Evolution and homosexuality

sorry guys but....
does it really matter how or why there are gay people?

It's as relevent as dick size or boob size.....
green eyes or blue, it's difference we should all embrace. Like blond or red hair.

I can see no reason for the debate at all.
We are all human beings and we should all try to get along and that means accepting our diferences and cellebrating that we are all not the same.

Diversity is the key to an interesting world.

As far as nature and overpopulation is concerned. It's the biggest problem facing mankind. Bigger that global warming or peak oil.

Thank god for the non breaders be they straight, gay, trans gender or democrat!

I don't think it as anything to with evolution, however, I also don't believe it has anything to do with a person's childhood. It's simply preference.

I don't like curry. It's not due to evolution. It's not due to my genes. It's not due to how I was brought up. I just don't like it.

I like sausages. It's not due to evolution. It's not due to my genes. It's not due to how I was brought up. I just like them.

If someone is attracted to their own gender, rather than the opposite, it doesn't mean they're wrong, evil, stupid, or deluded. They just bloody do.

So did you choose to be heterosexual? I think youll find the answer is a resounding NO because you were born that way!!
Trying to argue that gay people somehow chose their sexuality is pointless anyway. I mean what do you expect to achieve? Do you hope that if they chose it that you will somehow be able to force them to choose otherwise? Its a ridiculous notion. Whether its chosen or not is noones business. NEWS FLASH-We arent living in the dark ages and sex between two consenting adults is 100% legal.
I just cant understand why certain segments of the community try to force everyone to conform. Its really very stupid behaviour.
Homosexuality may not be a choice but narrowmindedness and bigotry certainly is.

Look at the animal kingdom. Many animals are homosexual, bisexual, polysexual, pansexual, even hermaprodite and transexual.
Nature is diverse.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals

http://www.news-medical.net/news/2006/10/23/20718.aspx

http://conservationreport.com/2008/02/11/nature-and-sex-transexual-and-transgendered-are-natural/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermaphrodite

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_Reports

Australian scientists lead the world in gene research and have a difference somewhere in the brain of gay men and their brain is closely related to a womans brain. It may not be evolution as you sat I dont know but if I was to put it down to anything I think the chemicals we are ingesting in food and from our environment are changing us in ways weve yet to fully see or understand. So as well as evolution and nurture you might also want to take that into account

yes.

it piss's me off as well, being a science student at university, they say it is nature that they are homosexual but in actual fact it is more likely nurture.

and your comments on a gay gene are correct that it would not be passed on so it would not exist, but it may be passed on from parent to child through behavioural traits observed and copied.

I like doing gay stuff. I fuck men and boys in their bums and enjoy a blowjob. Giving a cut cock a blow is nice too.

One of my friends is gay and so is his biological mom.

You are a man of science but people do not like when you discuss such thing. I do not think you can be gay from birth either. You cant be straight from birth either. I believe sexuality is developed from eviorment, how you grow up as a child, how you are treated as a child, personality traits, and the ends with the release of hormones during puberty.

Saying "I was born this way" is stating that from the time you come out of the womb you are going to become sexually active. Depending on how you mind develops will develop what you are into sexually. Why along with gay and straight we have all these other sexual developments like kinks, fetishes, and transgender.

This can be proved with other things as well. If a child was given a certain candy by a grandfather figure every time he visits they associate this candy with grandpa. So when the grandfather dies whenever they eat this candy they are going to think grandpa.

This idea can be applied to other things. Like if your a mans girlfriend always wore a certain kind of perform he might get aroused or happy when he smells that scent. Since to him he is just thinking about his girlfriend. To you or me the scent might not mean anything.

This can also be applied to trauma. If lets say every time you punished a child by putting them in a green room they are going to associate green with bad memories. The way you punished them.

So that person is going to feel fear and dread every-time they see green. This could be an explainable cause for fetishes. Fetishes is becoming sexually aroused by an object. Like lets say "feathers" which would not normally be associated with sex but for some reason this person has associated with sexual pleasure. For this reason people who were abused during sexual development have odd sexuality because the trauma effected them during the developmental stages.

