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The older I get (early 30s), the more I hate men. They are annoying. They are stupid and/or say stupid things. They are responsible for most violent crime. They have no attention spans and attention to detail,
The only thing they are good for it seems, are to do construction and lend women sperm to make babies.
People may disagree with me or say I’m being a fruit when I say this but ;
If you, as a non-man, look at how the media presents men, look at how online men act (incel culture, “meninist” shit), and look at current statistics of men’s crime rate - I don’t think this conclusion is that surprising.
Do I think this conclusion is wrong ? Yes.
Do I see where it’s coming from ? Absolutely.
I think bitterness does serious damage to men. And I think many men are very, very, bitter. And the way we are handling our bitterness is very self destructive and juvenile. Porn is killing us outright. If I was a woman (hell, even as a man) and I logged onto a porno site and saw what is being portrayed as “the male fantasy” I’d be appalled.
I think media is playing a massive role in demonizing men. I mean holy shit. How many fiction films do we need of dudes kidnapping random women ? How many S/A scenes do we need to be shown ? It’s as if they are trying to train women to fear men at an unrealistic rate.
I read an article recently about how the “Remember to bring your knives ladies !” “Be alert at all times !” “Anybody could be a trafficker !” Does more psychological damage than it does actual prevention of attacks. You are far far more likely to be assaulted/trafficked/harassed by someone you know than this fear of a random person grabbing you off the street.
There was a recent video of an absolutely insane incel freak stalking a woman and it went majorly viral. Everyone should be able to see this man is deranged and socially impaired - yet bitter men jumped to his rescue for no reason other than they didn’t like a man being bashed online.
How does this make us look ?
It is easy to say people shouldn’t generalize. But as human fault, we almost all do. I don’t agree, but I’m not surprised by it.
Also heh heh heh because now I’m having fun being a bully
Dudes online always create this ‘super macho, hard labor, soldier, traditional, family man who supports for his 14 kids and stay at home wife’ figure as their “male representative” for how much haaaarder life is for men.
What percentage of the population do these guys make up these days ?
Pretty sure the working class difference in gender is within 10% these days. And both of you are working in a chair the whole time.
These Andrew Tate online incels all look like they weigh less than a wool coat, jack off to anime porno all day, and smoke weed in their parents basement blyat
Ladies these fools don’t speak for men
No sperm for you. My future offspring both boys and girls, deserve a better mother than you could ever be.
All men are different to one another, all women are different to one another.
Incredibly stupid generalisations, saying stupid things, op must be a man 🥴
The easiest way to let this go is to not think collectively about people, people are wondrous and unique, and can definitely surprise you! I can’t count how many times my first impressions have been wrong. Remember by giving respect you get respect and if your mind is already made up to see negative you’re only going to see negative traits that reinforce your view. That which you focus on, expands. Concentrate on the individual, be open, hate is not good for your heart. You got this 🙂
Let's change this up and see if it suddenly becomes offensive...
"The older I get (early 30s), the more I hate [black people]. They are annoying. They are stupid and/or say stupid things. They are responsible for most violent crime. They have no attention spans and attention to detail,
The only thing they are good for it seems, are to do construction and lend women sperm to make babies."
Sexual differentiation is far more significant than racial differentiation, bad comparison
Good to know that prejudice and biased hostility is totally fine so long as it's based on sex. I bet a lot of incels use that exact logic
The reasons a male would have antipathy towards women are completely different than vice versa, another false comparison. Personally I don't hate men, but I sympathize with women who do because, understandable tbh.
You're not wrong. If a woman hates a man or multiple men, there's usually a much more concrete reason for it than a man who hates a woman/multiple women. Despite the untrue stereotype that women are overly emotional, when men are asshurt over something they're the ones who overreact and overexaggerate
Without them everything that allows you to survive collapses around you. Your only job is to make more men.
I would say get back in the kitchen but I'm not going to because all the best chefs are men too
Yeah, pretty fucking ironic that we're better than them at even the most stereotypically womanly thing in existence. LOL
What's ironic is that women are expected to take up the domestic duty of cooking but discouraged from taking it up as a profession. How's your cooking skills btw?
How unfair that a woman be encouraged to take care of her own children at home. Its much more empowering her to work 40 hour weeks and then come home and stay up all night with a crying baby.
