How normal can a perfect man be under these conditions?

I'm 'perfect' but not in the same way you think 'perfect' is, it's not "leave it as it is, it's perfect!", it's more like perfecting. I smooth the edges with everything I do, I practice till I get everything exactly right (normally this takes a few or several remakes done differently out of practice), but I do something (or try to do something) better than perfect, I think 'wonderful', 'sublime', or 'peaceful', mostly '100% pure' would be a more accurate description (out of pure quality of life itself). Call me a fuddy duddy! But I do more than that: I be as I used to be, the less modified the better, the simpler the better, I perfect my aims with 'out with the new and in with the old'. The past is better than forgetting the past (I'm 29), it keeps getting better by being what it used to be. Therefore by being perfect, I'm better the first time than the millionth time, so I anti-practice to go back to the simple and basic. Is it normal for the oldest to be the best?

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Based on 25 votes (11 yes)
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Comments ( 28 )
  • NeuroNeptunian

    Oh my, such an amount of text built into a wall
    has slain my interest, now I have none at all
    for you see that without paragraph breaks
    as I read your stories, my brain aches!
    I'm sorry to have offended you.
    I wish you a good day and bid adeiu.

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    • Hansberger

      I'm used to it, I know this opinion repeats so many times it doesn't matter any more. You make rhymes eh! OK, very nice, I'm likening perction of behaviour with filing wood, e.g. evaluating, developing, and correcting to create the best, whereas wonderfulness and peace might be necessary.

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      • NeuroNeptunian

        Are you writing this for me? Or for your own benefit?

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        • Hansberger

          For everyone, and myself. This is an issue on perfection (and whether a perfect man can be normal under these conditions), not some quasi-religious Far Eastern mysticism.

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          • NeuroNeptunian

            I have no clue what you're talking about. Please use paragraph breaks and work on being concise.

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            • Hansberger

              Perfecting over life, and decency, that's all. I can't believe people are every serious. I hope my blog "Philosophy: the true value of life" on Google Groups would get you thinking.

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  • boston12

    i think uve brained my damage

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    • Hansberger

      I think you're morally sickened by how good I can be.

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  • bananaface

    Perfect wasn't the word I had in mind for you, but oh well...you seem to be having fun with your anti-practicing and anti-morality. Just out of curiosity, what are your views on anti-living?:)

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    • Hansberger

      Anti-living is pure selfishness, or acting like a Goth or altruist (something Ayn Rand is emotional about and it's not nice to her) would certainly be anti-living, I burned the midnight oil making adjustments to my anti-practice, e.g. it's about what not to do, not what to do, or what's right incase it's trouble, but I was more fair on myself, I decided to invent virtues by which I must live (learning from life experience), I learned what would work, so it turns out moral excellence would be best, yet people hate morality but only the minority would detest me (after years by which I learned so much, it turns out besides that, studying physics would be a good idea), I was even fairer on myself than that: what I refrain from practicing is refrain from an action in order to get no bad ones, but even fairer than that, in fact 'affirmative action' is planting trees, looking brave, strong and important, etc etc, countenance would be appropriate, because Chinese people love the way I'm 'altruistic', but that makes me love myself even more, since I'm getting candor and esteem from them (true story).

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  • Hansberger

    Extra note: my moral behaviour needed to be experimented and subconsciously tested, conscious testing only spoils the moral value. Therefore although my morality is the most ancient code I invented, it's also the coolest, the most socially acceptable, the most acceptable for its type (for something that rejects the moral codes of society), also the most righteous for something that rejects morality (my morals aren't morals, but anti-morals, for I'm an anti-moralist, and most of these "morals" aren't rules for conduct, but values used to govern my behaviour). The fact that I had to invent this code, took a painstaking 7 or 8 and a half months to bring minimal suffering and maximum benefit and happiness of the consequences. These things, like morality, are hard to invent, in fact they're painfully, backstabbingly, gruellingly difficult to make them superior and make them actually work, even work for everyone and not just the public, everyone and not just the majority. So I made 8 rules of anti-moral behaviour (when it was simple and slightly ineffective before), and the perfect good is this: no rules, rebelliousness, disobedience, what's enjoyed and not hated, affirmative action, acting mature, being serious, and finally, focussing my attention on my own business and not the business of others. This adding to my ultrasimple code is a good example of smoothing the rough edges, I tried it simply by sticking to it, it works, and has stopped my behaviour from being negative ever since.

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  • NiceKitty

    I found this to be rather interesting..
    I have been living life as perfect doesn't exist, and have been embracing 'different' and crazy. Reading this could have possibly changed my life.
    Thanks in advance.

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  • rogidez

    I used to be vain, but now I'm perfect

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    • Hansberger

      Vanity is wisdom, those who are humble are paying ceremonies to their superhuman controlling power, those who are vain are presenting themselves with a good life, here's how: the true value is philosophy, the true perfection is pleasure, pleasure is merely enjoyments of life, like grapes, wine, olives, pickles, appetisers, cheese & crackers, and apertifs, and also a cob loaf broken in honour of friendship and allies, this is how the only perfection in life is vitality and the only vitality is the love of life, e.g. people's lives, that means: be normal, socialise with friends (true friends), and fit in in a society that surrounds you.

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      • rogidez

        WTF???

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  • whatisthenatureofreality

    With regards to your preoccupation surrounding morality i would say that societies formed criminal justice system, or other high-stakes adversarial process for dispute resolution will almost always reflect the deep persistent struggles involved.
    The difficulty lies in the Law or community morality may be defined through commentary on the individual.

