I just want to argue about politics and still be civil

Like, is that too much to ask? I just want to be able to disagree with someone about something and have a discussion about it without people wanting to kill each other.

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  • Tommythecaty

    Good luck with that one lol.

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  • bbrown95

    I definitely wish it was easier to have civil debates with people on any subject. Too many people take it as a personal attack and get offended, though. It is possible to disagree on a subject and discuss it civilly and respectfully, while giving the other person a fair chance to explain their point of view and actually being open to trying to understand where they're coming from, even if you don't agree with it.

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    • In my experience, it's not just about people taking it as a personal attack, but actually making it a personal attack.

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      • bbrown95

        That's true as well.

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  • DADNSCAL

    You’re already settling yourself up for failure by wanting to argue. You may discuss politics in a civil manner with someone who is inclined to do the same, but when it degenerates to an argument you may as well just be ark it off.

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    • An argument is just a discussion where you disagree or try to convince the other person of something. Nothing wrong with that.

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  • olderdude-xx

    Yes its possible; but you have to be willing to admit that the other side likely has valid points; and the other side has to admit the same.

    Then the goal of the discussion is to learn about things you have not considered... and find a better opinion.

    In reality - the people who can do this are the people who really move the world ahead because they come up with better solutions to issues... and attract support from multiple sides because their compromise is based on meeting somewhere in the middle.

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    • DADNSCAL

      No no no. An arguement is a rational discussion that degenerates into both sides being so entrenched in their positions they stop listening to each other and no productive communication takes place.

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    • But what if, hypothetically, they don't have valid points?

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      • olderdude-xx

        I've never met anyone who did not have at least one or two valid points.

        For starters. They are human and are trying to do the best they know how based on what they know and were taught.

        If you can acknowledge that, and get you to acknowledge the same for you - then you have the basis to work on educating each other about the issue from each of your viewpoints.

        It really works well when you can get the other party to start researching specific things that each of you believe are facts - or mostly true. I've had to agree a number of times that what I thought was a fact was more of a myth... and they have done the same as well.

        It's a long process... but it does work, and I'm a much better person for having engaged in it a number of times. My viewpoints have shifted substantially on a number of issues over the years because I am better informed on certain issues.

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  • donteatstuffoffthesidewalk

    why?

    its fuckin pointless

    its the same tired shit over and over and over and over

    bein the best debater havin the most cogent arguments & legit soundin statistics dont mean youre even remotely right or not a dangerous lunatic

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  • 1WeirdGuy

    Discord Politics you can have good conversations on there. Just mute the ones that start that

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  • momgetthecamera

    samesies but some people just want to fight tbh

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  • Politics is all about mud slinging.

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