Is it normal christians stole pagan traditions and thinks they're original

Everything that christians celebrate is pagan in nature yet many christians think paganism is bad LOL. Christmas for example is just yule with a few slight changeups and a new backstory. Halloween is a changeup of samhain and midsummer which we celebrate in scandinavia (mostly just an excuse for people to get drunk) is litha. Easter is a changeup of ostara.. So if christianity is real why doesn't it have its own traditions? Pretty unnecessary that it's even a thing then. Just saying.

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  • donteatstuffoffthesidewalk

    every holiday is an excuse to get drunk

    except new years & st pats day i stay sober and leave em to the amateurs

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    • Yes for boring people who cant think of other things to do

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      • donteatstuffoffthesidewalk

        nah i do all kindsa excitin shit when im drunk

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  • Somenormie

    Everything is unoriginal.

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    • RoseIsabella

      *thinks about Ancient Sumerians*

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    • LloydAsher

      I mean is that such a bad thing? The winners take everything even the best traditions.

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  • Pilum

    Merged with paganism a millenia or more ago in northern Europe. Easter is part fertility holiday (eggs / rabbits). Santa Claus tradition possibly descended from Northern Europeans using amanita muscaria mushrooms

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  • Meatballsandwich

    Christianity is unoriginal. Even many of the stories in the old and new testament are copied from other stories.

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  • bigbudchonga

    Christmas is Saturnalia not yule. The Christians did it for integration purposes. No it's not really when Jesus was born, but there's a massive pagan holiday that happens this time of year so lets integrate it into Christianity instead of opressing the native festivals. It's not a bad idea.

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  • ChrissySnow

    Original or not I love my Christian holidays and love how they make me feel

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    • Thing is these holidays would've existed even if christianity never became a thing just on slightly different days like the pagan yule is today and christian christmas is in 2 days. Same type of celebration pretty much, just that christians make it about Jesus.

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  • BlueAlice

    I don't know how to answer this. It's normal in that this is our current "normal" reality, but it's not normal in as much as it's fucked up to destroy cultures that aren't your own. Religious white superiority is icky

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    • Clunk42

      They didn't destroy any cultures in the creation of the holidays. The whole point was to make the pagans feel more comofrtable converting to Christianity by being able to keep similar celebrations to the ones they already had. If anything, it's the exact opposite of destroying a culture. It's a culture to live on in a different religion.

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  • Clunk42

    Why does it matter on which day we celebrate things or how? What matters is that we do celebrate them. Christmas is a celebration of the day on which Jesus was born. Whether it actually takes place on the day in which Jesus was born is irrelevant. Halloween is not a Christian holiday. All Hallow's Day (the day after Halloween) is a Christian holiday. Halloween is a holiday that the Christians allowed the pagans to continue celebrating after conversion. Easter is a symbolic celebration of the day on which Jesus rose from the dead. Just like with Christmas, the exact date and way it is celebrated are unimportant. What matters is that we do celebrate them. The traditions are the way they are because many ancient Christians were pagans converted to the religion, and the church had no special holidays. So, in order to make the pagans more likely to convert, they used some of the things they wanted to celebrate and made celebrations for them based off of the pagan holidays.

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    • litelander8

      I’m not even going to bother reading this trash.

      HISTORY IS HISTORY.

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      • Clunk42

        If you had read it, you would know that I did explain the history as to why the holidays are so similar.

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    • S0UNDS_WEIRD

      I don't know, man. YHWH will pretty much kill you as soon as look at you for doing just about anything, including harmless things and even things he designed you to do. Doesn't really seem like the type of dude to be reasonable about getting his kid's birthday wrong.

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      • Clunk42

        No sin is harmless. Sex is designed for reproduction among a man and woman married to eachother, not the crap that you're referring to. We don't pretend it's his birthday. It's merely a celebration of his birthday, the date of which was lost to history.

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        • S0UNDS_WEIRD

          Okay so you say it was designed for reproduction. Great. That doesn't make other forms harmful.

          Coins are designed for spending. I'm not hurting anyone if I use one as a guitar pick.

          The argument someone getting a blowjob from a consenting partner is hurting someone is completely fucking ridiculous and deep down inside (maybe not even that deep) you know that too but you have no choice but to perform mental gymnastics to try to see some way it is, because you have to.

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          • Clunk42

            Yes it does. To purposefully kill sperm is to prevent them from having the ability to reproduce, thus wasting them and preventing the existence of a possible human. It is not any more sinful to use a coin as a guitar pick than it is to spend it on yourself. It's no mental gymnastics; it's quite simple.

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            • S0UNDS_WEIRD

              You don't masturbate then? God's watching you masturbate.

              I think he masturbates to that though so it's all good. Well either that or sending you to Hell.

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  • Every time the Christians took over a new land they adopted the customs of the local people

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    • yuccatheplant

      Yeah, we are basically celebrating still the same thing, it is just named differently.
      It is quite awesome seeing how holidays are different in different countries all over Europe.
      Austrians have different St. Nicolas than Czechs, Polish, or Scandinavians.

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    • Ellenna

      Not always: here in Australia they did their best to wipe out the culture of First Nation peoples, same in the USA, Canada and South American countries.

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    • S0UNDS_WEIRD

      Eh... did they really though? Do they really though?

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  • momgetthecamera

    They're Christian celebrations on the same or similar days as old pagan festivals from what I have heard. Some of this was to create unity between the peoples of different beliefs, and this happened in Ancient Rome. We still celebrated old spring/fertility days and went to Church to sing.

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  • JellyBeanBandit

    Well I wouldn't use the word 'stole'. Everyone incorporates the traditions around them into their daily life, and more ancient traditions may have just naturally became part of Christianity. I agree though that Christians shouldn't be intolerant of pagan beliefs. They are showing their ignorance of their own Christian holidays and roots when they do that.

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  • Inkmaster

    I disagree with the premise.

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  • Ellenna

    Well HAPPY SUMMER SOLSTICE from Australia, where xmas celebrations are still celebrated with fake snow and other northern hemisphere symbols of midwinter solstice. And of course, far too much greed and waste.

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