    An alternative to situational ethics or situated ethics must apply because the case cannot be removed from context and still be understood.

    Since throughout most of human politics it is "morally inconsistent". An Ethical dilemma is only apparent and does not interfere with the neighbour trying to kill you, then, usually, their desire to kill you, would likely be the basis of all aesthetics and thus moral choice.

    Individuals sometimes feel that making an appropriate lifestyle choice invokes a true morality, and that accepted codes of conduct within their chosen community are fundamentally moral, even when such codes deviate from more general in scope. Personal values which are popularly held by a person in such a situation would be forced to commit one wrong to avoid committing another, and be in constant conflict.
    Intrinsic and instrumental goods are not mutually exclusive categories.
    Would you agree?

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    • Hansberger

      Silver rule: don't get yourself killed, mate! I'm not from the U.S (yet I'm down south eating Ikea hotdogs), against the killing of God and in favour of the niceness to God, it's called "he doesn't follow a normal religion, he follows an agnostic religion, therefore his morality is ultrasoft and ultraharmless".

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      • whatisthenatureofreality

        In deeper context of human existence creating everyday objectives, value of our brains is something we cannot quantify objectively while having only a subjective experience of rawness of the true exposer. The scrutiny of our so called new life is that the real rationalism and logic is absent from our everyday routine. These so called liberal, conservatives and humanists are missing the true purpose/way of life and universe entirely. You for one seem to be at a level capable of understanding the ironic hypocrisy and pretentiousness surrounding our culture and societal based system of survival. Too much self absorbed are the humans and yet those retard consider themselves to be masters of their own free will and highly superior, complicating their life with so many artifacts and constructs. Little does those fools know that they are just random result if random events in the randomness of the chaotic cosmos and all their their features have evolved randomly. Those retards have no idea that that they are just randomly programmed objects, slaves to the unconscious preprogrammng and emotions governing all their actions. As obeying the laws of cause and effect with no free will at all. Just naturally randomly shaped in such a way so as to experience the illusions of pain, pleasure and emotions. Yet their egos keep growing more and more out of proportions with the passing time. Too much absorbed, involved in this random thing so called life. Not even the slightest idea they have that there can be thing in the so called cosmos much more complex and sentient than so called life and how you understand life would even begin to describe these more complex higher level things. As the science has discovered that more than 95% of universe is dark matter and dark energy. The universe(if there is such thing as we understand it) must be infinity containing infinite forms of infinity, infinitely different realities(is there is such a thing, which I think is completely a mental construct) and yet infinitely similar to each which together constitute infinity yet also constitute The Nothing or The Void.

        So one of the deeper levels of understanding would be that 'EVERYTHING IS NOTHING; NOTHING IS EVERYTHING; ANYTHING IS EVERYTHING; ANYTHING IS NOTHING'.
        Take my word for it. This is the deepest truth and closest to reality anyone has ever told you.

        The fog on your thought will begin to clear if you really try to understand what I have stated here. I'm truly trying to resolve the puzzles here.

        Side Note: Who is this I anyway?

        P.S. What are your thoughts on it?

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        • Hansberger

          Since the world around us is the 'rawness of true exposure', is it not the wars we go in battle with that's subconsciously created by our minds, and isn't it not really subjective since stuff happens beyond our control? Is not your 'rawness' equal to my own?

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          • whatisthenatureofreality

            You may accept constructive nihilism or conclude that the establishment is part of the rubicon of art. Class is intrinsically unattainable. Society is fundamentally a legal fiction. If constructivism holds, we have to choose between the deconstructivist paradigm of discourse and precapitalist feminism.

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  • Anime7

    I have a friend who I think has the same beliefs as you. According to her, perfection is a status that she tries to reach by being the best person she can possibly be. Thus, she's in a great shape and she's always studying, so her mind and body are at their best. If what you're saying is similar to her beliefs then I think I get what you're saying. Although, I'm not sure what you're asking.

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    • Hansberger

      Yes, it's official, perfectionism is normal (so normal it's in one subcontinent and one continent: U.S.A and Australia, spread throughout with half of both populations). Yes my beliefs are the same as any perfectionist's, the internet said I'm not a perfectionist, yeah right, it's a funny way of showing it!

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      • Anime7

        Did i offend you? If I did I didn't mean to I was merely trying to figure out what exactly is your belief.

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        • Hansberger

          No, you didn't offend me: my belief is this: 1. perfection, 2. picking the best of myself (e.g. being the best and picking the better things of the best, with no sacrifice on my old beliefs), 2. anti-morality which is perfectionism as such, the answer is very simple: the perfect conduct is toasts being made (and/or a glass of wine), symbolising or emblemising your position, thus bravery and strength (and not being offended) is perfect, whereas the perfect conduct is also affirmative action, and finally, all of the perfection is very simple: constructiveness at all times, including fine arts like painting, poetry and music, presentations of the king, which are innate, and they come inwardly with no external behaviour. Once again you didn't offend me. Yes, it's the same as your girl's beliefs: e.g. being the best I can be, creative endeavour is the only good.

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          • Anime7

            Oh ok, thank you for answering. Ya I think you're normal.

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  • Jeaneathean

    With the greatest of respect, you appear to be taking life far too seriously rather than actually enjoying it.

    Relax a bit, yeah!?

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    • Hansberger

      Ja, it's 'perfected', so now I can relax!

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