I want to be an lgbt ally but also conservative

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I do like working with LGBT people but the issue I have is most tend to have this ideology that only liberals love them and there are conservatives out there who like them also and have no problem. Issue I have is there are some people whome want to dictate to me that I have to think like them instead of agreeing to disagree. I don't have a problem with being gay, trans, etc. I can accept you are as you are but reciprocating that would be even better. Has this happened much?

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ThatOneGuyYouNeverWantToMeet

1 year ago | pl

You wouldn't be the first, there's a few actually who are right leaning or at the very least aren't left leaning.

Ruined Leon - bi sexual
Lady MAGA USA - gay drag queen
Marcus Dib AKA The Offensive Tranny - trans
Blaire White - trans
BrightenedBaby - trans
Arielle Scarcella - gay

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- LloydAsher
  
  1 year ago
  
  Milo Yiannopoulos Biggest gay supporter for daddy trump.
  
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    1 year ago
    
    Milo is mighty!
    
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- MonteMetcalfe
  
  1 year ago
  
  Rick Grenell- gay with a domestic partner, Acting Director of National Intelligence during the Trump administration.
  
  Catlin Jenner - Transexual republican
  
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1WeirdGuy

1 year ago

I dont have a problem with them for being gay I have a problem with them going after the kids which they are. They're teaching LGBT propaganda in different schools all over the USA there's a million cases I can send you and these LBGT people support this because they're sick.

In Cali gender studies in mandatory in sex ed. Theyve taken 3rd graders (8yo) to a gay bar. Minnesota did a "transgender audit" and told students not to tell their parents. They are actively trying to indoctrinate your kids and any teacher teaching that shit should be executed.

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- Clunk42
  
  1 year ago
  
  "But he that shall scandalize one of these little ones that believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone should be hanged about his neck, and that he should be drowned in the depth of the sea."
  - Matthew 18:6
  
  I agree that they deserve the death penalty.
  
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- momgetthecamera
  
  1 year ago
  
  It’s so…over the top. This stuff should be irrelevant to kids. As a homosexual i just want to be treated like a normal person. No parades with too much nudity, no ‘gender exploration’/grooming in schools, no pronoun tomfoolery. It’s so vain. Who cares what you want to stick in your mouth? Why is that something to be proud of?
  Most tik tok brainwashed people my age don’t even say women. They say ‘non men’. I’m not even allowed to say i like other women exclusively because there is no more ‘woman’ just ‘non men’, and ‘menstruators’…wtf?
  
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- LloydAsher
  
  1 year ago
  
  Or fired with their teaching license removed.
  
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  - 1WeirdGuy
    
    1 year ago
    
    Nah just get rid of them.
    
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    - LloydAsher
      
      1 year ago
      
      By the way, I just finished my driver training. I'll be able to get my training engineer in a few days.
      
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      - 1WeirdGuy
        
        1 year ago
        
        Im actually not familiar about the term training engineer. What is that?
        
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        LloydAsher
        
        1 year ago
        
        Fancy title for on the road trainer. Pretty much a 2 week apprentenceship. The begining training was just to see if I could handle climbing up a ladder and stand 15ft off the ground without guardrails. As well as not instantly die driving. And that I dont completely suck backing up.
        
        This will just bring me through the actual job(s)
        
        My actual job is slightly more complex so I after that training I got more training... but the pay and hometime sound reasonable so ok.
        
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    - LloydAsher
      
      1 year ago
      
      No chance to convert if you just kill them
      
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        1 year ago
        
        For every 1 you kill you convert 100 that dont want to die
        
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      - Clunk42
        
        1 year ago
        
        If someone attempts to lead others into evil, who is to say that they shall not try again? Most of the time, it is true that they shall try again, and more souls shall be lost. However, if they are gone from this world before they have the chance, fewer souls shall be lost.
        
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        LloydAsher
        
        1 year ago
        
        Thou shall not kill. I'll let god sort out that judgment. Being led astray isnt an excuse.
        
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- Anonnet
  
  1 year ago
  
  I don't think they should be executed, but I'm glad the opinion that this is wrong is so unanimous here. I consider myself left-leaning, but when they bring up this kind of stuff concerning grade schools (particularly, below high school level), I wonder where they're stashing their brains these days.
  
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  - 1WeirdGuy
    
    1 year ago
    
    Come to the right side. I was considered left leaning too I voted Obama in 2008 but the democrat party has left me. Trump republicans really are not far right at all if anything theyre in the center and are atleast reasonable. Dont confuse them with rhino republicans. Look at who Trump endorses because the oldschool Republicans are awful. They're stuck in bush era politics. The republican party is split. I think you should rethink your position because the left has indeed gone crazy.
    
    If you go back and listen to Obamas speeches in 2008 youll think youre listening to Trump. Trump is not far right at all.
    
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    - Anonnet
      
      1 year ago
      
      The only thing really shoving me away from the right is Trump himself. He's completely unlikable, yet the way he's treated on the right is the same way the left treats Obama. The idol worship during and after Trump's presidency was nothing short of creepy.
      
      That aside, I agree with you. Democrats are all over the place these days. But trying to choose between the radical left and Donald Trump is a really shitty choice to make.
      
