I was designed for combat.

Im 28 and a U.S. Army Special Forces soldier. I joined the the Army when i was 17 but didn't go Special Forces until i turned 20. I loved to go to combat and kick down doors and all of that other good stuff, but on one of my many tours in 2003 I was ordered to storm a building alone. I did this and was fine with it until i got to the top floor... there was a 14 yr old kid standing there with a gun pointed at me... i shot first and killed the kid... i kind of want to let it go because i was trained for battle and was told that s**t happens and i just cant let it go. Part of me also wishes i wouldnt have shot.so should i feel bad about this or should i just let it go...

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  • jumpingjack

    You know if you fucking Americans stopped trying to rule the world you wouldn't be put into situations where you have to take another life

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    • ilovewar

      Hey man thats what makes the world go round, and plus they attacked us first.

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  • EAS0311

    I'm calling bs on this. I doubt very seriously this guy was ever in the military.

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  • rodhavji

    if youve killed other people who've pointed guns at you then you should realise the problem in your situation. if you hadnt pulled the trigger chances are you wouldve done the deadmans tango as he filled you full of lead.

    should you feel bad for the kid? sure you shot the poor bastard. but should you feel bad for the reasoning behind it? no... why?

    1. it was your job and you were ordered to do so.
    2. if you hadnt done so you would be dead and that kid (poor brainwashed kid i would hazard to say) would've been out there again the next day shooting at allied soldiers.

    you did your duty... and as much as it sucks balls, what can you do man. that being said i dont think hes going to be leaving your dreams for a while. soldier or no soldier. killing changes you.

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    • AntoniusBlock

      All respect, but I think you're oversimplifying this guy's problem a bit... if he just needed reassurance that the kid who aimed at him was going to kill him--or that it was "his duty" to shoot people who aim guns at him or his comrades, he'd be kind of an idiot. And clearly he's NOT--he knows all this stuff, and I suspect it sounds trite and cliched to him.

      The fact is: He killed a 14-year old boy. It's humane of you to try to console him, but your throwing the sort of hackneyed, corny, standard, scripted "consolation" that the military has rehearsed, to tell guys like him, in situations like his--he KILLED A 14-YEAR-OLD BOY. Whose was, himself, probably pushed into that situation, probably only performin HIS OWN duty--to KILL HIM. The fact is, war pits GOOD HUMAN BEINGS, disguised as soldiers, against each other--to kill each other, when, person-to-person, they'd probably have no quarrel.

      I can't imagine what this guy feels like. All my sympathy, and simple apologies for NOT KNOWING WHAT TO SAY. This is SUCH A HUGE DEAL, I simply think there IS nothing we can say... Nothing that wouldn't sound trite and flippant. It's almost an insult to pretend we can solve this problem with cliched words of reassurance, or by pointing out obvious "reasons" for him to have done it--reasons which ARE VALID, but IRRELEVANT to his problem--which is the brute FACT that he KILLED A KID. Christ, I can't imagine how that feels!

      I'm just saying language fails us at crises like this... I think the decent thing to say is simply: I'm sorry. And: I wish there were more I could say, to help. But mere WORDS just aren't cut out for such a big deal as this.

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  • ObsessedWithReedus

    I don't even know what to say. I can't imagine what you're feeling. War flushes humanity down the drain.

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  • voges

    Hey bro, I know it's hard and you churn over it. At the end of the day, your life was threatend by that combatant. If you would've hesitated, he would have pulled the trigger on you !!

    You did the right thing. Don't feel like you've done anything wrong. The Bible permitts self defence. This wont be held against you, it was the moral right thing to do. If I was in your shoes, I'd have done the same thing. I would've double tapped the cunt.

    I know it's hard and that it eats you, but stay strong and be proud. You served your country and did your duty.
    As your motto goes "De Opresso Liber"

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  • overweightdoomsayer

    So freakin what?
    I'm a mutant,yeah just like X-MEN,too....

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  • Starbird7

    However, I don't understand how after doing that, you could still support the US and the war. That kid you killed... He was alone. He wasn't trying to, wasn't going to, attack our country, kill our people or your family. He was probably only trying to stay alive. You were the bad guy to him, you were part of a force that was attacking his country, killing his people and family and friends. Think about it really. What are we really doing to (not for) these innocent people?

