I find many christians to be utterly ignorant

To put this straight, I am talking about several Christians and not Chritianity as a whole. I do not hate Christianity or any humans, and I do not want to judge people. But I feel that a whole bunch of Christians act like clueless sheep who use their gut rather than their head or making an effort to understand what the scriptures mean.

Rather than using solid arguments and understanding what the scriptures really mean to judge something as a sin or not, they say stuff like "Because it looks disgusting and creepy and therefore God hates it" and then use Bible verses that are sentimentally pleasing and not necessarily as defense.

For example, I see Christians saying that oral sex within marriage is a sin simply because they think it looks gross and because it's not beautiful, as if they have the authority to say what beautiful and what is ugly. I mean I won't complain if they use solid evidence to say it is a sin like how Catholics bring up the Catechism's teaching that sex is supposed to be "open to life" (which oral sex is not) or if they conclude with at least some thought that it falls under the sodomy law, but I find it really irritating when they say it's a sin simply because it is different and looks ugly to them. Also, I see them say stuff like the reason why sex before marriage is a sin is because it isn't romantic, when marriage in Christian times had absolutely nothing to do with the current I-love-you-and-I-want-to-spend-the-rest-of-my-life-with-and-cherishing-you attitude about marriage - it was about all protection, resources and children up until the 18th century. Yes I can probably say that sex without tying the knot is a sin in Christianity but it is the clueless arguments against it that annoy me rather than the ruling. Or another example is that how some Christians think that wolves and snakes are intrinsically evil simply because the Bible used them as metaphors for evil.

This goes the other way too, with many Christians saying stuff like how some things are NOT sins without using anything but their own personal feelings. For example, I see people saying stuff like "Gay sex not a sin because God is a loving god and he wouldn't impose boring rules like that". Sorry, but if the Bible already says it is then it is a sin according to Christianity unless you can conclusively prove that the verse was taken out of context. I do not take a stance whether or not Christianity actually says it is a sin or not, but again, it is the arguments which are all sentimental fluff and lack Biblically sound arguments.

Again, I realize that not every Christian is like this, but I feel that there are way too many illogical sentimental Christians who don't know a thing about what their faith actually means. I am not taking it out on Christianity or Christians in general, but the attitude taken up by many Christian individuals.

P.S. I am not a religious individual.

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  • anti-hero

    Same shit, different day.

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    • NeuroNeptunian

      Same shit, different toilet.

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      • VirgilManly

        I don't want to know how you moved it from one bowl to the next.

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        • NeuroNeptunian

          Pinch it off and crab walk sideways.

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          • VirgilManly

            ...and that boys ad girls, is how they make flaky crab cakes.

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          • Riddler

            Ahahahahahahaha

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        • iEatZombies_

          Hopefully she has thumbs. It would be messy without those.

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        • EccentricWeird

          Simple. She do half a shit in one bowl and half a shit in the other. Mathematics.

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    • I thought the same thing over and over again was "I hate Christians/Christianity and I think it's bullshit". This is just what I think of several prevalent attitudes within the Christian community.

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      • anti-hero

        It's been done.

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      • Riddler

        You seem to believe everyone is interpreting the same. There is a basic set of rules but some of these rules are interpreted differently depending on the person.

        Some rules are even dropped or simply altered given the church or the time. If church is too hard to get to on Saturday they move it to Sunday and yes SATURDAY is suppose to be the church day not Sunday.

        Some people might take this stuff metaphorically some more literally if you think about it the bible gives some vague descriptions of some of this stuff.

        Also depending on which book you follow and there is so many now you may or may not believe Gays go to hell. Since it was not mentioned by Jesus in the new testament but it was in the Old testament. Though even if a Christian does not believe in homosexuality it does not mean they necessarily hate homosexuals either.

        There is even the argument on weather or not going to church is a requirement. Some people don't believe church is needed to worship god and some Christians don't even attend church.

        You are going under the assumption that all churches are going to follow what you believe they should. When they all seem to set different rules and codes for each individual church.

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    • kingofcarrotflowers

      Ah, blissfully ignorant of the relevance of that statement :)

      You see, I often visit IIN if I don't have bathroom reading material.

      Do with that information as you please, for some reason I felt like sharing

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      • anti-hero

        *Shiver*

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        • kingofcarrotflowers

          * puts hands on hips, turns head away, and struts *

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          • anti-hero

            ^ Funniest thing to my mind's eye in months.

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  • orinoco

    I find many non-christians utterly ignorant. IIN?

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    • roadflasher

      I find many atheists to be utterly rude, insensitive and non-tolerant of anyone that disagrees with them. IIN?

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    • And so do I.

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  • Energy

    Religion isn't black and white. You can be gay and still Christian. There are christians I've met who believe the bible was written by men, for men, therefore isn't true Christianity.

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  • I can feel the rage coming from people who will misread and misinterpret my post.

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    • kingofcarrotflowers

      I'll make a prediction,

      Outrage, both people offended and people agreeing ( lead to arguments)

      Those ( including me) saying that the question has been asked far too many times before

      A certain user will drop in and offend both believers and non believers ( you probably know who I mean)

      And an unrelated conversation about tacos will also make an appearance

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      • kingofcarrotflowers

        How great are tacos btw

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        • anti-hero

          Fucking amazing those tacos.

