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Thank god the backlash has started. And even better the over the top political correct brigade either hasn't noticed or don't know what to say or have realized there is nothing to say. They have had their silly run and now it's time to get back to living in the real world and get on with the important things in life - Peace and Love:)
The “woke” tribe has attempted to shame and bully others into their belief system. You cannot force people to agree with you, only to pretend to, at best.
There’s always a counter cultural backlash to big movements, look at the 80’s putting the nail in the hippie coffin.
Woke movement is not achieving much other than dividing people. This is what power brokers in multiple industries want, all about easier control. People are unwittingly helping evil every step of the way. Group think, encouraged by the woke media, is the devil influencing those who trade helpful discernment for some sort of pathetic emotional validation.
Play on their hearts so they’ll stop using their heads.
Gen Z are the most conservative generation since the boomers. I can only imagine generation Alpha or whatever will be more conservative as a counter culture.
Turns out all those punk rockers I knew in highschool immediately turned into authority boot lickers. It's now counter culture to love america.
I think the main reason why theres such a backlash NOW rather than for the past few years is because the progressives showed their hand during the lockdowns. Parents being able to see the kind of crap the teachers were indoctrinating their kids too.
Not to mention the seemingly tone deaf democrats ranting about race issues when we are facing the greatest inflation crisis in modern times. That breaks the average person out of the medias grasp, when cnn is saying everything is just fine in joe bidens america. When their food and gas is increasing in price.
Now biden has the gall to put vaccine restrictions on trucking that if it will be enforced we could see up to 40% of the truckers leaving making the 80,000 trucker shortage worse and pretty much guaranteeing the starvation of cities.
In England there was a serious problem a few weeks ago because during lockdown many truckers found different jobs which were easier/better and paid more so they didn't go back to their trucker jobs. Then their was a petrol shortage because there was a shortage of drivers to deliver fuel to the gas stations.
In america that problem gets worse because of our larger size and more spaced out towns and cities.
I'm going into trucking in fact. Im just held up by my past smoking of weed and that they test for it in your hair. So 3 months and I can get on the road.
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I get what you are saying and i agree about why now and not before. But, and this is great, the backlash I'm talking about is not only in the US i watch mainstream media from Austrailia (they never got as afraid to speak out against the crazies but the crazies are there all the same) the UK and other wealthy first world countries-because this really is a first world problem ;)
Yeah, I've noticed the pendulum starting to swing the other way too. The cultural left has just gotten so crazy that people are turning against it.
Thankfully influential people are turning against it. I've noticed this the last couple of weeks and it seems to be gaining momentum. People are just tired of it and have seen that the fear of speaking out this last few years has let the craziness go to far. We too, the general public, need to stand up for ourselves and dont fear these people.
I think if I had to audibly hear you people say the same thing that I have to visually read everyday on this website I’d put 16 bullets in my chest
I see it as just getting worse because they're teaching it in the school curriculum now. Look into critical race theory and gender studies. Thats just in K-12 the colleges are even worse.
I hear you, but thankfully some influential(real peopl) people have started to speak out against it, worldwide, in the last few weeks. Hopefully this will grow . I havnt time now to say who im talking about cause im working but off the top of my head Candice Owens had a pop at that CRT crap that you mentioned . Thats on youtube last few days. Joe Rogen has become more outspoken about it also many other comedians. Soŕry examples later i have to get back to work.
Agreed some more people are finally speaking up against it saying we shouldn't accept it as the norm because it's twisted, inaccurate and illogical.
I think the problem was everyone was too afraid to speak out against it so when some gathered the courage to speak out against it, more followed.
It was almost like we were living in a state of oppression for a while where those who didn't accept the stupidity enforced by the "woke" people were shunned despite their logical views whilst the illogical ones tried to eliminate any logic by making it out to be discrimination.
