I don't necessarily think of atheists as smarter people

Please note my use of "necessarily". I am aware that smarter people often tend to be atheists. Also, please note that I am not trying to bash atheists.

Honestly, if someone tells me they are an atheist, I will not think of them as smarter or dumber than what they were originally. Until they prove to me they are smart in other ways, I will not make a judgement on their intelligence.

I know atheists may not believe in crazy superstitions or fairy tales, but to me, that doesn't necessarily make them automatically smarter than those that do. While the atheist community tends to criticize the religious community from spewing uneducated and ridiculous crap, I have seen a huge amount of emotional and illogical drivel from atheists, and a whole lot of them who are as rigid and stubborn in their unscientific beliefs as many young earth creationists are. Okay, atheists may accept evolution more than religious people, but that doesn't preclude that an atheist can be a moron in different ways. I'm studying science right now, and I can tell you I have seen loads of atheists spew utter nonsense and unscientific bullcrap and misinterpret and even fabricate statistics just like how some butthurt religious people do. Yes, I know not all atheists are like I described, and while atheists ON AVERAGE may be smarter than religious people, that doesn't excuse the fact that many outliers exist. I actually have a Muslim friend who was one of the top students in my high school and even in international competitions, routinely scoring perfect or near perfect on every test, outperforming even most atheists in my school. I'm not really religious, but it actually blows me away how intelligent he is.

Okay, its true that the smartest people tend to be atheists. The studies have shown that on average, atheists tend to have higher IQs. That doesn't necessarily mean that being an atheist makes your IQ jump. I mean studies have shown that American society is actually one of the most racially tolerant societies in the world, but that doesn't stop groups like the KKK and Stormfront from existing. In that light, I don't automatically think that being an atheist makes one immune from being a moron, anymore than being an American makes someone immune from being a racist. I'd consider a person who is an expert in geology, biology, chemistry, physics and geography but believes that a magical walrus started the Big Bang by peeing on a koala a whole lot smarter than an atheist who failed kindergarten, though obviously I would think VERY lowly of the former's belief.

tl;dr: While it is true that intelligent people tend to be non-religious and often atheist, I do not think that being an atheist automatically makes you a smart person. One may not have a delusion, but that doesn't mean that you can't be a moron in other ways.

Is it normal to hold this belief?

P.S. Again, I would like to point out that I am not trying to bash atheists, nor am I saying that all or even the majority of atheists think that being atheist automatically makes them smart. I am also not trying to bash religious people either, nor am I trying to defend the beliefs of the religious (I mean I was really tempted to throw a brick at the screen when I was dragged into watching "God's Not Dead"). I am simply saying that I do not think being an atheist automatically makes one smart, and asking whether or not it's normal to hold this belief.

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  • disthing

    "I do not think that being an atheist automatically makes you a smart person."

    Well yeah, I thought that was pretty obvious :/
    Just as being religious doesn't mean being stupid, being irreligious doesn't mean being clever.

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    • daydreamer394

      You would be surprised at how many naive people think that. It's probably because they like to feel superior in a bid to conceal their own insecurities.

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    • Go onto Yahoo! Answers and you'll see how not-obvious it is to many people on there.

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      • Riddler

        This is because no religion/irreligion raises your IQ points. Anyone who thinks so is stupid.

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        • anti-hero

          I don't think you know how IQ works.

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      • disthing

        Yeah but Yahoo Answers is largely populated by preteens and idiots

        (How is babby formed?)

        It's not representative of society in general.

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        • It isn't just Y!A either. Go to practically any discussion forum and this will occur, and some of the most uprated posts will be saying stuff like how if someone is an atheist they are automatically Einstein-level geniuses. The way they will talk would make Richard Dawkins sound like Mother Teresa.

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  • ilovetoiletrolls

    Of course it's normal. Not all religious people are crazy, not all politicians are a-holes, etc. You're not stereotyping which is the smart way to approach things.

    If statistics showed the most intelligent people like to fly Kites. There would be those who were ranked the most intelligent flying kites, those who are not intelligent and fly kites and those who are wanting to appear more intelligent so they start to fly kites. =P

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    • Damn, I got to go get a kite now.

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    • Twickers

      Does that make people who sail boats statistically super smart? lol Basically, it seems like flying a sail is something like flying a really big kite, playing off the wind.

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      • kayleeberry101

        Bahaha

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  • TheShyGirlFromWork

    What's the point of this Post? Is it just to rant... ya' know, that's what Blogs are for? Yeah, go there and rant your "questions".

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  • myspace84

    Anyone who believes in religion is an absolute moron...absolutely.

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    • derpyderp

      You're an atheist?

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  • Anonymous200

    Of course. Not believing in God doesn't necessarily make you smarter. I'm an atheist, and even I know we have some dumb ones among us.

