Execution by firing squad

"Lawmakers in Utah have proposed resuming the use of firing squads to carry out the death penalty if lethal injections drugs are not available."
Don't waste our time if you are against the death penalty.
I've always thought that firing squads are the most efficient and least painless way to execute someone.
Since anti-death penalty folks are making the drugs, which certainly do not work as well as a bullet or two anyway, difficult for the states to get, do you think execution by firing squad is a good solution?
Why or why not?

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no 12
yes 25
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  • slings_and_arrows

    I am not in favour of it at all, but at least with the guillotine you can't survive that, so you won't get a messy execution that's gone wrong.

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    • Jweezee

      Fun morbid fact of the day: some people that were executed by guillotine were asked to blink as long as they could after their head was severed. Witnesses said it continued up to 30 seconds after. The more you know.

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      • That should be medically impossible. The instant loss of blood pressure during a swift decapitation would render anyone instantly unconscious. Certainly not dead for some minutes, but unconscious without a doubt!

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        • Jweezee

          After reading your comment I did a little research and found that conciousness would probably last only A few seconds. there's a bunch of shit on the web about it. what the witnesses were seeing for up to thirty seconds was likely spasms and twitches of the face and eyes.

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        • slings_and_arrows

          This article says you could be still be conscious for up to 4 seconds: http://www.livescience.com/39219-can-severed-head-live.html

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  • seekelp

    First off, I'll say that I'm against the death penalty, but if we're living in a world where it exists, lets explore this idea.

    Both lethal injection and firing squad are pretty inhumane. In the case of lethal injection, the way you die is that your diaphragm (the muscle that allows you to inflate and deflate your lungs) gets paralyzed. You're just straight up not able to move your lungs, and you suffocate.

    A bullet can be extremely humane, but a firing squad involves a bunch of guys pointing guns at you, all but one of them with blanks (the idea is that they'll never know who actually shot the bullet that killed the person, so they'll have clean consciousnesses). If the guy with the live bullet doesn't hit you in the right spot, you'll be writhing in agony while a doctor confirms that you're still alive and you wait for a supervising officer to come and shoot you again.

    If anyone here ends up on death row, I'd recommend that you take the electric chair. Not the greatest way to go, but it still beats firing squad and lethal injection.

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    • donteatstuffoffthesidewalk

      lectric chairs messy as fuck i votes nitrous oxide asphyxiation

      30 seconds to unconsciousness 5 minutes to kaput

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      • seekelp

        For sure. The only issue is that they don't offer that. Or asphyxiation via inert gas. Or morphine overdose. Or any of the myriad other methods of execution that would actually be quick and painless.

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    • Unfortunately, you have it backwards. Please read. Little chance of a lingering death in scenario below.
      In some cases, one or more members of the firing squad may be issued a weapon containing a blank cartridge instead of one housing a live round.[1] No member of the firing squad is told beforehand if he is using live ammunition. This is believed to reinforce the sense of diffusion of responsibility among the firing squad members, making the execution process more reliable. It also allows each member of the firing squad to believe afterward that he did not personally fire a fatal shot[2]—for this reason, it is sometimes referred to as the "conscience round".

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      • seekelp

        Ya, in that case it would actually be better than the chair.

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    • mystery7

      Depends on the country I think. When executions are carried out in Indonesia I believe they have something like 12 shooters all aimed at the heart with only 3 of them with real bullets.
      Having 3 guns with live ammo makes it a lot more efficient at doing the most unpleasant job.

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    • DannyKanes

      Great comment, just want to add there are more than just one gun with live rounds. The ratio is nearly 50/50 for that exact reason, if the shooter misses, then it would be a very painful way to go. 10 guys, 5 live 5 blanks. Death would be almost instantaneous.

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  • thegypsysailor

    Personally, I don't see this great need to be kind to someone being executed. They have undoubtedly caused others a great deal of pain in the commission of the crime and the aftermath.
    I think the fair and just way to decide on the method of execution would be to let the victim and/or their relatives decide how the perpetrator should die.
    Enough of being sweet, considerate and gentle to the scum of the earth.

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  • RoseIsabella

    Is it normal that I have a certain nostalgia for the gallows? I guess I'm just an old softy, "hang em high!"

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  • green_boogers

    I think lethal injection is still the best way to go. Do the math and give them enough to kill a horse.

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  • BornAgainMan

    I say that the person on death row is normally their because they killed someone else, so way should we care about this scum. Kill him in the cheapest way you can find and the world will be a better for it. I know a lot of you guys would disagree with me but that is how I feel.

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    • anti-hero

      Way to turn the other cheek.

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      • BornAgainMan

        The bloodletting of the innocent must not be tolerated.

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        • anti-hero

          Not everyone on death row killed someone who was innocent...

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          • charli.m

            I get the feeling this guy's one of those "kill whoever we can" types. There are also wrongful convictions.

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      • charli.m

        You're gonna get deleted like I was.

        Why are Christians always so damn blood thirsty?

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        • BornAgainMan

          I am not blood thirsty.

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          • charli.m

            You're just folloing Jesus, and he wants people to fucking die. Gotcha. He definitely never preached love and compassion. That would just be fucked.

            WWJD?

            "I'LL SHOOT YOU ALL, MOTHERFUCKERS!"

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            • BornAgainMan

              Yes He preached love and compassion but He is also just and letting somebody live who has take someone else's live is not justice.

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        • anti-hero

          I'm not, but then again I try to actually follow the teachings.

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          • charli.m

            Blasphemy.

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            • anti-hero

              Hehehe

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        • Tehboss

          Because of the cannibalistic ritual maybe?

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          • charli.m

            Good point.

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  • dom180

    I think the whole conversation is a bit of a red herring. The outcome is the same no matter what method you use (i.e. the person dies). Some methods of execution might be a little bit more painful than others, but to focus on that small difference in pain is to ignore the elephant in the room: the outcome of death is a far greater suffering than any momentary pain, so much so that the method is utterly irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. Choosing a less painful method doesn't give you any moral high ground.

    If, for some reason, the pain is what interests you though, there are plenty of painless ways to kill a person. Do it with drugs like they do in Dignitas. Buy the drugs from people who actually want them to be used for that purpose, and have them administered by someone who doesn't believe it's wrong. This ought to be really simple.

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  • JD777

    I don't think firing squads were much better at providing sure, quick death than other methods of execution, and it's brutal and messy. I don't understand why they don't just administer a heavy dose of anesthetic to put the person to sleep. Then administer the lethal drug. That way the person is unconscious if the lethal drug takes longer than expected to do its job.

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    • xxbebopedxx

      because that costs money and the government hates doing that

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  • sega31098

    I am against the death penalty except in cases where the criminal is incurable and remorseless. However, if you have to kill, why not just invent a captive bolt gun (not to be confused with mushroom—head captive bolt, which only stun) for prisoners. It gives them an instantaneous, humane death.

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  • VirgilManly

    Big name pharmaceutical companies do not want their names associated with lethal products. It sort of makes sense since they spend billions to build up brand names. It isn't that they are for or against the death penalty.

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    • dinz

      Also many pharmaceutical companies in Europe who produced components of the final product were barred from selling them by the European Union.

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  • BobbyTheBear

    Let them go out with alittle fun. Put their fav music on an feed them xanax an alcohol untill they go.

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