How would i learn to draw?

All my life I've wanted to be able to draw, I feel it would be incredibly satisfying to finish a piece of art, either by eye or from the mind, my problem is that the most complex thing i can draw is a stickman, a quick google brings up hundreds upon hundreds of conflicting pieces of information ( as it always does ) regarding the issue of learning to draw, however I know that there happen to be several talented artists on is it normal so I thought I'd ask here.

How did you start? Were there certain things you tried to start off drawing? Or did you follow the online guides using circles and squares to build foundations of images? Or did you just work it out yourself?

When I started playing the guitar I just taught myself, no tabs, no help I just experimented until I found something I liked, I've tried trying the same philosophy with my drawings but it's ended badly, any advice would be great.

Oh and otherwise it'll get deleted so, is it normal that I can't draw even the most basic things as an adult?

Kingofcarrotflowers

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  • CountessDouche

    I've had a bunch of jobs doing "art" professionally, and I honestly believe that the ability to draw is a learned skill and not necissarily an innate talent.

    Where most people have trouble when doing a realistic drawing is in scale and proportion, and that's because humans have a tendency to interpret an image based on patterns and recognition of an image as a whole, instead of a series of lines and shapes. So when you draw something that is out of proportion, it's very easy to tell that it looks "wrong" but it's difficult to tell why...if that makes sense.

    There's a couple of tricks to help with this problem.

    First of all, when you start off- it's much easier to replicate a two-dimensional image than it is to replicate a three dimensional image, so you might want to begin with drawing from photos rather than life studies.

    When you're first learning proportion, it helps to enlarge an image and put it on a grid, that way you can focus on each "square" rather than the whole image, and your replicating a series of lines rather than your idea of what an image should look like (for example, most people draw a human eye without actually looking at the shape- they recognise symmetry and tend to draw a "football" shape, where as the human eye is symmetrical along an x/y axis but more in a parallelogram shape).

    Also, it can help to flip a picture upside down before you draw it, that way you focus on the lines rather than the totality of the image itself.

    You can use other tricks, like measuring the scale with a pencil eraser.

    Having said that, there's so much fantastic art that isn't exactly representational or lifelike or proportional...Picasso, Matisse, Klimt, etc etc...don't get hung up on your drawings being super realistic; that can limit your creativity.

    If you have any other questions, I'm all over this thread. I used to teach art classes, and I MISS it :(!!

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    • pastor_of_muppets

      You sound like a very clever person. I believe you helped the OP the most out of everybody here with your answer..

      I only have one question regarding..."...the ability to draw is a learned skill..."

      I was never taught how to draw and ever since I began drawing they have been pretty lifelike and accurate. I wasn't one of those kids who started with stickmen

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      • CountessDouche

        Thanks.

        And yeah, I agree. There are certain people that do have an innate artistic talent, but it's rare. It's like those musicians that are born with perfect pitch. I just hate when people treat artistic skill as something you either have or you don't, because it makes art seem inaccessible, and I do believe it's something that can be learned with practice.

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        • pastor_of_muppets

          I like you :) you sound like a really nice person

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          • CountessDouche

            Aww. Thanks!

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    • reminiscent

      I cant do grids lol
      my art turns out super fugly ... I think its because one in draw anime and two I taught myself and so when an art teacher came along with grids and body proportions I didnt do so well....rofl

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    • kingofcarrotflowers

      Wow thank you that was really helpful :) despite not being able to draw myself I agree with you on that, I believe some are more naturally adept to pick things up with speed but with enough practice I think anyone can get into whatever art form they want to

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    • Shrunk

      Awh! Do you have any tips on how to get into the drawing/illustrating business? That would be my dream job! *w*

      (I guess this topic was deleted for whatever reason but is now back to the front page x)

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      • reminiscent

        College first and build a portfolio. ..then apply for jobs

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        • Shrunk

          College, for illustration..? :s
          What if you have a really good portfolio instead..?

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          • reminiscent

            If you have a good portfolio then start sending it in to places.
            I suggested college because the projects you do while in school can go in your portfolio. ..also you learn how to put a portfolio together. also a recommendation letter from your teacher is always a plus.

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            • Shrunk

              I see. Thanks

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  • Shrunk

    I would say, don't bother with tutorial type things, just choose an item and draw it your own way... then note your mistakes, and if you are having trouble, choose something more basic for next time... as Im sure you know, it takes patience and a lot of work, so please keep at it, and don't lose faith just when something doesn't come out "right"! that sounds like common sense, but it seems to be the downfall of many. people say "i can't draw so why bother" but EVERYBODY with hands (or even a mouth, or feet) can draw!! It is NOT a talent, it is a SKILL! and all skills take practice... i would love to see what level you are at if you wouldn't mind showing. I love drawing, and I love to see other people's drawings even if they "can't draw" because I think there is always expression to be found, even in the smallest of doodles, about how one's mind works...