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  • Nokiot9

    God and religion in general are just excuses. Excuses for us not to seek true knowledge. The forbidden fruit. Truth. We as humans are still in our infancy as a species and religion is a security blanket. Like most children, we will shed it as we come to understand the unknown. What happens to us after we die, before we are born, what is in the dark out there? Being ignorant has nothing to do with how smart u are. But everything with the info u are exposed to

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  • Nokiot9

    Faith and common sense often collide. If u can straight face tell me that u can live inside a whale for a month. Then subterfuge it with, "it doesn't say WHALE! I easy BIG fish." Or tell me snakes can turn to sticks and frogs fall from the sky, of COURSE I'm gonna question ur sanity and common sense. Atheists don't make ridiculous claims about things that happened thousands of years ago based on a book that none of the authors were actually there to see it all.

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  • stuartiannaylor

    The religious God thing always perplexes me as it would seem to be a reflection of the human need to be righteous.

    There is no right or wrong with an act of God and for millions it has always acted as psychological comfort blanket for a stark and bleak world.

    I have to ask why do so many humans on this planet have different Gods and religions as surely that would infuriate the one true god.

    Also I have to ask if you study religion from pre history why are elements retained. Isis, Gilgamesh and floods the whole way through to the close links between the fundamentals of Muslim and Christian faith. There is an evolution to the God story and how can this happen with an entity such as God?

    Why is the Christian faith so vastly different to its 1st century incarnation?

    God doesn't change but humans do and did god create man in the likeness of himself?

    For me after reading and researching over the years its pretty apparent man created God in the likeness of himself!

    I view creationists as people who create a God so they can rationalise man to be much more than reality. If you think about it, the ego is truly astonishing.

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  • LizardSkin

    I find often that many atheists love to place emphasis on certain talking points which have no merit if they actually did their research.

    For example, many of them love to go to this particular argument; If God is all loving then why does he "let" people on earth suffer? Well, this is answered explicitly answered in the Bible.

    I find a large portion of atheists are just ignorant kids, who are uninterested in religion so they call themselves atheists, rather than being actual proponents against the existence of God.

    In order to be genuine opposition, you kind of need some knowledge of the subject you oppose.

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  • daydreamer394

    Somebody gets it!
    My brain literally does not conceive how people can generalise /anybody/. It surely opposes the fundamentals of common sense.

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  • derpyderp

    I really don't understand the point of this post.
    Of course it's normal to think that not all atheists are smart.

    I don't think anyone really believes that do they?

    A lot of incredibly intelligent people are also a bit eccentric or "crazy" & tend to enjoy their own company above that of others.
    This doesn't mean that all loners & mentally unstable people are geniuses.

    I'm sure some religious people are extremely smart &/or well educated & some atheists are total dipshits.

    If there was a survey or study done I doubt the average intelligence of the atheist community would be dramatically higher than that of any religious group.

    Beliefs & intelligence are not related in any way in my opinion.

    One thing I will say is I suppose it may make sense that atheists are more likely to be open-minded people (obviously not blinded by beliefs) who question things a lot & improve their knowledge while looking for answers?

    By the way I am not at all religious so this isn't me getting my back up due to feeling attacked, simply my unbiased opinion...

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    • hades

      Proof that intelligent people can be crazy. I have an IQ of 145, yet I also have 5 mental illnesses.

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  • golden_showers

    too long to read

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  • Crvsades

    Why do these kind of posts always begin with something like:
    "I'm not trying to say that" Or "I have nothing against.."
    or " Don't get me wrong, i don't mean disrespect" etc.

    Who the fuck cares if you're gonna offend people? Why the fuck is there a need to apologize in advance for something you will say? I mean, if people will feel offended because of a simple opinion, then might as well not say anything at all if you worry so much about some oversensitive people's emotional comfort.
    Cause in the end you're still gonna offend someone regardless.

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    • Better to warn them to put their umbrella up before I rain on their parade.

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  • stuartiannaylor

    I do, like how stupid do you need to be to believe in God?

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    • Stupid enough to become the first neurosurgeon ever to separate craniopagus twins.

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      • stuartiannaylor

        Considering that the operation was performed in the 40's/50's, I guess also dumb enough to write that.

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        • It was 1987.

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          • stuartiannaylor

            Guess what you are saying is an act of faith.

            Because you said you where the first which isn't true, like God I would have to be stupid to believe you.

            In 1973, Ben Carson made medical history by being the first surgeon in the entire world to successfully separate conjoined twins (the Binder twins) conjoined at the back of the head (craniopagus twins).

            The first attempts like I say where in the 40s/50s where only one survived.

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            • It appears that you are the one who is doing the act of faith, because I actually did some research.

              Ben Carson didn't even finish med school until 1977. And the last time I checked, he was married during the time he did the surgery. He only married in 1975. The Binder twin operation took place in September 1987.

              Though yes, I do know that there was an attempt in the 1950's. However, I was referring to fully successful attempts, in which Ben Carson was the first to do so. Lotti Knaack died in the 50's attempt. Johann and Stefan Rausch are still very much alive.

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