At this point I'm considering that group of people to be closer to nazi sympathizers than actual neonazis. They want everything the nazis wanted just instead of a german ethno state it's a state without conservatives or anyone with a problem against state control. Skin tone is no longer the issue rather its solely a political party wanting to take over the entire country it's in by being as caustic as physically possible to those who disagree.
I'm not hoping for a civil war but so far they are making a peaceful divorce seem impossible.
Nothing else in the comment was worth responding to, it was nonsense that I had already previously debunked.
You completely missed the point of the rape analogy. In an ACCURATE rape analogy, Kyle Rittenhouse is the rapist. He was the bad actor, he was the aggressor. He committed a crime and then “defended” himself from people trying to stop him from committing more crimes. That’s not how self defense works.
If you honestly believe there’s any evidence he acted in self defense, you’re delusional beyond discussion. Have a great day.
Have you seen the sjw backlash about the case though. I swear it's like the chauvin case all over again. This time though the defense has video evidence on their side.
I think that would be a decent comment thread. Would be more fun than a boring what shirt looks best post.
Idk could you make another post about this? I would do it myself but I've been banned from posting apparently
Is kyle innocent? Boom you got yourself a 50+ comment thread.
Ok, let’s go with the rape analogy, except let’s actually make it an accurate comparison.
A rapist breaks into the house of a married couple. In the process of attempting to rape the wife, the husband interrupts. Naturally, the husband attacks the rapist. The rapist then shoots the husband and claims it was self defense because the husband was attacking him. Was the rapist actually acting in self defense? Of course not. Was the husband a victim? Of course.
Stay woke is such bullshit! Hell, it's not even proper grammar.
I say, why stay woke when you can have a lovely cup of herbal tea, and sleep peacefully. 😘👍🏻
You know what I hate? That tattoos are too mainstream. Tattoos used to be a subculture for biker squads And those who served, but now Steeve the barista has 6 of em. They have lost some form of meaning
Agreed. Did you hear about the activist judge in the Kyle Rittenhouse case who decided it’s not “politically correct” to use the word “victims” to describe the people he shot and killed? Wokeness is truly out of control.
I hadnt heard about that but maybe he was against using the word victims out of respect for the victims. Now you see im even going soft on the woke freaks by giving them an out...
He said it was a “loaded” word and wouldn’t even let them be referred to as “alleged victims.” But he’s fine with them being referred to as rioters, arsonists, and looters if it can be proven they did those things. Even though those are loaded words too, and even though it’s already been proven that they’re victim since, you know, they’re dead and all.
You should read up on the judge though, he showed the same kind of wokeness earlier this year when he let Rittenhouse get away with registering a P.O. Box instead of his real address because he claimed he was getting “death threats” instead of having him arrested and raising his bond like he should’ve if he wasn’t so politically correct.
I guess I should’ve put a trigger warning on this comment lol.
To everybody arguing it was self defense or whatever: that’s for an impartial jury of his peers to decide, not an activist judge trying to push his agenda down our throats.
Well victims implies that's they were just simply passerbys that got caught up into being shot. The victims were shown to have been arsonists and rioters during the events that led up to the shooting. So using rioter and arsonist as descriptors are apt in this situation as that's what they were doing before trying to disarm a man with a ar15.
Speaking of which the one living victim said publically that their only regret was that they didnt kill Kyle with his gun. So that validates Kyle's defense with being in genuine fear for his life during the shooting.
Last I checked this is America where people are innocent until proven guilty and none of the people he shot have had their day in court, so calling them rioters or arsonists would clearly violate their constitutional rights. A victim, on the other hand, can mean a wide range of things. Including “ a person harmed, injured, or killed as a result of a crime, accident, or other event or action” according to Oxford. I mean, you yourself called the person who lived a victim in the next paragraph, so clearly they’re all victims.
But yeah, if somebody shot me, my regret would be that I didn’t kill them first. Hindsight is a hell of a drug.
Yes but the prosecution wanted the people shot be solely called victims instead of their other identifiers by the defense which in the context of the defense is a valid descriptor of said people shot.