    Sorry if it's not very helpful to your question, but personally i started drawing since i could hold a pencil, and never stopped! It seems to be the only thing I have continuously loved through my life...

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  • reminiscent

    I taught myself how to draw and started at a very young age as being an artist is all I really wanted to do.
    To draw first you need to see that everything is made out of lines...I litarly view the world as a series of connecting lines.

    My advice for you is to start simple as a child I drew simple things ..as I got older my drawings were more complex.
    for my example ill use a butterfly...lets look at other peoples line art of butterflys via google. Get ready to draw exactly what you see...do not trace...draw line for line a simple line art of a butterfly by looking at your screen and then drawing on the paper in front of you....do this a few times with only simple line art.... after some practice move on to a more complex line art of a butterfly and practice drawing it.... then move on to different poses ...its wings folded and different angles....finally move on to a real picture of a butterfly...even practicing with coloring it in.
    Soon you wont need to look at a picture anymore and can draw it from memory .
    Use this method on other insects, animals, or inanimate objects...even people.
    it takes time and practice but you can do it!

    If you would like to see some of my art to verify if ill be a reliable source I would be happy to show you some. Otherwise since im on my phone I dont want to bother unless you want me to :P

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    • kingofcarrotflowers

      Thanks for the advice, well I don't want to bother you but if you're happy to share some of your work I'd be more than happy to see it :)

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      • reminiscent

        I had a good sleep so ill link you some things now lol
        -tiny clay cake
        http://soliaonline.com/community/art/images/6bddb502d2ed8728148d96aeb52375c1-orign.jpg

        -water color
        http://soliaonline.com/community/art/images/0215a4dfa75a1fabb3b899c7958dfe49-orign.jpg

        -digital anime
        http://soliaonline.com/community/art/images/9b6757503ddc30430fc5033c2afbe6d1-orign.jpg

        -tree pen and paper
        http://soliaonline.com/community/art/images/6ef57e546ce370bfb92d5c8f0db7e496-orign.jpg

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        • kingofcarrotflowers

          Wow, they're really impressive I like every one but especially the last one the lined shading gives it a really nice texture, its nice to see so many different styles as well, you're good!

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          • kingofcarrotflowers

            And the detail on digital anime is brilliant

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            • kingofcarrotflowers

              How do you find working with objects like clay in your art, its something I find hard to get my head around, wouldn't know where to start

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  • stepwriteup

    gets some of those cartoon drawing books for kids of like Disney characters and bugs bunny. They are pretty complicated but the instructions are detailed and will help you a lot. Also try and draw all the weird stuff in your brain that you keep hidden from people put some music on and see what happens don't take it to seriously. draw at least a couple times a week look at peoples faces off TV and draw their faces and unique characteristics. most importantly don't. give up. this is what I do and I have my stuff put in art galleries and made money drawing.

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  • vaginahouse

    look up bob ross he will teach you everything he even has his own tv show

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  • shuggy-chan

    I like drawing on the wall by beating my face against it repetitively

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    • pixie44

      same

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  • mystery7

    Get hold of a book called 'Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain', by Betty Edwards. When I did all the exercises in that book my drawing abilities went from very limited to really good.

    Drawing is all about perception and learning to see train your brain to see differently.

    If you and I sat in front of a subject (say, a gorgeous naked woman) to draw or paint her, we both have access to exactly the same visual information.

    So why can I draw and you can't?

    Because an untrained brain will seek to draw the SYMBOL of a naked human being (in your case a stick figure) rather than what is actually in front of you.
    I have taught my brain /mind to see differently. You can do it too.

    Read the book and do all of the exercises and you will improve 1000%!

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  • Pika-girl

    What I did:

    Kept drawing and improving by trying out different techniques. I also used some sites like Dragoart and watched tutorials.