I do believe some people are born with a streak though. Some people are naturally more timid, more violent, more calm in nature. I also think this had a key in how they develop as well. I think traits like this are often genetic and while they are not your sexuality may determine your sexuality to a point. I also think ones nature has to do with the way they think and see things. I think most people believe a certain way and you cant really change it. Why not all children turn out like mommy and daddy. Since we all develop our own way of thinking.

In your way of thinking determines your nature this would also explain why sociopaths/psychopaths end up violent. Sociopaths/psychopaths do not feel a lot. So they will go to extremes to actually feel anything. For this reason they are often very intelligent. They unlike normal people do not have judgement which is clouded by emotions since they feel very little.

There is another type of person like this known as an "Adrenaline junky" these are the type of people that go to the extremes and always want a thrill. It takes a lot for people like this to get stimulation where as others might not need very much.

I dont think sexuality is as simple as people attempt to make it and neither is personality. However people are rather stubborn and believe there has to be ONE explanation for everything. Thought really things like this could develop from a number of variables and this is what most people or psychologists do not understand. Things are never that simple and its really annoying that people try to say it is. It just shows ignorance.

Nurture vs nature is not a debate. Just like half full or half empty is not a debate either. If the glass is filled up half way to middle its both half full and half empty. Simply ignoring a different perspective does not mean its false.

Some people have a dark nature and fight it and some people have a lighter nature and go against it. You can go against your nature and this is presented everyday. Vegetarians choose not to eat meat even though we are meant to eat meat and veggies. People choose not to screw everything without PERMISSION because that would be rape.

That is why we have laws against these crimes. We defy our nature everyday and that is what makes you civilized. There is depth to personality. Its not just superman vs bad guy. There is so much more to it than that and too say its necessarily one thing is a very narrow mindset.

If faggots are a mutation, they will die out and not pass on the trend. Pure humanity here we come!

If a child goes thru some experience (sexual most of the time) they're to young and not mature enuff to understand what they've been thru and that leading to confusion. That's why you see sexually abused children being gay and disturbed. Don't blame it on genes and science just cause you might have a friend or relative that's gay or you might be. Deal with it. Evolution doesn't work with it. Don't be stupid ..the answers right in your face, gays can't get prego and never will anybody that thinks evolution will happen with gay people are retarded

@bdasd even if you are not born gay, even if you do turn so because of "hormones" it is still biological, and people have no control over their hormones.

Although there is no confirmation on the so called "gay gene" there is definitely some evidence that genetics might be at work. How about the boys born with a micro-penis that get castrated and get reconstructive surgery and are raised as girl, how come later on in life they find themselves liking women? This I don't think it's done anymore but it certainly says something about sexual orientation being from birth.

Logic and reason: gays and lesbians have the same genes as straight people. We evolved through straight people, being gay isn't proper. Sex is to create, to mate, it's not for fun. A thing below the diaphragm is for inserting at the front. A bottom is for sitting, it's not for insertion. Semen is for making babies, not for dirtying your face or eating. Evolution made us this way, for the insertion to make babies effortlessly from a woman, in which the woman suffers and the man feels no pain. In such an evolution, if done this way, will further the population. On the contrary your thinking that we didn't evolve gay is normal, after all, no one was offered by the government the gay dollar.

I am a surgeon who studied molecular biology for cancer patients. And it is scientifically proven that there are three types of evolution —anatomical, biochemical or behavioural—that is the result of gene–environment interaction. Over population and lack of resources in earth, economical disadvantages, pushed neuro molecular gene suspension to genetic drift, which releases your hated gay-gene in every human. Unfortunately all I can say your statement is pseudoscience not the gay-gene theory. There is a 5 pages article you can find anywhere, but wikipedia about the real science. Because of NARTH kind of neo-nazi political organizations people believes to lies for feeling more comfortable about prejudicing people. The first commandment of Abrahamic religions is not to KILL. Don't you think people who defend wars and murders from sociological perspectives use pseudoscience, my religious boy? Nonsense. You are as normal as adolph hitler.

I like how you seemed satisfied that you prooved your point against evolution and just carried on. I happen to agree with you, I think being gay is a choice. As a lesbian. And I think that when I change as a person and get older, maybe I'll change again. I don't care. But I think it's important people be open to change and accepting whatever comes up.

Being homosexual is a biological malfunction, just as being blind. Is it "normal" to be blind? Well no. There are a lot of blind people, but it doesn't make it "normal", we were intended to be able to see.