People shot doesnt roll off the tounge as well as victims, arsonist, and rioters. All of which are now descriptors the prosecutors and defense will be using in the court.
If a murderer was shot the defense would be valid labeling the murder as a murderer rather than the victim.
Victim gives the prosecution an advantage in perception to the jury. Something the defense is aware of thus they wanted to use alternative descriptors that were just as valid as victims.
You can be a victim but also be a murder, rapist, arsonist, rioter etc. Allowing the defense to use said language is fair to the current trial about self defense against attacking rioters and arsonists.
The judge isn’t allowing the prosecution to call them victims, or even alleged victims. He’s allowing the defense to use the words that give them an advantage in perception to the jury but not allowing the prosecution to use the word that most accurately describes them.
Even if there was any evidence that any of them were rioters or arsonists, it would only be fair to call them that if it was relevant to what happened, which it isn’t. He didn’t shoot them because they were rioting or committing arson, he shot them because they were trying to stop him from committing crimes. So they were simply good samaritans, in the context of the shooting, regardless of what else they supposedly did before the shooting.
He shot them because they were trying to take his gun. Taking a gun from someone who is armed is taken as a deadly threat because someone can use that same gun to shoot you with it.
So kyle killed these guys because they were actively trying to hurt or kill him. These people where acting as vigilantes trying to disarm an armed guy not 200 feet from police instead of going to the police to get their assistance.
You have ZERO duty to be a hero in this case. You run away and give statements. Because he was running away he didnt pose a threat to other people.
Heres an example:
You are beating down on a dude. That's assault. You then run away when the dude was winning. Disconnecting from the assault and running away from the scene because of the counterattack is a valid legal thing to do. The other guy now has zero right to go after you not to mention kill you for your previous altercation. You are still a suspect in a assault case but that doesnt withdraw your right to self defense as a individual citizen.
It's what separates the power of the police from a bystander. The ability to give legal orders.
Well I would move the hell out in that case.
The kind of people that are willfully going along with it are the same type of people who would of joined hand and hand with the nazis. It's not an exaggeration, the nazis got into power through emergency power acts and started to do gross goverment overreach.
It's starting:)
Keep an eye on this thread, when i get a chance I'll post some links from last couple weeks. High profile people biting back:)
Rittenhouse is facing charges of first degree intentional homicide, first degree reckless homicide charge, and attempted first degree intentional homicide. A person who is intentionally or recklessly murdered by another person is a victim.
Rittenhouse hasn't been found guilty yet. Thus they are not his victims. It's not accurate to classify the dead individuals as victims if their own actions contributed to their deaths.
Victims of a hero complex at best.
Yeah dont disarm someone who is sprinting towards police already. What a lesson here.
Kyle shown some SERIOUS gun discipline here. Like veteran from the army kind of discipline he only shot the guys that posed a deadly imminent threat. He didnt shoot the still living guy when he raised his arms in surrender (with a 9mm in his hand which he then immediately tried to use on kyle)
The people he shot haven’t been found guilty of rioting or arson either. You can’t have it both ways.
It's a cut and dry self defense case. Running for your life and only shooting your active aggressors is a justifiable use of self defense in wisconsin. He retreated, the victims went to grab the his gun. Shooting the victims are completely justified use of force.
The weapon possession charge is the only foreseeable case. Not the homicide in self defense.
Lol no. He shot somebody completely unprovoked and then shot more people who wouldn’t let him get away with it. That’s not self defense. You don’t get to defend yourself from people who are trying to stop you from committing a crime.
Unprovoked? You sure as hell never saw the videos.
"You don’t get to defend yourself from people who are trying to stop you from committing a crime." What crime was that? Homicide? Because he already stopped shooting and was running to turn himself in already. Thus that crime wasnt ongoing as he was running away. In Wisconsin law, someone who just committed a crime has the right to self defense when their life is in danger just like everyone else. It's not self defense to try to kill someone else because they shot another guy in self defense.