and maybe fed to some wild animal. I personally think that rape can be worse than murder!
UNNATURAL VICE AS YOU CALL IT IS NOT WORSE THAT RAPE!!!
Do you know what is good, cutting off a rapist's testicles & penis, forcing said rapist's severed private parts in his mouth, and then duct taping his mouth, and nostrils shut so that piece of shit rapist can choke, and suffocate on his shitty parts to death. I think it's okay for people use vigilante justice against rapists, and child molesters... and all the while I would look the rapist directly in his beady, little eyes while he bleeds, chokes and suffocates death would tell him what a piece of crap he is, and that he never deserved any love, or affection in his life, and his mother should have aborted him. I would tell the rapist that when he dies he will go directly to Hell to meet his maker so that the Devil himself can rape him in his ass, torture him, eat him, and shit him out every day for all eternity. Rapists, and child molesters deserve to suffer unspeakably for their sins! If I had the chance I would gladly encourage a rapist, or child molester to kill himself, because I want him to lose his wretched soul, and suffer for all Eternity! The suffering of those who commit rape is a glorious thing that should be celebrated.
Do you realize that right now as I write this Russian soldiers are probably committing heinous atrocities against Ukrainian civilians, and part of that is rape. If I could snap my fingers, and cause every living rapist on the planet to die a slow, violent and painful death I would. I think it should be legal to hunt down and kill rapists for sport!
I'm pro-life for the most part, but if a rapist impregnates his victim I think he should be slowly tortured to death.
I don't think it's so unnatural to not want to be impregnated, especially if one were to be impregnated by a rapist. Sperm in, and of itself is not special, and I certainly don't believe that bullshit some Christian people say about every sperm is sacred. To me I have always seen sperm as garbage, and no better than shit. Not everyone wants to be open to having children! I think if people want to be together, and even get married, but they don't want to have children that it is their business, and only their private business. Not everyone wants to have children!
Children are better off with married couples so if people want to have sex outside of marriage, because they do it anyway regardless of what you think then they should not be irresponsible, and bring children that they cannot care for into the world!
I don't really care that much about sex myself, but honestly if there were no such thing as birth control I probably wouldn't have ever wanted to have sex in my life, at least not sexual intercourse, because I wouldn't want to every risk getting pregnant when I didn't want the inconvenience of pregnancy, the pain of childbirth, or the responsibility of raising another person.
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