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  • Starbird7

    Aaww, that's awful :(. I'm so sorry that happened. I wish we weren't at war. >_<
    the kid was probably just trying to defend himself. But I suppose you were, too. So you were both brave. It must be really hard knowing you killed a kid. Ugh, that's why I hate war and violence! It's basically murder in the name of our country... We're supposed to be "helping", but instead situations like this happen. =(

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  • easymt528

    I don't know where you were at, but most likely it was in a country where young boys are expected to fight as men. While this part is sad, it's not something to blame yourself for. In addition, feeling bad for what happened only makes you human. What you're probably taught when it comes to fighting never touched on the fact that it could be a 14 year old.

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  • wolf23

    first of all fuck the americans. second it was your duty sorry to say everyone deserves to die. being aware of the shit that goes on with bullying theft etc

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  • TieDiedSuperstar

    You know it's a matter of perseverence, you know. Like, what happens if you all get tangled up, you know what I mean. And then it's like... boom CHOW! you know. So it's like, wtf? you might be saying to yourself. And we could be all like... oh, yeah, you know, he really didn't know or anything. But was anyone even listening? Or did anyone even care? So I was like... yeah, you know... as I was thinking to myself about it. But then I just couldn't figure it out, you know? So I said: "Well what the hell do you think you're doin' then?" And he was all like: "Oh well, you know" or whatever. So I was like: "Well, bloody hell." Right? And I was just wondering when it was going to end.

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  • laminator

    Assholes americans are trying to take over the world with sack of money in one hand and if that doesn't work, they have a gun in another hand.
    You will certainly go to hell for that if you believe in it.
    You are just a tool of american imperialism. You americans have corporacies, that are way too powerful and make people suffer every day by economic pressure and bribery of local governments. If only those greedy imperialistic bastards would all die at once, world would be a better place. I'm sayin even chinese capitalistic dictatorship is a bit worse and they deseve to die too so china would prosper in freedom.

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  • You did the right thing, some of these other jackasses just don't understand that when a gun is pointed at you, it's kill or be killed.

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  • ilovewar

    And besides I took extreme precautions before entering,i had all kevlar, plus extra body armor, i dont have a death wish thank you so stop implying that i do.

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  • ilovewar

    And i dont have a platoon dumbass its just my 12 guys and I, so no ive never trained with my platoon before.

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  • ilovewar

    actually my team is composed of sgt and above only, we dont acept anyone who doesnt have hands on training in combat.

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  • kalish88

    Also "ilovewar" u would get more casualties because a fireteam would have to run to u and drag ur ass away while they are taking fire. I'm glad ur not my Lt. Or I would have been NJPd for beating the shit out of an officer.

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  • kalish88

    "ilovewar" U would get shot because most likely u never trained with ur platoon. Officers r never the first to enter a building and they would never go anywhere alone outside the wire. Who would take ur place if u got shwacked? Would u trust a lcpl to take ur place? Prob not. And neither would he. And if u would have been to war u would understand that no one loves it unless ur a psycho. To the main guy, remember it's black and white. Either u die or u eliminate him. If ur having trouble talk to someone who can help. Most of these jokers think they can help but they can't cause most of them don't even have a C.A.R. They don't even know what that is. Rah!!

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  • ilovewar

    Hey id rather storm a building by myself than make one of my men do it with me, less chance of a casualty that way.

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  • t7796

    Was he a towel head?
    thank you for your service!
    *Salute*

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    • ilovewar

      yes he was...sorta... a little underage lol

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  • 24slipking

    seriously what retard orders someone to storm a building alone and who is the bigger retard who actually listens.seriously even elite spec ops use a t least two people for anything

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  • street_sk8ing

    Listing I know how you feel Im 68 now and I was in the green berays and I shot and killed a family just let it go

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    • Jweezee

      Dude your full of shit
      A) no 68 yr old has the user name street skater
      B) no one over the age of 65 knows how to operate these new fangled internets

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      • eastbeast

        C) Berays???????

        68 and you can't spell?

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    • ilovewar

      Thank you for your service.

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  • You had to do what you had to do. It's not really yor fault. You had no choice.

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  • Poor kid, but he must hav had some insannity problem, if he was going to shoot you, it's best you shot him. Thanks for serving our country dude.

