Hows this ok? lgbt

In California highschools you are required to take sex ed to graduate and in this class they teach you about different gender identities and sexualities. I did some research into these classes and it seems they are forcibly teaching these liberal values to our children. And I dont agree with this. I believe this is similar to teaching religion in schools, which is illegal because who wants a teacher teaching your kids those values that you may not agree with.

My issue is with them reassuring the students that becoming trans is "totally normal and ok and theres nothing wrong with this" but atleast half of the country does not agree with these liberal values. I personally do not believe it is ok and there is something wrong with it". So if its not ok to teach conservative values (like it not being ok) why is it ok for them to forcibly teach them their values?

I imagine if someones child took one of these classes and then came home and told their parents they're going to transition it would create a lot of problems. Why is it so important for them to teach our kids their values? They also require critical race theory and now gender studies. It seems like blatant indoctrination of our youth.

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  • SkullsNRoses

    No-one is going to transition after simply learning that transgender people exist. There have always been and always will be LGBT people, I suggest you get over it.

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    • 1WeirdGuy

      There's 12 non binary kids in an elementary school near where I live. Are you telling me if you never taught them what non binary was they would all wake up the same day and say "mommy I dont want to be a he or a she anymore" all of them doing this at the same time coming to that conclusion independently? The answer is clearly no. These kids did not come up with non binary on their own. They were taught this by teachers and other kids and told that this was a thing and that its socially acceptable.

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      • cherry1

        what would even be wrong with that? if its just a phase then let them grow out of it

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      • hauntedbysandwiches

        Exactly it's brainwashing. In most American schools now they're having kids write down their pronouns and asking them what gender they are it's sick

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    • LloydAsher

      I advocate for the LGBT crowd split up as there are aplenty of gay people who do not want to advocate for transgenders because their agenda is completely seperate from the gay agenda..

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      • 1WeirdGuy

        I advocate for them not teaching this in schools just like religion. Like religion this is for the parents to teach. These SJWs would be absolutely freaking out if the tables were reversed here and conservative teachers were teaching the conservative view to these kids.

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    The problem is the rights of trans people aren’t a value or something to agree or disagree with. They have the right to exist. Teaching children that is no different than teaching them that slavery was bad or Nazis were evil. It’s no different than teaching them we all have the right to free speech and the right to bear arms. Imagine if somebody was on here saying schools need to stop teaching children about the second amendment because they shouldn’t indoctrinate children with conservative values that half the country disagrees with.

    (Side note, fun fact: nowhere near half the country thinks trans people shouldn’t have the right to exist. Hell, not even half of republicans think that. Only 38% of republicans think minors should be denied transition based medical care, for example.)

    As far as religion goes, schools can and do teach that religion exists, they just aren’t supposed to favor one religion over another. It’s the same thing here. They’re not teaching children that they are trans, they’re just teaching them about the existence of transgenderism. Which, again, isn’t something that’s disputable.

    As far as not teaching kids conservative values, they’ve been doing that this entire time. Every time a teacher tells their class there’s only two genders, they’re indoctrinating them with conservative propaganda. And that’s the still the default across much of the country. Unless you don’t think schools should ever mention anything about sexuality or gender - which is a TERRIBLE idea - there’s no neutral position, they’re either going to learn the liberal view or the conservative view. They might as well be taught what science has proven(there’s more than two genders) and what the constitution says(that everybody has equal rights), since that’s the truth.

    Oh, and bonus fun fact: critical race theory is a law school course. Nobody’s teaching it in grade school, no matter what your uncle shares on Facebook.

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    • LloydAsher

      I think you are confusing the conservative party with the "normal" thought process of the average American.

      Do you honestly think trans issues are the top of the average person's mind? Of course not! What they dont want their kids to do is come out as being trans. Especially if it was influenced due to the toxic culture children are constantly being exposed to. Trans people taken as practically saints compared to normal people. How it's brave to come out as trans as to imbue it with a greater purpose than a strictly personal individual choice.

      Bonus fact. Yes critical race praxis is being taught in schools. Not at a college level of course... they have to dumb it down to a 1st grade level because teaching children to be racist is aparently the social justicy thing to do now a days.

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        The “normal” thought process of the average American is the supposed “liberal” view that OP is so concerned about. The average American doesn’t see anything wrong with being trans and they don’t think they should be discriminated against. That’s the vast majority of Americans, including most republicans.

        If a person is trans, they should feel comfortable coming out as trans. Making them uncomfortable with it because their bigot families don’t want a trans family member doesn’t actually stop them from being trans, it just makes them more likely to kill themselves.