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  • Derps

    I'm the best drawer in my city (is what everyone thinks) and I started just drawing random shapes and adding on to it I never know what I'm going to draw I just add on I can draw a bunny octopus hybrid so just don't think whenever I think when I draw I do terrible

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  • bleepingderp

    i'm good at drawing but i've always hated art class. I taught myself how to draw because I hated doing the light circles and then erase the circle then add in five more circles then erase those, then do all of these other un-needed things. I started to draw when i was young at i was really bad at drawing, i mean, really bad. I thought that stick figures were some sort of majestic piece of art, you know why? because all my life i had followed other peoples way of drawing. so one night, i don't remember why i was doing it, i decided to try and draw a my littlest pet shop toy. I found the cutest one and then i drew it, and you know what... It came out amazing, i continued to copy the original drawing until i was really good at drawing, then i used that basic design to draw other animals, then i continued from there to draw other things. I got bored of that design and wanted to learn how to draw my little pony for my sister. These were much harder and had more to them. I watched a quick draw video and that helped me with putting things in the right place. I never watched that video again after my first my little pony drawing. i once again practiced and practiced, and i looked at pictures of the things i wanted to draw. You should never do things by memory unless you have drawn it a million times. Trust me, your gonna wanna look at pictures. I hope this helps. Also everyone learns art differently. You may work better with the draw a circle and erase. Or maybe you'll work better if you watch other people draw, or maybe you'll do something i haven't thought of while writing this. Have a nice day/night and i hope you get to become a good drawer. But hey, some people just cant draw. I cant cook things more advanced than soup, i would enjoy to, but i don't have the motivation, dont think art is a genetic thing, it shouldn't be. I come from a family of people who love to cook and once again, i cant cook things more advanced than soup. once again, bye.

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  • MangoTango

    If you want to draw, just do it.

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  • Riddler

    Buy a book.. DUH, This is not ROCKET SCIENCE

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    • bleepingderp

      the books are on crack. they don't teach you anything but hoe to draw and erase circles, no offence if they somehow magically helped you somehow. But i dont think the books work

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  • Koda

    Hey, King!

    I think most artists start to draw because they have something in their brains that wants to exercise a certain skill-set. Like most hobbies, drawing is almost addictive. You learn from experience, but to an artist, it's not really work, it's just fun. In order to get better at anything, you have to do it a lot. And if you don't REALLY want to do it, it never gets done.

    For a concrete tip, I really would try to use those shapes and wire-frames to get your proportions right. They really do help a lot. You have to think about it like drawing a simple blank mannequin and getting all the proportions and posing right BEFORE you add detail, because if you start detailed and you make a mistake, you're screwed.

    Unfortunately, you can't "learn" talent. It's there or it isn't, but in order to discover whether or not you have the visuospatial mind necessary, you've gotta start trying. Start more simply and work your way up. Spend a lot of time perfecting your next drawing, don't stop until you're really happy with it. There are many, many, many steps to a completed work. If you get stuck, leave it, and come back to it later with fresh eyes.

    Good luck!!

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  • pixie_dust

    Ok, here is ONE technique using the power of your mind. First you visualize yourself with the piece of paper and yourself being able to draw whatever it is. visualize what it looks like as you do it. Do this in your mind a few times. This technique works for bowling, billiards, etc. You just have to be patient.

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    • bleepingderp

      i don't think art is a mind trick. I never visualize myself drawing. I just get this deep craving to draw and i do, a lot, on important papers. Patience is key though.

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  • DubstepismyMJ

    Well its best to learn art by people showing you visually.
    Here is a youtuber i found to have quite a finesse skill.

    Weiworks.

    Hope that helps. His asian too... Soo yeah

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  • CalciteQueen

    ((I'm not a famous artist, but I have topped my high school cohort and won a few minor third-party prizes for illustration.))

    I don't remember exactly how I started, but I do remember life drawing classes being a fundamental step to my development as an artist. Life drawing isn't only about mechanics, it helps you hone an artist's mindset. You gotta understand that something like 70% of the physical progress will be made within the first five hours of a still life study and the rest will slowly trickle in after seriously observing the subject.

    I also remember using an Intuos3 4x5 as a middle schooler. It was tiny, but it got me started in digital art. From there onwards, I studied Loomis and Gurney's books. I managed to get ahold of several GNOMON workshop videos, several copies of ImagineFX and a Spirited Away storyboard book.

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  • Avant-Garde

    I'm not really the person to ask. I tried in vain for many years to master drawing. I enrolled in an art school through the post, I bought books, and I took classes. They seemed to work better for others.

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  • slings_and_arrows

    I like sycra on youtube:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K4nTEgET9DA

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xmiwGm32dXU

    There are many other tutorial channels as well. Probs better out there, this guy is a cartoonist I think, but I like his videos.

    I'd also say practise drawing shapes and breaking down an object into its constituent shapes. Draw the basic (geometricish) shapes first I'd say. Then build on from there. Start easy, bottles, different shaped bottles, stuff round the house that interests you...or outdoors.

    To draw a person I would strongly advise you get guidance from a tutorial (like in the links) or a teacher about dimensions otherwise you will probs wonder why your portrait pictures don't look right.

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  • pastor_of_muppets

    I just draw... I don't even think about it.

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