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  • thats a sad story thats what being in them sort of jobs are for you kill people possing a threat itts even more sad that the kid was being made to have a gun nd kill but still thts life init but if your still in the same job then its most likly its gonna happen again soo... ya know

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  • tecmessa22

    Yeah what you feel is normal. I guess you need to let yourself mourn this kid...he's going to be with you forever but there's nothing you can do now except make the best of it. Many soldiers I know of go off the rails but many I know of also become really good guys who give a lot back to society. Who knows your experience may save a life or help someone down the line?

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  • Alquen

    In war it's kill or be killed. You had no other choice. Don't blame yourself.

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  • PsychoDJ

    Do me a favor as a combat vet. Dont love war to much because in the end it doesnt truly help anyone.

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    • ilovewar

      Without war i wouldn't have a job.

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  • I agree with the posts acknowledging how badly you must feel bad - we don't need sociopaths in the military - but also that it was not an irresponsible or reckless act, nor one of malice, on your part.

    I honestly do not know how todays armed forces cope with it not even being clear who or where the enemy is.

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  • gabrielvillamayor

    You are in the army? thats cool!

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    • ilovewar

      LOL, Funny

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  • guitaranddrugs

    its not your fault its the people who caused the situations fault.

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  • PsychoDJ

    You and I think the same way.When a civilian ,regardless of age becomes a combatant the normal rules of engagement no longer apply.Think of it like this,If you didnt do what you had to you would have never posted this story.At least you saw your enemy unlike me. I dropped 105MM shells on mine from 10 miles away.Truthfully, after 18 yrs i still have nightmares.I feel your pain. Sincerely,
    Another old combat vet with a concious. 29th L inf, 2-110th FA

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    • ilovewar

      Hey man one soldier to another i would like to thank you for what you've done. Its people like you who inspired me to join.

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      • PsychoDJ

        I am sorry that it took me this long to respond to your post.If you have half a brain which you obviously do beings you are an officer.You know we do what we are ordered to do.When you are in a combat unit a 2nd LT is considered expendable.I Totally dissagree.Just so you dont think I am F.U.B.A.R. My unit was 29th L Inf, 2-110th FA, HHS Bt. F.I.S.T.

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  • rokky

    Man, it is totally normal for you to feel this way, and while it is something that you will unfortunately always carry with you, the feelings will fade and you will learn to block it out.

    One thing that can help is dedicating yourself to helping other young men/women who are going down the wrong path, and by doing so, perhaps save their lives.

    Good luck man

    Rokky

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  • anabolic19

    theres nothing you could of done mate its either you or him and you have to look out for yourself
    the only thing that god will hold against you and all mankind is why are we at war with eachother

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  • Mastersash

    uuuuhh.. the fact that you feel no remorse after killing a CHILD is sick. it's one thing to kill a man in self defense and then to not regret it because you know that you we're only protecting yourself, but even though you killed a kid in self-defense (because he had a gun too, i'll give you that)i'm really hoping that deep down you're only acting like that was "fun" in order to avoid dealing with the guilt of a VERY shitty situation.

    the military trained you to be a mindless, heartless, tool that blocks out all the natural emotions telling you to feel bad about what you did. YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD- any normal person would find it hard to live with themselves after that, but YOU ENJOY being ignorant so much that not only do you lack any knowledge as to why you're truly fighting in this war (believe me, you're the asshole who was tricked into believing they attacked us first so you can volunteer to steal some gold from the middle east), but you are SO deeply programmed within their system that this has become a game for you. you weren't drafted, you just needed to make up for all the lies your mommy told you about being a "special boy," because quite clearly: you're a horrible person.

    *hopefully, when you find your conscious tucked away somewhere along with the balls and the brain they ripped out you, hopefully you'll come to terms with the horrible, pointless life you are living.

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  • chipper123

    Thank you for your service to our country. There was nothing else you could do. A 14 year old kid with a gun is just as dangerous as a 40 year old man with a gun. Look at it this way, when you were 14 could you have been dangerous with a gun? If you had were waiting to ambush an ranger would you have been somewhat dangerous.

    The question I have is this: had ne not had a gun, would you have shot him anyway? From my limited understanding of military you are taught to kill, right? You know who to kill and when. If somebody has a gun pointed at you, whether they be old or young, they are an enemy.

    Thank you for your service. You are a hero.

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    • ilovewar

      When i was 14 i was busy building pipe bombs, so yes i would be just as dangerous.

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      • PsychoDJ

        When i was 14 i made the mistake of firing a 22 semiauto at an army HUEY in a cornfield.Guess what happenned, THEY FIRED BACK. Oops, never did that again.

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