I can't prove the bible fake but i don't want to believe in it

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I'm not christian and I don't believe in the Bible. I'm just bringing this up because my mom is christian and she keeps pushing me to get into that stuff.

The Bible just has things I just can't argue against.
Like it tells of fulfilled prophecies. and it mentioned how God told them that the Earth is round, how the universe is infinite, how the Earth is suspended in nothing, and more.

How do you say that all that is a load of BS? Can anyone argue against it? If everything the Bible says is true then why do so many people not believe in it?

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  • Short4Words
    8 years ago

    Then don't believe in it.

    There are people who believe because of their personal experiences and that is hard to grasp for anyone who hasn't been in the same situation.

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  • Beep_Beep
    8 years ago

    Your mother is a wishful thinker. So was Chicken Little.

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  • [Old Memory]
    8 years ago

    People often see what they want to see, and this is especially true when it comes to religion. No where in the bible does it say the the Earth is a sphere. The only thing that really refers to it being round is...

    "He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in."

    But a circle with a tent like canopy could also be a flat circle like a plate with the sky as a domed structure. You normally wouldn't discribe a sphere as a tent or canapy.

    There are also other passages such as in Revelations where the Earth is discribed as having 4 corners. That not only sugguests flat, bit contradicts the previous passage. Some people say that refers to North South East and West. But that is also finding meaning beyond what is there.

    The point is one person can say I read it this way so the Earth is flat, and another person can read the same thing another way and decide it means the Earth is round. That it what I mean by people seeing whatever they want to see.

    Same with prophecy. It is easy to select something from the Bible and then compare it to a later event, and find a way to interpret it to match that. But are there predictions in the Bible that you can conclusively match to later known historical events? No.

    If you would like to post a Bible passage which does accurately predict such an event, I would love to read it. But I am not aware such a passage actually exists.

    It is also often hard to prove something didn't happen. In the Bible many of the early characters live to be between 500 and 1000 years or more. Is it possible to prove they didn't live that long? No, how could you prove that? But logic tells me there is no reason to believe people lived to 1,000. Same with Noah's Ark and many other stories in the Bible. It is not possible to prove they didn't happen, but that is not a reason to believe they did happen. And logically, the events don't seem possible.

    When you make an absurd claim, it is not on the person you are making the claim to to prove it didn't happen. I can tell you right now that the room you are in is filled with invisible undetectable monsters. Can you prove me wrong? Is that a reason to believe it might be true? No. Don't tell me that people lived to be 1,000 and that every animal was on the same boat, and then tell me I have to prove it didn't happen. My answer will be, why don't you try proving it did.

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    • revecroyant
      8 years ago

      Reading this.......de-javu.

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    • dytrog
      8 years ago

      If the universe was less fine tuned it could not exist as we know it. electro magnetism and gravity can't be altered. If gravity was grater it would all be pulled back together if it was less suns and planets could not form. If we didn't have the giant planets we would not exist as they protect us from comets and asteroids.
      If the tuner had a dial and moved it one click no planets no stars no us.

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      • [Old Memory]
        8 years ago

        I am going to address your response but I just wanted to point out real quick that we are talking about completely different things. The reason I want to point that out is because so many people seem to confuse them as being the same thing. The OP's question was about if the Bible is a book of fact or fiction, and that is what my respone was related to. What you are doing is stating what you believe is proof of devine intervention, but that has nothing to do with the Bible.

        That's because it is possible for devine intervention to have been invloved in the creation of the universe, but also possible that such devine intervention did not occur in a way that is even close to the Biblical representation and that the Bible could still be 100% fiction. In fact, there are billions of people who believe that devine intervention was involved in the creation of the universe, but also do not believe in the Bible at all. So simply stating that devine intervention must have played a part in the creation, is not the same as saying anything in the Bible is true, nor would it be proof that anything in the Bible is true.

        Now, to the point you are making, what you are describing is not God, it is math and physics. You are also confusing cause and effect. The universe and all of its parts had to lay out in a certain way for us to be exactly where we are now. There were also a tremendous amount of others ways things could have occurred that would have resulted in a different universe, or no universe.