Is it "normal" to be gay? No, same thing, we were intended to partner with someone of the opposite gender.

Homosexuality used to be considered a disorder. But due to public pressure, that classification was removed.

i agree that this has nothin to do with evolution. i belive that it has to do with ur emotional feelings and interest

Being gay ISNT a choice if it was id be attracted to girls since i cant stand men. People are gay at birth; deal with it

First: It is possible to pass on such a thing as a "gay gene" as many gay people have had children since the beginning of the human race. How? Simple, many gay men and women entered marriages and relationships with the opposite sex out of force or religious pressure or the desire to have their own family.Many homosexuals over generations have lived their lives in denial of their sexuality and gone on to raise families. Nowadays where you can have artifical incemination and saragotte mothers, ect, it would be very easy to pass on a "gay gene" reccessive,obviously.

2nd: Science has shown that when it comes to pheremones (smell) gay men's brains react the same way chemically as women when it comes to the smell of another man or being sexually aroused. Being gay is a biological reaction, not an enviornmental reaction. An overbearing mother doesn't change the chemical makeup of your brain.

Personally, as gay man, I don't think being gay is a result of evolution, I believe it's a sort of minor mutation. When people hear the word "mutation" they always think it means something negative but it doesn't. We all have small mutations in our genes that go unnoticed all our lives. Being gay isn't weird or bad, it's just different.

It's not evolution it's just a chemical imbalance in the brain, no genes involved

For me I believe that gay people are born that way. If you're heterosexual, did you make that choice?

You don't suddenly decide one day to like men or women, it's already predetermined. I won't pretend that I know shit about science etc. but my brother is gay and I know he didn't choose to be gay because he doesn't want to be gay.

Some idiot will probably say, well he could choose to be straight and yes he could but in essence all that would achieve is causing him a great deal of mental stress by denying that he is attracted to males.

I don't believe it's a disease nor do I think it's a sin or even a disorder. For me, people should just be accepted regardless of race, gender or sexuality.

To conclude, I don't think being gay will end the world but hating on each other and judging needlessly will.

So what you are really saying is that you are an ignorant ugly loser who is pissed because beautiful lesbians like myself and my gorgeous naturally gay girlfriend would never look your direction? Well... You should have just said so.

Why do I not like strawberry ice cream? Why do I hate dogs? Why don't I have a religion? That's just who I am. My likes and dislikes. Some people are gay some people are straight. I wouldn't say it's a "gene" more like personal preference

Okei...I voted normal...but there is a fat gene...what stops there been a gay gene. A gay persons brain is wired differently...so is this enviroment, genes or something else...leave it to the experts and NOT your own opinion...good day sir!

I think in a free society it SHOULDN'T matter whether it is chosen, a psychological nuture effect, or an inborn genetic effect. It's probably a little bit of all three.

Think about it: people of different races should have the same rights because they are still people: that's inborn. people of different religions should have the same rights: that's chosen and/or nuture (parents indoctrinate you).

So--in my mind---in a free nation is doesn't matter. No one is making you like/dislike/approve of gay people: they just deserve equal protection and rights under the law.

Actually, I am not gay but I agree that homosexuality is the evolutionary mechanism that's initiated to save the Earth from overpopulation, wars over limited natural resources, and, ultimately, complete annihilation.

You evidently dont know alot about genetics. There are two forms of gene. Reccesive and dominant. A reccesive gene requires two of the same allele for it to have any effect whereas a dominant gene only requires one. This could explain heredatory homosexuality branding the 'gay gene' as recessive. This way someone could carry one half of the recessive gay gene and the dominant hetrosexual gene. Then if during reproduction if only the reccesive gene is passed on a gay child will arise from a straight couple. I do find this very unlikely however as a gay gene has yet to be isolated. I also agree that people should stop using it as an excuse even though its a direct result of bible bashing hate crouds prosecuting homosexuality. Being gay is perfectly natural. Its been passed on to us by our evelutionary ancestors (e.g. The bonobo: all of them are bisexual and there our closest ancesters). Oh and one last thing. Gay people need to stop demanding special privilages. As do religious activists. Its fucking up the world for everyone else!

Birth order has an effect on a man's chance of being gay. A man with more older brothers is more likely to be gay. Adoptive brothers and stepbrothers have no effect, so it's believed to be caused by changes in the mother's body.

