Ethics of taking a life

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This is more about apathy, vioIence and kiIIing in general rather than about pushing an anti-police narrative.

Been watching “Police Activity” on YouTube, and the disturbing trend is that cops will fire and kiII for no real reason. See the linked, most recent video and there are countless examples of the exact same thing happening.
https://youtu.be/B2vXnDtwaAk

They’ve been boxed in. Unarmed. You can hit the tires and they’ll be caught eventually. The harm to society from robbery is pretty much negligible. So why would the average person, in the cops’ position, fire like that?

And why should I take life so seriously when it is clear that others do not. Let me hear your thoughts. Don’t expect me to be polite if your opinion is retarded.

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  • 1WeirdGuy
    1 year ago

    I dont think the lives of criminals are more important than the life of those police. I think the police should get in trouble for that shooting but not fired because it was abit sus. I'm not glad the criminals got smoked but they were asking for it and the world is simply a better place without those guys. Hopefully some young criminals will see that next time they decide to rob a store and then ram police cars. I'm tired of criminals and if I could shoot someone in the back for robbing my store I probably would.

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    • Gambler
      1 year ago

      Insurance covers everything.

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  • howaminotmyself
    1 year ago

    I am not familiar with the show, nor do I really want to be. But I did find one question in all of that to be intriguing.

    "And why should I take life so seriously when it is clear that others do not?"

    Why do other people need to take life seriously for you to take it seriously? This sounds like a perception issue. Maybe don't watch these sensational shows that only focus on the ugly and hard.

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    • Gambler
      1 year ago

      I meant the lives of other people as well as “life” as dictated by others, i.e. rules, obligations, social efficacy, etc.

      Not my own life.

      Say there were someone whom I had little respect for, just personally. Why should I refrain from stealing or hurting them if there were no consequence? They would do the same to me.

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  • RoseIsabella
    1 year ago

    Thieves obviously don't take their lives seriously enough, otherwise they wouldn't be thieving. Didn't they used to hang pickpockets? Honestly, I don't really care that much about people who steal, because they have freewill, and can choose not to steal. I have never been a thief so I cannot, will not and have no desire to empathize, or sympathize with thieves. If every person who was an armed robber just suddenly disappeared the world would be a better place!

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  • LloydAsher
    1 year ago

    I see nothing ethically wrong with killing someone over property. Especially if it's your property.

    The police mostly protect the public as a public servant. Which is good, so I dont bust their balls unless they go beyond a reasonable persons classification of force usage.

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    • ospry
      1 year ago

      I saw a video of a cop shooting a teenaged kid multiple times for backing up in his car away from the cop when asked to roll down his window. Bullets tore through a lung, his liver, and his stomach. The kid was an athlete and while he's expected to live, his life is ruined. The cop didn't even get a slap on the wrist

      Cops don't respect or value life. Fuck your bootlicking

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    • Gambler
      1 year ago

      That’s what the general consensus is, but it doesn’t make sense at all.

      The only property they’ve taken are perfumes which the sunken costs will come from the corporate business and their insurance.

      The wages of the police, who per individual, honestly do little to nothing, are more of a burden to society than these petty thieves ever could be.

      The suspects would have been caught had they just shot the tires, or let them go and continue the chase.

      What happened was nothing short of fucking retarded. Just one group of morons peer pressured into doing something stupid, and another group of morons peer pressured into doing something stupid (shooting). I cannot wrap my head around how the general public sees this as a good thing, without losing respect for everybody.

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      • LloydAsher
        1 year ago

        If you dont steal shit you wont run the risk of being shot at. It's the nature of control here. Cops are just the designated full time shooty people. When normal people do its given greater weight to the action.

        Being American is part of how the logic works out, everyone is potentially dangerous here. That's the double edge of freedom, everyone is unbelievably dangerous and you got to police them within authority. I can see how other countries find it weird. Lethal force can be applied to pretty much every use of force. But police try desculating. But if you pull out a hammer or knife they are within their free range to shoot you since they have to remain in control of their weapon. Even if it's a small chance a hammer will win vs a knife. No one wants to get stabbed.

        In a good portion of states just walking beyond the sign of "no trespassing" is justifiable reason to shoot a guy.

        In america your property is tied directly into your own personal life. So defending your property is tied in for life. Cops have been deploying GPS buoys on vehicles to track them down to their residences. But the problem with alowing criminals go, is that you can turn a criminal in the relative open into a barricaded criminal (with a hostsge) very quickly which is objectively so much worse to be on the offensive for.

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        • Gambler
          1 year ago

          I get what you mean but that’s assuming the cops were in fear of their safety, which isn’t the case here or most of the time. They just blast away.

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          • LloydAsher
            1 year ago

            It's really hard to pin down "fearing for your life or others" as a statement of fact. The vagueness of that point is why so many unarmed people get shot. That's why I prescribe not do make any sudden movements because there has been cops that got shot because someone wild west quick drew and killed cops. And if I was a guy making only 40k I wouldnt want to be taking chances like that.

            And by blast away do you mean mag dump? It's not guaranteed that a single shot to the torso with a 9mm is going to drop a man. If you have to shoot a guy, you shoot until hes not a threat, and by that, pretty much kill him.

            Shooting to wound is a legal liability. As it would mean you were using deadly force as an in between that's not even guaranteed to be non lethal. You got a lot of veins and shit. Get shot in the leg and you could easily bleed to death.

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            • Gambler
              1 year ago

              We have a misunderstanding. You are defending the police force, but I’m not making any argument against the police force.

              My post is saying that this specific scenario (and other shootings that pan out similarly) are utterly absurd, and proves that the average person has little to no respect for human life—and I’m asking if anyone can challenge that.

              I see what you’re saying that everyone is potentially dangerous, even shoplifters, but it really wouldn’t apply in the video I provided because they only shoot when the car tries to drive off. The idea that these petty thieves are going to take hostages or barricade themselves is unlikely and absurd as well. Again, they could have just shot the tires.

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