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          • thegypsysailor

            I wish I could get a good (actually even a bad) taco down here. It's been years. Why don't the Mexicans immigrate to countries that don't have tacos, and open taco shops, so we can get tacos everywhere?
            Come on you Mexicans, California is full already; sneak into the Caribbean Island countries, so your friendly, old, nearly senile, capitan buddy, can have a taco once in a while!

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          • kingofcarrotflowers

            I know right

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        • iEatZombies_

          Soft tacos? Hardshell? C'mon, details.

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          • kingofcarrotflowers

            Hard tacos, with chillie and salad :)

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      • RoseIsabella

        I've always been more then bean burrito type myself.

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        • thegypsysailor

          If I weren't a gentleman....

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        • kingofcarrotflowers

          You know, I've never really had burritos before outside crappy supermarket ones, might make some

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          • RoseIsabella

            I recently started making refried beans from scratch so I always want to have burritos. My beans are pretty good for a gringa, or so I've been told.

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          • anti-hero

            Basically a big soft shell taco with sauce on top.

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          • Doritos locos tacos are yummy...

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            • kingofcarrotflowers

              Argh, you Americans have the best food haha :p

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      • Jfdp

        Don't forget Godwins law - at some time , somewhere in the argument someone will mention hitler or the Nazis

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        • roadflasher

          I only learned of Godwin's law a few weeks ago. i think it's hilarious. It is absolutely true.

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        • kingofcarrotflowers

          Pfft please, that's such a stupid theory, coming in here with your sweeping generalizations, that's what Hitler would do

          Haha :p

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          • Jfdp

            Lol - nice one

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  • halfemptyhalffull

    The whole Bible is "make it up as you go" ....unless you think heaven has a FAX machine and God sent it down way back when.

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  • green_boogers

    Many people believe in comic books. Christianity fits this shazam fantastic type of story so that comic book believers are not left out.

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  • satansdisciples

    Im a theistic Satanist,so of course im going to say I hate all Christians,Their all ignorant,They all unknowingly take there own gods name in vain,and they are all blind followers.Im happy to say I worship the true creator of knowledge "Satan".Satana ha vito "Satan has won".

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  • jlivingston923

    The "Christians" you are posting about are actually self-titled Christians, people that are not actually saved by God's grace and unconditional election, but simply state that they believe one or two things in the Bible. The stereotypes created from these imposters are the greatest obstacle for professing Christians. You're pretty much spot on with how they are. But that only means you haven't yet met a true believer.

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  • xov._

    If GOD says its a sin its a sin no matter what anyone else says, JESUS died on the Cross for all sins past present and future so whoever Repented( change of mind not change of life, ackowleding your a sinner that deserves hell then realizes you need a Saviour and He is JESUS CHRIST) and become Born Again(puts FAITH in JESUS CHRIST alone for Salvation, Forgiveness of sins then you go to HEAVEN

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    • That's not the point. If the God of Christianity says it's a sin then yes it is a sin. However, there are many Christians that tend to say "If I think it looks ugly it must be a sin".

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    • jlivingston923

      All of what you have just stated says that YOU are making choices and things like that. This is incorrect according to the word of God. Jesus died for God, not humanity. Jesus' death only covers the sins of those who are believers called by God unconditionally. Then you end it with going to heaven, which isn't the goal of a Christian. It's to use the time we have been granted by God to do His works. Also this comment isn't all that relevant to the topic of this post/story.

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      • roadflasher

        You are absolutely and completely wrong.

        Jesus died *SO THAT* the sins of ALL could be forgiven. That means that all who go to heaven do so through the sacrifice of the Cross. They are not part of an elite group. Have a look at Zechariah 9:9-10. The prophecy of the Messiah is that he will come to redeem the entire world, not just a select few.

        Jesus did not die for God. Jesus is God. He is the second person of the Trinity. He is a distinct person in the Holy Trinity, along with the Father and the Holy Spirit. He died to redeem humanity from their own sinfulness.

        The goal of a Christian is absolutely to get to heaven. Paul tells us in Romans 12:2 not to conform ourselves to this age (or world, depending on translation). The central message in Jesus' own preaching was to repent because the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand.

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  • justanotherPOVtoshare

    The book song of Solomon in the bible talks a lot about getting busy In the bedroom and a lot of other things that are a little freaky as I put it. But it definitely doesn't say in those words it's more poetic like two people who are madly in love and don't care how silly it looks to anyone.

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  • green_boogers

    Warped superegos, warped from the powers of logic and science. How sad.

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    • Warped for having a brain.

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  • MegaPaw

    I understand that you're not judging Christians as a whole. As a religious person myself, I've always understood that oral and anal sex is wrong because it's for the enjoyment of the flesh only, and not to create life, as sex was originally intended. It's part of the whole keeping one's eyes from worldly things, and things of the flesh deal. But I agree that a lot of Christians are ignorant, even twist the words of the bible to further their goals, or defend their actions. Personally, I know in my heart what's right and wrong, and will live my life well, treat others as I want to be treated, with compassion, and care about my fellow people. If in the end it's not enough, so be it.

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  • RegGuy

    I agree with you. There are a lot of Christians who make it up as they go.

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    • Jfdp

      I know I did. (Agnostic now)

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  • handsignals

    I was in Westboro the other day and this chick told me God hates fags and I was like "God's homophobic! Not Cool".

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  • CoraCook

    You read it?

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  • disthing

    Oh well.

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