If freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences

then why was everyone so pissed off at Will Smith for slapping Chris Rock? If you believe getting physically violent is a "natural consequence" of saying something, then everyone should be in unanimous agreement that Chris Rock got what he deserved

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  • Holzman_67

    It’s context. Chris rock, not doing a stand up comedy routine, as a comedian with smart alec, sometimes offensive material, but rather just being an Everyman in a bar, saying that, I can accept, although petty and showing signs of insecure male behaviour, getting slapped. But up on stage at the Oscar’s where he’s been hired to tell jokes? That’s why there’s no “got what he deserved” what he deserved, was for people to respect his occupation. They don’t have to laugh, but respect that he’s doing his job.

    All humour is critical. I think people need to get that and stop having such fragile egos! Grow some humility!

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    • Who gets to determine what's out of line though? It's purely arbitrary. You can apply whatever mental gymnastics you want to justify it any situation, but that's just an open admission that you're a hypocrite who thinks rules should apply only some of the time or to certain people

      Either violence is ALWAYS justified or it's NEVER justified as a response to words. You can't have it both ways

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  • PurpleHoneycomb

    I've never really seen "freedom from consequences" being used as a way to justify violence. Most that use that line of dialogue are simply meaning "You can get banned for breaking TOS." I find this to be a perfectly reasonable sentiment. I would expect this to be upheld on all social media platforms; including Musk's Twitter and Truth Social.

    I don't doubt that some people are calling for violence, however. There are loads of crazy people out there on either side of the aisle that don't realize how hypocritical they are being.

    Side note, I find it funny that people are complaining about Elon Musk banning people. He's just doing what the previous heads of the company did: show bias. It's impossible to be completely impartial without letting it become the wild west for political extremism. (Which is bad.)

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  • RoseIsabella

    Precisely!

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  • RoseIsabella

    Fuck that cuck Will Smith, and his bald wife! I will always side with Chris Rock!

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  • LloydAsher

    Sounds a lot like inquiring her on what she was wearing.

    One action cannot be used to justify the later action, even though there's causality.

    Humans are not animals; You should be above dolling out punishment because someone moved their mouth in a way that you didnt like. Being insulted verbally does not give you a green light to do violence to them, even in a non physical way. Such as getting them fired, which for many people is way worse.

    Even though it's incorrect as the founding fathers interpretation the modern interpretation of freedom of speech is still a worthy ideal to work towards.

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  • Tinybird

    I think freedom of speech should mean freedom from consequences. He could have just said something back to him instead of resorting to violence. Violence is never the answer. And btw we don't have free speech. I can't even say my most basic of things, such as who I have a crush on, without jumping through hoops and hinting.

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    • whatthemonkey

      well too bad tinybird that's not how the world works. and also you sound 15 because you can say whatever you want about your crush you're just afraid to

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      • Tinybird

        I can? Well then how come iin always shadowbans my posts about my crush then??? If I can say what I want about him???

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