So maybe it's not a "gay gene" in the gay person themselves but a "make gay babies under certain conditions" gene in their mother. Evolution could "justify" gayness if this were the case--if a woman's body will not make more than a certain number of children who are heterosexual and likely to reproduce, this helps prevent overpopulation while still allowing her to propagate her genes through her older children.

There could also be a lot of other things that might make a woman more likely to have a gay baby that we haven't discovered yet.

being gay isnt a lifestyle choice. its something that happens from birth, generally due to hormonal inbalance or the mothers extreme stress while in the womb during brain development. so suck it. it may not be evolutionary but is definitely present before birth.
[we studied this in psychology and mental health]

I'm sorry, what? evolution? overpopulation? i need to look this up. sounds interesting. oh, and if I'm posting thsi here, I'd like to say this is...wait is this a controversy or am i unaware of some overpopulation factor or whatever?

The guy who put this here sounds like someone called him gay, and he's mad about it. i'm assuming the person who called him gay was just telling a story for his own lolz

BTW a question for those who think homosexuality is a product of nurture (and presumably then, that heterosexuality is also). If you hate gays using the genetics arguient ask your self this, when you got your first erection over a girl was it because you had been told that you get erections over girls or that you had seen your dad get one so decided to get one too, or maybe you conciously thought it hard? No I didn't think so. It's important to realise that your ignorance and prejudice means you just stop looking for answers when you find one that makes you happy. In this case you're happy tobelieve that homosexuality is caused by our upbringing becasue then it just gives you another excuse to complain about gay people.

Seems to me that creationism is more of a justification for homosexuality than evolution, because if God creates things perfectly, then a gay gene would have to be perfect by logical extension.

your explanation of genetics is a bit off man, a recessive gene does not have to be displayed by parents, genes work in pairs with 1/2 comming from mother other from the father, being straight could be a domminent gene there for in a pair of genes as long one of the genes are straight then the person will be straight, but to be gay requires two of the gay genes, ie, both the mother and the father pass on the recessive gay gene.

I personally think it more comes from the way people are brought up and nurtured, but, your simplistic explanation of genetics is wrong.

People choose to be fags. I'm a fag I suck cock and I swallow too. Its all bullshit when the fags say they were born gay. They just accept the fact that we choose to be fags. We'll I'm not exactly gay I'm a tranny. But I'm not going to transition to a woman. I like being a shemale. I like my cock. And I like other guys cocks too.

Jesus H. Christ.

First of all, everything neuroiq said is right. I'm heterosexual myself, but I'm very interested in evolution and the nature of homosexuality. I've done loads of internet research and have come to a conclusion.

You're right, there is no gay gene. You know why? Because homosexuality is a hormonal disorder, caused by a fetus being exposed to gender-inappropriate levels of certain hormones while still in its mother.

Brain imaging techniques have shown that brains of homosexual males have feminized areas of brain tissue, one of them being the corpus callossum, which is naturally larger in women. Brain waves of homosexual individuals are different too. Lesbians have brain waves somewhere between men and women, and gay men have hypermasculinized brain waves. One of the most striking things I read was in this article of science daily (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/11/071107170741.htm) where it says:

"The researchers also undertook a correlational analysis which included size of the corpus callosum, and test scores scores on language, visual spatial and finger dexterity tests. "By using all these variables, we were able to predict sexual orientation in 95 per cent of the cases," she said."

To put things into perspective, such a condition can be compared to say, congenital infertility. Saying that since evolution disfavors homosexuality, it must be nurture or choice, is like saying that to the hundreds of individuals that are born infertile each year. It's not evolution. It's not nurture. Nobody chooses it. Conditions like these are just oopsies that happened along the way.

youre fucking ignorant.that is all.

Why do you guys even care if it's evolution or not? Seriously. Also, there's loads of gay animals. I'm not going to say they evolved to prevent overpopulation. They didn't. Being gay is just natural. It's everywhere. And who gives a shit? Nobody is making you be gay.

And being gay can be effected by your upbringing, this is true, but it also can be a range of biological things. Like, in the womb, sometimes the child has lower or higher estrogen levels. If a mother has had a few boys, the likeliness of her next son being gay, goes up exponentially. It's just how it is.