        I think you missed a word in that last sentence, but yes, teaching children to not be racist is the “social justicy” thing to do. Because being racist is bad and we should stop teaching children to be racist, which conservatives have been doing for decades.

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  • Somenormie

    It's 2021 get over it.

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    • hauntedbysandwiches

      Brainwashing children is child abuse no one should get over it

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  • LloydAsher

    People have to seperate what is biologically normal and what is socially acceptable.

    Biologically being straight is optimal as it's the one that we use to procreate. Being gay is normal biologically speaking (it appears throughout nature), though normally it leads to a genetic dead end.

    Being trans is completely unatural and is a mental illness. Its not normal to believe that you are a different sex than you are born as. It's not being bigoted to state this distinction vs the homosexual community. The concept of gender adds an unneeded complexity to the entire matter.

    Gender technically doesnt exsist as was a term that was used interchangeably with sex. Sex exists because sexual dimorphism exists in mammals and other complex life. How you feel factor 0% in the objective reality of sex. Male or female, anything in between is a mutation that usually results in the sterility of the person.

    I have to have a position on this since I have klienfelters. My sex chromosomes are XXY does that make me female? No it does not since I'm a male with an extra X chromosome. Some true hermaphrodites exist but their gonads are completely non functional. To reiterate it's not biologically normal to have both sets. In fact its biologically abnormal to have it. The same as it being abnormal to have six fingers on your hand.

    I have to have an opinion on this because every other fucking leftist uses the klienfelters case as a reason why trans persons exist which is completely insulting to people who are born intersex. In fact we are even less likely to be transgendered than the average population. Ironically proving that transgenderism is a mental illness rather than it being a physical problem.

    To disprove of objective reality in favor of not hurting someones feelings is being both dishonest and completely unfair to those who are suffering from a mental disorder that need psychological help rather than the "quick" solution of reassignment and then if they want to switch back often suffer societal consequences from the same people who push the transitions.

    Making it normal doesnt help anyone! Not those who are legitimately suffering or those who may just be gay in the first place thinking that they are another sex because its everywhere in our modern culture and its praised for social justice reasons rather than the wellbeing of the individual suffering.

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    • 1WeirdGuy

      I have no problem with someone being gay or trans. I literally dont care at all because it doesnt affect me and I believe in freedom. But when you start making or support making laws that forces kids to learn that this is a normal and acceptable thing to do I start hoping someone murders you. I only care about the kids and if a teacher teaches my kids this garbage we are gonna have a problem. Scares the hell out of me as a parent.

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  • BubaBoo

    Get out of your children's lives and let 'em live FFS!!! It's not your life, let them make mistakes and learn from that, let them love, let them do whatever the fuck they want if they take responsibility for that!! Y'all are so worried if your baby is gay or bi or straight!! It's their fucking businesses, not yours.

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  • No one becomes gay or trans simply by knowing its a thing.
    If so gay people would become straight all the time since straight is still the norm and there's few romantic movies, for example, featuring a same sex people. They don't though because it doesn't work that way but I bet many would wish it was that simple since being gay is not easy. Makes it harder to both find love and acceptance.
    I think you need to update your views a little. Teaching religion and teaching sexuality is not the same thing. Religion is a free choice for most people nowadays and doesn't need to be enforced on anyone who doesn't live in a religious society. There's also no facts when it comes to religion, only beliefs.
    Sexuality on the other hand is something you don't choose and that people suffer on the daily from due to people not accepting them. For people to find acceptance for the fact that a lot of people actually falls in love with the same gender and not care so much about it would be a great thing. It would fall into the norm more and become less of a big deal. Two consenting adults loving each other and whatever they choose to do in the bedroom is only their business anyway.

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    • 1WeirdGuy

      Do you think kids would have became non binary if they were never told it exist? All these kids waking up at the same time and say "I wanna be called they and them instead of he." No kid thinks of shit like this on their own. People told them it was a thing and its acceptable behavior so they did it.

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  • SmokesTheScrapper

    Why do you think it is wrong to teach that there is more than you see?

    I don't live in America so I'm not referring to that. Here in Europe, it's not forced or brainwashed. It's simply addressed in a two-hour lesson that it's fucking shit to think that everything that doesn't conform to the majority is crap and should be wiped out, either directly or indirectly.

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  • hauntedbysandwiches

    This stuff infuriates me to no end and it's disgusting. They need movements against this and petitions. Too many people remain silent hating it yet not speaking up. We need more and more people to speak up especially larger figures. This needs to stop.

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  • Vvaas

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