        Everyone of those possibilities would have faced tremendous odds of occurring, but one of them was going to occur. So while the fact that this particular situation came to be against incredible odds may seem devine to you, it is really no more devine than any of the other possibilities.

        People win the power ball all the time. There are literally hundreds of millions of possibilities that can play out. The one possibility that needed to play out for the people who won to win might seem incredible. But the truth is those numbers occurring are no more or less incredible than any of the other sequence of numbers, many of which may have resulted in no winner at all. That is not proof that devine intervention helped someone win the power ball, that is just math.

        Just because the odds against something happening are long, doesn't mean that devine intervention was required for it to happen, and it certainly doesn't prove devine intervention was involved. So while you are welcome to see the hand of God in the creation of the universe for those reasons if you so choose, the universe is very capable of coming in to being with out a god of any kind.

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        • dytrog
          8 years ago

          I was making the point that something so finely tuned may suggest a intelligent designer.
          Name the tuner what you want God, ET or ?
          A giant explosion has never created anything except a mess. It would be like setting off a big bomb in a library and when it settled down it had made a Webster's dictionary. Or a hurricane going through a junk yard and making a space shuttle.

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          • [Old Memory]
            8 years ago

            I understand the point you were making, I said in my response that was the point you were making. I also explained why I disagreed with it. This is all covered in my third and fourth paragraph. As you have not said anything new other than to confirm I understood you correctly, I see no reason to repeat the response I already gave.

            As to what you said about library explosions and hurricanes, it really doesn't apply, because those are not among the possible outcomes of those scenarios. As I already explained, based on the math and physics you yourself mentioned the universe as we know it was a possible outcome. It was an unlikely outcome as I said, but no more unlikely than any other possible outcome. As I said, just because something is unlikely doesn't mean it requires devine intervention. As I also said, if you wish to choose to see the hand of God in it, fell free. But it does not require devine intervention.

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  • Stamex
    7 years ago

    You don't need to disprove it.
    The believers need to prove it.
    Spoiler alert: They can't.

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  • MadNot2Angry
    8 years ago

    Many "holy" books are scientifically accurate, yet the Qur'an beats the Bible by a mile.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_foreknowledge_in_sacred_texts

    As for as proving the Bible is bullshit, just check out all the inconsistencies.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB3g6mXLEKk

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  • Prisangel04
    8 years ago

    I wish my mom would talk about Jesus more, but she doesn't like talking him much.

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  • dytrog
    8 years ago

    The bible can't be proven. What made a singularity creating the big bang. Where did the singularity come from. Nothing from nothing created everything by nothing? I don't mean no big bang, just where did that much mater come from condensed into the size of a atom.

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    • Insurgence
      8 years ago

      This is space. I'm sure there's infinite things in it that can blow anyone's mind. Matter can be condensed if there's enough pressure, but I wouldn't be surprised if blowing out of one atom would cause space to still be growing and infinite. It wouldve been such an unfathomable explosion.... I mean there's people who theorize our whole universe could just be a hologram from that one atom, and they have plausible reasons why. I'm just glad us humans aren't making religions and fake god's to explain normal things like the sun, storms, ect. ect. Eventually people will figure out that religion is one of the biggest scams for power and money, and the thousands of religions in the world will fade away. Thankfully now we're able to analyze things and find answers about them or make educated guesses to the best our smartest can.

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      • dytrog
        8 years ago

        Science can't explain everything. I can see how the big bang makes sense. I can't see how they can prove nothing from nothing created everything by nothing.

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  • LittleGirlBrutallySodomized
    8 years ago

    "Though I have searched repeatedly, I have not found what I was looking for. Only one out of a thousand men is virtuous, but not one woman!" - Ecc 7:28

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    • [Old Memory]
      5 years ago

      Girls are made for Love

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  • thegypsysailor
    8 years ago

    The bible was written by men, so the only thing in it are the thoughts of those men. Gawd had nothing in the world to do with it. Any 'prophecies' were probably added AFTER the fact when the bible was rewritten, I believe sometime around 800AD?

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