You should do some real research before you go around getting angry about something that doesn't matter.

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can't be bothered to read the rest of whatever you wrote.

I'll keep my answer short and absolutely sweet.

Epigenetics.

Look it up. It'll all make sense to you once you've fed that into the ol' google.

Personally though, I couldn't give a flying fuck as to whether it's in the genes or not. I'm a queer shit and that's all there is to it.

If it is a product of environment then maybe you should move someplace with better looking females around.

EVOLUTION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT

GAY PEOPLE

HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR 100S OF YEARS, IT IS ONLY

NOW THAT SOCIETY HAS (PARCIALLY) ACCEPTED IT.

ON OPRAH, (I NO CHEEZY) A MAN WAS A PRINCE IN INDIA AND HIS WHOLE LIFE HE WAS SECRETLY ATRACTED TO MEN. HE KNEW HIS FAMILY WOULD SHUN HIM BUT NO MATTER HOW HARD HE TRIED THERE WAS NO ATTRACTION TOWARDS WOMEN.THERE ARE MANY CASES LIKE THESE. THEY TRY TO HIDE IT AND STILL FEEL THE ATTRACTION,

SOME PEOPLE ARE SO AHAMED THAT THEY COMMIT

SUICIDE.

BUT THERE ARE ALSO MEN WHO JUST FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH A MAN WICH IS WRONG.

its the diet colas and videogames everybody knows that

Evolution also caused autism, down syndrome and a lot of other diseases, so sure it could have caused homosexuality.

Pregnant women are also checked if their baby has down syndrome and the Dr. will counsel them about it they want to terminate the pregnancy.
I wonder if the same will happen if we can get the DNA markers for homoism?

Prove Evolution, and I'll read the rest of it.

Just because a person is gay doesn't mean they can't or won't reproduce. I am living proof of this.
In the past, and still frequently today, gay people have been pressured into heterosexual relationships by the culture around them. Most of these involve sex, and very often children.
Nowadays gay couples who don't need to hide in heterosexual relationships can have children via artificial insemination or surrogacy.
This is not in anyway meant to imply that children of homosexuals will turn out to be homosexuals (again, I am living proof of this :P) As we all know, heterosexuals don't always produce heterosexuals.
Also (this is turning out to be a lengthy comment,) I believe in theory the genetic nature sexual orientation is more complex than say, the genetic nature of eye color.
I think the science behind sexual orientation is very interesting, and one doesn't need to bring politics or prejudice into the conversation.

I'm bisexual and I think it's probably just some chemicals not being released or being released too late before birth. Cause when we're embryo's, early on, we're all girls. So, logically, it's probably just those chemicals that are meant to mold our minds. It's like the chemical mix-up that likes causes hermaphrodites and transexuals though not as extreme.

I read these comments and really didn't even wanna add one because it's one of those things where I don't think anyones gonna reach a real conclusion to anytime soon. All I know is that I'm bisexual, it didn't come out til I was about 20, but I think I knew it all my life and kinda just ignored it til I couldn't anymore. That being said, that whole hormones/chemicals in your brain makes sense to me. Jesus the bigots on this shit, I don't get how people are so ignorant. It's 2009 you assholes and we have a black president now, like finally the world is starting to accept the fact that it's not okay to hate a person for being a different skin color or having a different sexual preference than them. But to the person who said they don't like seeing them in public flaunting it, I get that.

Who ever said Homosexuality is caused by Evolution?

Even if evolution has nothing to do with it, A PERSON CAN STILL BE BORN GAY! wow there are so many idiots...

It's true. All I can say is evolution was made for us to reproduce and create more of us. How on this earth can you reproduce when you are not connecting sperm with egg???Which is the only way.

I think that homosexuality is caused by a mix of hormones or something like that, or a mix up in the part of the brain that causes attraction. But it is definatly not evolution

There is not a gay gene and it's not an evolutionary trait. Homosexuality is caused by a difference of chemicals in the brain.