First of all I never said anything about children, childless women and girls are still expected to know how to cook for themselves, siblings, family, boyfriends etc.
Secondly. If a woman wants to work and take care of her children and can do so, that's her right. It doesn't matter if you think it sounds good or not. It's also not unreasonable for the father to get up during the night and help the crying baby.
Idk about professional chefs but there are a lot of failmales out there who can't cook for themselves because they aren't expected to learn. I've been cooking all my own food since I was 14 years old and assisting in the kitchen since I was 10. My brother, who is a teenager, wouldn't know how to boil water 😂
It's normal, but I think you're a misandrist if you think all men are bad. I think men can be good, like their donations to charity, and being brave giving blood, it's all good, says me who spent years studying morality.
We're only good for construction? Nah, not only that. Without us, Comedy, Sports and Music would be garbage.
I know the feeling.
I just know too many women who have sons and love them, and have brought them up well. It's tempting to say, 'the mothers' sons I know are okay but the others mostly act like jerks'. Could it be said that men have the potential to do many great things and many terrible things?
It’s kind of tough. I feel like men have always been so open about disliking women and saying how we’re emotional and bitches. But you express your opinion about men and they’re all so offended. lol.
Lol at the ""more logical gender"" in these comments absolutely coping. You're right anon 👍
Women who hate men, and men who hate women are two sides of the same coin.
"Trying to conflate Sharia Law with the Abortion topic isn't appropriate as they aren't mutually inclusive"
Sharia law and certain anti-abortion laws are both laws that harm women, I never said abortion was literally sharia ...
"you're taking a small minority of men to justify hatred towards the entirety of a group."
So it's ok to hate those men that do want to take women's rights away, right? Agreed?
"who consumes legal content being sold to them by people legally producing that content is not relevant in regards to who creates that content"
The fact that women are coerced into sex work (because of the male demand), i.e being groomed into starting an OnlyFans at 18 to pay for college, doesn't help your point. My issue is with the people that cause the content to exist in the first place, not those that produce it. That's how supply and demand works — the demand dictates the supply.
"You don't get to dictate what is and isn't allowed solely on if it's a need or a want."
If something isn't a necessity and causes significant harm to both the producer and the consumer, why should it be allowed.
"even the forms of porn that does not include the themes you highlight are a problem"
Yes because porn is impossible to regulate, you can't differentiate between what is "problematic" so easily.
"Incest, jailbait, and r*pecam isn't allowed on the mainstream porn sites"
Maybe it technically isn't "allowed" but videos have themes that are meant to stimulate these occurrences and normalize those ideas, even if it's just an act.
"one of the most popular themes WOMEN enjoy of pornography is r*pe play."
Gonna need a source for that one.
"We can separate fantasy from morals so long as it remains as a fantasy indulged in a controlled space with consenting adults"
Eventually it will leak over into everyday life and behavior. Look at people being "vanilla shamed" because they don't want to engage in fetish weirdness with their partner.
"the overwhelming majority of men are not criminal"
For the last time! The discrepancy between male and female incidences of criminality are reflective of male mentality, even among noncriminal males. I'm done explaining this.
"This would only allow women enduring Sharia Law to hate the men enforcing Sharia law."
Yes, along with any man enforcing laws that discriminate towards women, like those in the west advocating to criminalize abortion in the case of rape or disability. In extreme cases, some men want to take away our right to vote.
"Doesn't matter who it is mostly"
How could this not be relevant?
"without foul play, that doesn't mean it endorses the foul play unless you consume the media knowing it to be the case."
For products that you actually need, like food or clothing, sure. But no one needs porn. You are condoning the porn industry when you support it. Ignoring the implications of that is cognitive dissonance
"Porn does not promote sexual violence unless it is part of a fetish."
I thought promoting incest, jailbait, and rapecam material was mainstream?
"People are entitled to their fetishes"
And how do you think having a violent fetish will reflect on that person's character and relationships.
"male porn stars are in porn too."
Yeah and I feel bad for them too. However, it's still men who perpetuate and are responsible for the issue, as they are the primary consumers.
"People like to be sexually entertained"
No1curr, people got by without porn for thousands of years, you can cope.