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      - 1WeirdGuy
        
        1 year ago
        
        I would never get along with Trump if we were hanging out.
        But Donald Trump atleast has common sense. The problem is both republican and democrats. They sell out the middle class for their elitest friends. For example they stand by even encourage to shipping unionized manufacturing companies overseas to make it more profitable for share holders but those are good middleclass jobs that leave. They are big on this globalism thing but it comes at the cost of the middle class. Also they want to destroy our energy sector due to climate change which only adds to the already high inflation, as you use energy to ship things, and it doesnt even help the climate because we buy it elsewhere and still use it. They wont pump more oil. Oil production is way down since Trump left which increase gas prices.
        Actually Obama said, and you can look this up, that he wants the USA to have gas prices around 8 dollars a gallon.
        
        Who cares if Trump is likable. Atleasts he's a guy that isnt fake like all these other guys who pretend to care amd put on a fake act but ALWAYS do a different thing than they say they will do.
        
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        Anonnet
        
        1 year ago
        
        This isn't a Trump vs Obama thing. I remember the Capitol riot, I don't care how "real" he is nor do I need to hear his version of "common sense." Just replace him with someone else and we're good. He wants to endorse someone, fine, but he needs to stay off the camera.
        
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girlinadarkcorner

1 year ago

I think a lot of LGBT people tend to assume someone is homophobic/transphobic if that person is a conservative. Because it seems a lot more common for right leaning people to be less accepting of others. Even if that's not necessarily the case, a lot of their experiences or stories they've heard can make them believe that.

You don't have to be a liberal or a leftist to support lgbt rights or equality, and any sensible person will be able to see that.

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- LloydAsher
  
  1 year ago
  
  Equality and rights is a key word here. In what way does equality fall under? Equality in marriage or equality in using bathrooms and sharing prisons?
  
  Legally everyone is the same. Socially for the last few thousand years it was male or female (and still is) the problem the LGBT community is that there is theoretically never an end to inequality.
  
  I'm a libertarian that doesnt mean your "rights" supersedes anyone elses.
  
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Cuntsiclestick

1 year ago

You're fine. There are things I like on the conservative side and there are things I like on the liberal side. There's really no need to just pick one just because one side tells you to. The US vs THEM mentality each side has is just stupid. Be you.

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Narwhalbabe

1 year ago

I'm kinda conservative but I treat everyone nicely and don't have anything against gays or trans

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- LloydAsher
  
  1 year ago
  
  Me neither. Except when trans people are acting like they are being repressed like black people during the times of Jim crow.
  
  I dont get why gays and trans work together when often their agendas clash.
  
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    1 year ago
    
    True.
    
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raisinbran

1 year ago

The bigger issue here is using the term "ally," which indicates some level of brainwashing.

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Lusty-Argonian

1 year ago

People get far 2 caught up in politics. I'm conservative as well but I'm also trans. Saying as such in a lgbt environment nets you a ton of harassment. At least online. It's absolute insanity. Like guys theirs more to life then sexuality and gender identity and I don't like what the left is about regarding other aspects of life. Each sides has problems but I feel like most into politics needs to learn to stop taking it so seriously. We aren't politicians after all

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darefu

1 year ago

The key phrase from the op is, I can accept you as you are but reciprocating that would be even better.

This is a big problem, the left or liberals preach it all the time, accept me as I am but they are the biggest offenders of the hate if you don't agree with them.

It's very similar to the black culture. Where because things once we're a certain way you have parents, grandparents, and an entire system that indoctrinate their young, to think they are or will be hated, mistreated, and harmed by the white man, cops and the system. Do not trust it run, or fight it anytime you can.

LGBT xxx are being indoctrinated the same way by their community and the liberals. That is one reason they want and need to start when the children are young. LGBT is not a trait detectable on the outside like color or race. So they feel the need to indoctrinate all children and any one who is open to the LGBT ideas must be taught to think as them.

As a bi female I hear it all the time. As a conservative I see more acceptance from them just don't expect them to say it's good, right, participate, or pay for your ways of living.

What's right for me is most likely not right for too many other people, but what's right for them is not always right for me either. I can deal with that.

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- Anonymous Post Author
  
  1 year ago
  
  I thank you for your comments. Well said and very insightful. I can agree to disagree with people and the way they are but I will not agree to live the same way as others. Imposing on others the equivalent of proselytizing. As history has proven, people whom indoctrinate are potentially dangerous and does not work. After dating a trans woman, I will say I had insight and working with others whom are lesbian, gay or bisexual, I would disagree with people whom call me homophobic, trans-phobic or other buzz words.
  
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Yaidin

1 year ago

You don't have to pick an ideology and stick with it. You can just think for yourself withiut having to pick a side

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- miss_jass06
  
  1 year ago
  
  That's what I think as well.
  
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- LloydAsher
  
  1 year ago
  
  Libertarianism in a nutshell. Dismissing other libertarians is a regular occurence.
  
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idkyourmom27

1 year ago

fuk dem gaze, xept da lessbians. 2 gurls kissen B hawt as fuq. dawg :3

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Orphan

1 year ago

I'm part of the LGBT community and I vote conservative.

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LloydAsher

1 year ago

Tomato go fuck yourself. Lettuce, guacamole and bacon at least have something in common.

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- RoseIsabella
  
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  Hamburger, and cheese.
  
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Meowypowers

1 year ago

I haven't seen a conservative in the USA since before the end of the Obama administration. I've seen a bunch of right wing populism that led to Trump though, and still cringy aftershocks.

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RoyyRogers

1 year ago

They do have the log cabin

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