You're completly normal to believe this. I do. My friend is gay. I don't have a problem with people and there orientation. But, I hate it when gay people blame their sexuality on evolution. Example: Chris Crocker. In one of his videos', he explains that he came out of his mothers womb, "holding his nose", that's why he was gay. That really made me mad. You can not decide your orientation until you reach the age of understandment. I do not have a problem with Chris Crocker, but that I do.
I believe that, what happened in a person's childhood does effect what his/her orientation may be. Such as if a male were raised by females, there is a chance he would be gay. If a female, raised by males, she could be lesbian. As for bisexuals? I don't know.
Do I think you're normal for believing this? Yes. I do.

I don't care for that life choice, but I wouldn't bash a gay or lesbian. I don't believe in evolution or that evolution is the reason they're like that. I believe it is the life style they chose. They were not born to be gay, they chose to be that way. I really don't care what kind of 'research' they've done, I won't change my mind on the subject.

If you were truly curious, you'd go to the library. You just want to spread your anger.

Besides, even if homosexuality WAS a choice or environmental thing, WHY would it matter? It's no more significant than the fact that I chose and was conditioned by my family's veganism to have miso soup for breakfast today!

Right... I think the idea of homosexuality being a generic thing is absolute ridicule. I am a heterosexual female, not romantically attracted to females at all, though I am extremely attracted to feminine boys, and also gay males in a way. This is a bit strange, but I don't care.
Anyway, one's attraction sexuality whatever just happens. Thinking about it, it can't really be nurture/based on teaching and influence, because attraction is something you feel inside... Okay this is hard to explain.

I think its probably nurture. It is a bit weird though how they all have that same raspy-smooth wilting voice & lisp, even ones from totally different cultures. I heard overheard a Japanese exchange student at uni today speaking Japanese in 'that' voice. Wonder whats up with that?

Yes you are, because I do not believe how being gay will continue the human race which is what evolution bases on survival, the ability to continue the population.

I think if you are born gay maybe its a mix up of genes or something because there are chemicals everywhere these days

hehe.
some of these comments are golden. pure entertainment :P

To who wrote the story:
Yeah it pisses me off too. Im bisexual, but i dont go claiming that theres some sort of scientific explanation for why i am. and besides who really gives a f*ck? i dont :P Just am who i am. and those others should think in the same way.
take care ^^

Well...I talked to my professor about this subject in Psychology. No one truely knows why some people are 'gay'. Most theories state that the brain forms this chemical imbalance due to complications from the womb. Other's think its from previous trauma (but this is rare). The sex hormomes flare up when they see the member of the same sex, not the traditional opposite. But there is one thing for sure, they are STILL looking for the 'gay' gene, if it even exists...

tbh, I think one of the most likely explanations from what I've heard is hormones/proteins the baby is exposed to in the mothers womb. Check out
http://discovermagazine.com/2006/sep/gaybrothers
Keeping in mind that some mothers would probably have a stronger immune reaction even without the prescence of older brothers, it seems to be a good explanation.

You raise some interesting points.
It can't be passed down, evaloution doesn't work that way.

Maybe it's just a harmless glitch?

OMG!!!!! What a load of rubbish. I have no idea if there is a gay gene out there or not. I also have no idea how many genes there are but I do know that we have no idea what most of them do! I have been gay as long as I can remember, and I have a very good memory. Perhaps it is developmental, but if so why do so many people not figure out that they are gay until much later in life? There are two types of gays so listen up. There are those who are or rather have been gay all of there lives. Then there are those who are gay by choice. I personaly have had gay cats or perhaps they just picked it up from watching me, what do you think?
The fact is some animals are gay and wether any of you want to believe it or not Humans are just another animal on this big blue pile of dirt. Sience is constantly being proven wrong, case in point no one has fallen of the edge of the earth yet! However sience thinks it knows, and the srink thinks he knows. Oh Mom poked me with a diaper pin when I was six months old so now I don't like girls. Hell who knows?
As for the question of how much it would cost to get a straight man to engage in a little gay sex. The answer is not very much! However many would prefer not to addmit that in a public group. The fact of the matter is if a straight man feels he will not be caught he will try most anything. Some do have back door limits. On the other hand I doubt very much that it would take a hundred grand to breach the security shall we say. Which brings me to the guys who say I only did it because I was drunk. Yeah Right! Fact of the matter is very and I mean very few straight men will turn down a free B.J.! With that said I need to add that is, if he feels he will never be caught. Most of the straight guys I have been with and there have been a few. Feel like some sort of Macho Stud as if it is a huge boost to there man hood that another guy is wanting to service him.