"If we both agree that a small minority of men can't be used to justify hatred of all men"
Again, I don't hate men. I just dislike them and think they are inferior. Propensity towards criminality is a reason for this, which is valid because most criminals are men. Even men that are not criminals have a more similar mentality to male criminals than female non-criminals, with the potential to go apeshit.
"because theres a different reason you have these feelings and it's not the ones you gave."
Incorrect.
Wtf is "mentally anorexic" supposed to mean? Yeah it's retarded to call manual labor "building civilization" civilization is a set of cultural values and ideals, it's not made of brick and mortar. Yeah making buildings, a task of menial labor, is something men are competent at. Congrats. You will all get a medal for your accomplishments when a day goes by where a man doesn't rape a woman!
1. nOt AlL mEn yeah no shit, but on a social level — men as a social class are doing this to women as a social class. There's no disputing this.
"You are equal under the law"
So the millions of women living under sharia law don't matter I guess.
"Men and women watch pornography"
It's mostly men.
"willing participants"
Even if you can be 100% sure the people in porn videos aren't being sex trafficked, raped, exploited as minors, or filmed without consent (you can't be) porn still normalizes sexual violence. Cucking yourself to porn isn't the way to understanding sex, which should be a private, emotional experience.
"On a societal scale only a small minority of men are violent criminals"
Yes, but the majority of those few violent criminals ARE men, without men crime rates would be much reduced. This by itself isn't a reason to dislike men, but the propensity towards violence, anger, sense of entitlement etc. (which can culminate in crime in extreme cases) that is a uniquely male phenomena is unquestionably an undesirable characteristic.
Jeez dude, I was giving you the benefit of doubt because I didn't think anyone would be retarded enough to pretend being better at construction elevates the male sex kek. By all means do the manual labor, as OP said it's one of the few things men are good for. No one's objecting to that.
Look at my window? I live across the street from a degenerate moid who walks around exposing himself. Yet another degenerate male.
I didn't realize that by "building civilization" you meant performing unskilled labor. So yes, my rhetoric did change as I realized the actual intent of your statement. I am actually fine with manual labor being male-only.
1. Men perpetuate systematic harm towards women when they mock us in our pursuit of equal treatment, watch pornography, or treat the women in their lives as lesser. Most men do at least one of these things. On a societal scale, men do more explicitly, physically violent things against women.
2. You completely missed my post? TLDR. Not all generalizations are equal. Some have merit because there is evidence backing it up. Others do not.
There's a difference between truth and validity. There are valid reasons to dislike men — the systematic harm they as a social class do to women. There are invalid reasons to dislike men, such as personal experience, which is not unimportant, but not something you should generalize on. But whether your reasoning is valid or invalid, subjective or not, women who dislike men have all arrived at the same truth. And I sympathize with that view, even if I don't think a particular individual has sound reasoning to go with it.
It's entirely different when someone has a view that is both false and invalid, because then there's nothing to be sympathetic towards.
Still posting their Ls and copes. For instance, you wrote that "men built civilization" like it's a flex when men are responsible for excluding women from participating in society for most of recorded history. It's like you can't think critically, or are just, as I said, coping
Sure, FST is one factor. There's also mental/emotional functioning, criminality, and such where there is a greater difference between men and women than between any two races. And "European" and "African" are broad categories
I agree to a point. The older I got the more I realized how dumb most men were. But now, I'll be 30 in a few day, I realized it's not that they are dumb. It's that they don't think the way most women do. They don't see the world the way most women do. And because of that they say and do stuff I would consider dumb.
Ex; I gave my boyfriend a list of gift ideas for Christmas last year. One of the things on it was a step stool. Now we have recently gotten into a good space with money. So instead of a cheap pair of house shoes. He decided to get everything on the list and go as big as he can with it. It is not lost on me he was trying to be sweet but that step stool I asked for, well he got me basically a later. So now anytime I have to get something off the top shelve I have to haul around this thing that is as tall as me and weighs over 15 lbs I'm sure. That, I would consider dumb.
Even some of the conversations I have will men are annoying because they seem to say dumb stuff and can't understand what I am trying to say. But again, it's because they see it differently. Women are, hands down, better at understanding ppl. See throw thier eyes, walking in their shoes. Men, not so much. But they don't need to. Life is better if you let men thrive at what men are good at and women thrive at what they are good at
So you brainwashed your fiancee into hating women and not believing they deserve equal rights? What's wrong with you?