Well is someone going to answer my question?

Well, there are a lot of genetic disorders out there that hasn't been phased out yet. What about dwarfism? Something like 80%% of dwarves are born to two average-sized parents who carried a recessive gene. And many little people are proud of being dwarves and think of themselves as capable of doing anything average sized people can do.

Maybe you can consider homosexuality as a "genetic disorder." It's not supposed to happen but it does, and when it does people are happy with it, they are normal, they function just fine, and they wouldn't change a thing about them.

The Genome project has now mapped out the human boy. As far as Im aware they still havent found the gay chromosome...

What about the guys who do gay porn but claim they are not gay and are only in it for the money?

Im not gay but im bi, and you are right, you choose to like the same sex. or maybe your just naturally attracted to the same sex. the mine is still as mysterious as space or the ocean...

that's weird.

It's true, though some guys will still get a boner from a naked girl, or enjoy sex, even if he has a fetish like that, it's just a lot better than when the fetish is included in the sex.

I think fetishes are some stupid thing some moron made up, sure people tried different things in the bedroom back in the day, but I mean damn some of this shit is getting riduiculous.

I wonder how general fetishes work then. Most people don't choose a fetish, just like people don't choose their sexuality, but some people find something sexually arousing that other people wouldn't want to go near.

LOL. flikr is a metrosexual.

it is possible to have certain inherited traits that are recessive, meaning that even thought they are passed from generation to generation, they are usually "dormant".

for example, many inherited traits, such as hemophilia, might more or less guaranty that the person suffering this condition will not live long enough to have children. but these traits are passed along because most people that have the gene for it, do not actually have the disease or condition.

in a perfect world all men would be gay except me, that would be so awesome!

Well scientist have shown that most gay men do have a part of their brain that is more closely related to a girl's brain than a straight guys one. It was something like if that section is smaller, like a gay or a girl, then you are more attracted to men, but if it's slightly larger, like a straight guys, then your more attracted to girls. Don't get me wrong there I'm not saying gays and girls are less intelligent than straight guys it's just one part of the brain that doesn't involve intelligence and just says who your attracted too. It is very important part of the brain because without it we either wouldn't be attracted to anyone, then our species will probably die out, or everyone will be attracted to everyone, probably reduce our numbers a lot if not wipe us out because many more girls will be with girls and guys will be with guys, and it just happens to be a woman's is slightly smaller, giving them an attraction to men, and a man's is slightly larger, giving them an attraction to women.

How your brought up can also have a large impact on it, just your brain says the chances are that you will be attracted to guys/girls, but a straight guy can become gay and vice-Versa.

For those of you that read up to me saying a girls brain is smaller then decided to skip the rest and reply, pay attention to this. Girls are not stupider than guys they are every bit as intelligent as us, that part of the brain doesn't make you smarter or dumber it just controls your sexuality.

I've heard a lot of theories like gay people are missing something in their brain that would usually make them attracted to the opposite sex. I have also heard things like there are "gay" animals like those two "gay" penguins in san francisco, but I don't believe animals have a sexual identity. Animal behavior is no indication of how the human species should behave.

I have heard of boys as young as 9 telling people they think something is wrong with them because they like boys. Some men were sexually molested as a child and as a result they "choose" to be gay. I do believe in God, but even I don't know what to believe when it comes to homosexuality. I was taught in church it was wrong, but obviously gay people are different, and there has to be some kind of scientific explanation for it, unless it really is just people choosing to be sexual deviants.

It is a mental disorder, a mutation of the brain or of hormone production. Just because it is socially acceptable today does not mean it is natural.

i hate gays plain and simple if i saw a man kissing another man i'd hit him
i cant f*cking stand how there so accepted these days they get away with flaunting it in our faces all the time but if we do anything its discrimination
so i get my own back by knocking the dirty puff out

you arent born gay damnit!!!!!
u turn that way becuz of certain hormones
the bible ses a man shall not lay with another man(not exact words)
so if god makes all babies why would he go against his words and make a baby gay,....
frankly...im against gay men simply becuz it disgust me, i love vagina...but if your gay, do ya thing man, just leave me out of it.
anyways, born gay???! myth!!!
and gay chromosome,,,wat the hell?! no such thing